I have been working for nearly a month now modding skyrim and have had success with everything besides ENB. Approaching nearly 250 mods now I was having more and more stability problems and decided to look up some stability guides. After numerous attempts to get RealVision ENB working with no avail, I finally gave up on ENB altogether. According to the stability guide however, I needed ENBoost even without an ENB preset to limit CTD's. I had the same problem as I did when trying to install the preset--CTD before the Bethesda title screen. I have no idea why this is still happening. I followed the Skyrim Stability Install, tried the STEP install and got the same crash.
I have read through the entire FAQ's section, forum posts, contacted Skyrim Tuner, and worked with GamerPoets on YouTube, none of which could solve the problem. Hopefully that is of some help as well. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Correspondence with GamerPoets on Youtube:
This is refering to RealVision ENB installation problems with the same crash but I figured they could be of some use as well.
After I launch SKSE, I just get a small Skyrim window and then it just crashes before even getting to the Bethesda screen like you would a load order CTD. Any ideas?
+Zackary Nicholson Are you using the RealVision installer like in the video? If so, go into your ENBLocal.ini. there is an occasional (with me all the time) "error" of sorts that changes the line "videomemorysizemb" to a number to high for the system. Make sure that the value is only the amount of Vram that you have for one graphics card... if not change it... Say you have 2 gigs... it should be 2048... also, the line "expandsystemmemoryx64=true" ... try setting it to false... this helps some people.
Thanks for the quick reply. I tried all combinations of that. I have 4 gb of vram and therefore set it to 4096 but I checked in dxdiag and it showed that I had only 4095. I tried both values with no avail. I also used some formula to calculate it on the nexus page (RAM + VRAM - 2048 ) but that didn't work either. This is all with ModOrganizer btw.
+Zackary Nicholson You definitely know what you're doing. RealVision doesn't have any way for mod conflicts either without an esp. Did you make sure to use the most recently mentioned enb series from the enb dev page? The one in this video is now out dated for RealVision. Now sure what the newest one is but its on the downloads section on his page im sure. I dont like that forumla. It widely used but I think its crap lol just my opinion, I know it probably works for everyone reading this comment but I dont like it. You can always set your Vram even lower.. make sure the reserved memory in the enblocal.ini is set to 512 since you are using skse. That's the same ( i believe) setting that shesons memory patch sets the memory blocks too. Maybe that will help? I've never have it just crash... is this the first ENB you are installing in your current setup? you also need direct x runtime for the enb to launch right. it will crash right when you launch the game without it. -Michael
+GamerPoets Yup I have the corresponding enb binaries referenced on the enb page. I set my vram even lower (2048) and made sure the reserved memory was set to 512. I tried the memory patch. By the directx runtime do you just mean dx11 or end-user runtime. Regardless I have both. All of this and I still have the same result. This is the first enb install I have ever done. At this point I am just gonna try a clean install of Skyrim and trying going from there and see what happens.
After a clean install of skyrim, I got the game to boot. However ENB does not seem to be working even though it is checked in Mod Organizer. I do not have there version displayed in the top left and can't load the GUI.
+Zackary Nicholson Do you mean in game when you push shift+enter that screen doesn't come up? ... well wait... I miss read piece I think.... if the version isn't displayed in the top left that means you don't have the actual enb series files in your skyrim folder... even if things are not installed properly you will see that message at the top left with the files in your skyrim folder... Check the realvision page (if this is the enb you are using) and check to see what version that latest release of Real Vision needs. You need the d3d9.dll and the enblauncher in your skyrim folder or it wont work. -Michael
+Zackary Nicholson since this video I believe skyrimtuner removed his personal enb series archive and you will need to go to the actual enb dev.com page... check out the vividian enb tutorial on my page if you don't know what I mean.. ignore everything except the enbseries section. -Michael
+Zackary Nicholson Just to confirm, you do adjust the ini files in the Skyrim folder after running the installer right? Not in the mod organizer mod folder... The installer should move all required files into your Skyrim folder. However, I notice from that screen that you run a torrented version of Skyrim. Regardless or not if you paid for a Skyrim copy (I'm assuming you did), pirated versions are not always up to date, and may be the reason it is not working proper (did the installer work proper?). ENB needs to hack into TESV.exe, by lack of better explanation. Make sure it is fully up to date to the latest version. In Enblocal.ini in your Skyrim folder, make sure you have expandsystemmemoryx64=false. Also, make sure you install SKSE and sheson's memory patch. Michael has a tutorial for that as well. I hope you can fix it. -Joe
+GamerPoets Yes I do own a copy of Skyrim for PS3 I just wanted to try out modding it on PC. I ran the RealVision ini autoinstaller which asked me to select the skyrimprefs.ini in the ModOrganizer profiles folder. I believe ModOrganizer overwrites the skyrimprefs.ini with the one configured in my profile do I need to directly change it within my Skyrim folder or will the ModOrganizer profile work as well? I did try the sheson's patch already and set expandsystemmemoryx64 to false. I am booting with SKSE but will look into the tutorial. I'm guessing it's probably a version problem. Where would I find the version (in game) of Skyrim that is compatible with ENB?
+GamerPoets I am currently running 1.9.32.0.8. I am pretty sure this is the latest version. Could the pirated copy be the problem even if the version is right? I don't know exactly how cracking it works but maybe the cracked TESV.exe is the problem?
+GamerPoets Alright good to know I haven't had any problems with it so far. It was just a test run. Guess I'm waiting for a steam sale then. Thanks for all your help regardless. I don't know many channels that would go that far out of their way to help a fellow modder. I'll let my friends know about your channel!
Not a problem man. =) Happy to help. Yeah, anything with an additional compents (tes5edit, wryebash, enb's, blah blah blah lol) wont work usually. If they do the work around may not be worth the trouble. We do our best to help everyone. We like to think of GamerPoets as a community more than it is a simple channel. Don't go telling people you have pirated stuff, they will block you lol. I know nothing... -Michael
Well at least we are starting somewhere = ) ... So you have steam installed then? and you have skyrim installed to the steam folder? yes? ... you need to download and install direct x runtime. Then, make sure you use whatever the latest enbseries is on the real vision page (it wont be the same as the video, it upgrades all the time). Then you have to make sure the d3d9.dll and the enblauncher from that enbs series archive from the enb dev website is in the skyrim folder itself... right click the skyrim folder, make sure all security is set to allow full control. Go intro you enblocal.ini file in the skyrim folder after its installed and manually tune back the vram setting.. i bet you it is set at some crazy high number because the installer... make sure expandsystemmemory64 or whatever it is, is set to false. Make sure you check mark the realvision mod stuff in mod organizer or nexus mod manager, whatever you use. -Michael
I just noticed that I didn't have a skse.ini, so I added one to mod organizer under my skse plugins mod with the configured values on the realvision page with no luck as well.
With everything mentioned above, the game just shouldn't crash lol.. i laugh only because its baffling. What's the FXAA injector that you installed? Did the game work 100% before installing the ENB? And did you make sure to take the enbseries stuff from the wrapper version and not the injector version? If so man I would contact skyrim tuner directly. There's really nothing else to it if you did all that stuff. You can also point him to the video and the comment here so he can check it out or if anyone helping maintain the mod would care to check it out. I'm a bit lost here. -Michael
+GamerPoets Yes I made sure to run the realvision uninstaller and and went back into my skyrim folder to delete the enb files and the d3d9.dll + the enbhost.exe from the enb website. I ran the game through ModOrganizer after the uninstallation and made sure it was working again. I then tried to install the FXAA injector to see if that would work, as I read it was an alternative but that failed as well. I mentioned it because I figured they used some similar tools that might give you some insights to the root of the problem. Yes the enb files were from the Wrapper Version folder. Ya I was lost too as I am not completely retarded when it comes to computers and followed the instructions step by step numerous times with no luck. I contacted SkyrimTuner via the Nexus Forums. If there is a better way to get in touch with him please let me know.
Nexus is the way to go. If you haven't heard back from him I would say next best bit (you will unfortunately have to tell them everything all over again... i would highly suggest not mentioning anything about previously having a game that wasn't purchased lol especially since you have one now and I dont want anyone to overlook the question because of it)... post it in the STEP forums. More than half of what I know has come from those guys. And they have a full out team dedicated to nothing but answering questions. -Michael
It seems like you are doing everything right man. If you do get answers I'd be happy to hear what caused it. I can't imagine its something major. It has to be something unbelievably tiny that I can't think of and that you may have overlooked.. -Michael
+GamerPoets Ya I will try the STEP forums if I don't hear back from him. Thanks again for all the help regardless. I'll be sure to let you know if I ever figure out the issue.
Not a problem. You seem to know more about what to do right then most people who have asked help who I actually helped resolve things. It's truly freakin baffling me lol. You know your stuff. Don't feel at all that you don't. I guarantee its something stupid. -Michael
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>>System Specs:
https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Lt_Ballzacki/SystemSpecs
>>Screencap of Crash:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzyKw-wGwnDvR2VhSklOUnY2ME0/view?usp=sharing
>>Problem:
I have been working for nearly a month now modding skyrim and have had success with everything besides ENB. Approaching nearly 250 mods now I was having more and more stability problems and decided to look up some stability guides. After numerous attempts to get RealVision ENB working with no avail, I finally gave up on ENB altogether. According to the stability guide however, I needed ENBoost even without an ENB preset to limit CTD's. I had the same problem as I did when trying to install the preset--CTD before the Bethesda title screen. I have no idea why this is still happening. I followed the Skyrim Stability Install, tried the STEP install and got the same crash.
I have read through the entire FAQ's section, forum posts, contacted Skyrim Tuner, and worked with GamerPoets on YouTube, none of which could solve the problem. Hopefully that is of some help as well. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Correspondence with GamerPoets on Youtube:
This is refering to RealVision ENB installation problems with the same crash but I figured they could be of some use as well.
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