"Potential Mod order problem" <- Is this feature bugged?

[Halde]

Hi all!

 

So I've basically gotten this warning after every single STEP installation I have ever done, and it has almost always been the same mods in question. 

 

[spoiler=Problem Report]
Move Cutting Room Floor after RaceCompatibility with fixes
Move Even Better Quest Objectives after Cutting Room Floor
Move Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf after Even Better Quest Objectives
Move Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps after Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf
Move When Vampires Attack after Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps
Move Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade after When Vampires Attack
Move Civil War Overhaul after Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
Move Non-Essential Children after Civil War Overhaul
Move The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options after Non-Essential Children
Move Dragon Combat Overhaul after The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options
Move The Paarthurnax Dilemma after Dragon Combat Overhaul
Move Alternate Start - Live Another Life after The Paarthurnax Dilemma
Move aMidianBorn Book of Silence after aMidianBorn Book of Silence Content Addon

 

 

Now the aMidianBorn is new. Since the aMidianBorn Content Addon is only added in 2.2.9, I assume this is the reason.

Some of these mods are not STEP mods, but mods I fancy, and are using.

 

 

This is a picture of almost all the mods in question. While I haven't actually checked all of them to see if they all match, it's beside the point. Because a lot of them match. The fact that this warning states that I need to move mods, after mods, that they are already placed after, leads me to believe that feature is completly bugged, or that it just doesn't recognize the fact the mods are moved accordingly. 

 

The reason I am not using the "Fix" feature, is, that the last time I did that, it completly changed my installation order of a lot of mods. For instance, it moved my Unofficial Dragonborn Patch as one of the last mods in the installation order.

 

Can I disable this feature, or do I just have to ignore it as best I can?

 

~Sincerely

 

Halde

 

[Tannin]

Neither, you should do what it says.

Look. if your order is

 

A

B

C

 

And it suggests to

"move A after C"

and

"move B after A"

 

IN THAT ORDER, that does make sense, no?

 

To my knowledge that tool works fine except for a few cases where it will suggest moving an update before the base mod when the base mod contains mulitple esps and the update doesn't replace them all.

 

Placing unofficial patches late in the installation order isn't a problem as long as the script-conflicting mods are correclty sorted. the PMOP suggestion cares only for that, not for anything else.

[phazer11]

The way STEP is setup you should ignore the Potential Mod Order message.

[redirishlord]

Since MO is a powerful tool, you can do some proactive troubleshooting as well, use the information windows conflicts tab to look for script conflicts. I find Amazing Follower Tweaks doesn't work as desired when it's scripts are overwritten, so I make sure to place it after TES Arena Frontier Fortress for example, similar with mods that fight over the mining script. MO may still fire off the warning, but afterwards I place my problematic mods back to non-conflicting locations in the order and the warnings settle out. I'm thinking that's to be expected when we force scripts that weren't intended to work with each other into the same game session.

[Halde]

But why is it, that the warnings remain(treating every single line as a single warning), when the mods have been moved according to what it says?

 

For instance:

Move The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options after Non-Essential Children
Move Dragon Combat Overhaul after The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options
Move The Paarthurnax Dilemma after Dragon Combat Overhaul
Move Alternate Start - Live Another Life after The Paarthurnax Dilemma

 

All of these are sorted as stated, yet they remain in the warning.

[EssArrBee]

It detects warnings in groups so it might have circular detection because a group of mods has a certain conflict, so all of them are added to the PMOP. You need to install in the order we listed and you will not have problems. 

[Halde]

Ah. That makes sense. Because I just moved Civil War Overhaul before Non-Essential Children and boom, most of these except the aMidianborn was gone. But out of nowhere, a dusin new ones appeared involving a need to place A LOT of mods before Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade. But since this mods seems to have quite a lot of possible conflicts, I don't think I'm gonna move around on it.

[rbtroj]

Bummer ... I just finished re-ordering them like MO told me to. What is the order they should be in?

 

Below is what MO told me to do:

 

"The following changes should prevent these kinds of errors:

Move Traps Make Noise after Even Better Quest Objectives

Move Thieves Guild Requirements after Traps Make Noise

Move Non-Essential Children - Hearthfire after Thieves Guild Requirements

Move The Choice is Yours after Non-Essential Children - Hearthfire

Move When Vampires Attack after The Choice is Yours

Move Complete Crafting Overhaul after When Vampires Attack

Move The Paarthurnax Dilemma after Complete Crafting Overhaul

Move The Choice is Yours - Dawnguard after The Paarthurnax Dilemma"

 

But I cannot back out of this because I don't remember where these mods were before moving them. Is my only hope to walk through the STEP list again? Is the order in the guide the same as in MO after you've run all the LOOT and BASH and patchers and everything?

 

Thanks for any help.

[DoubleYou]

The order of the guide is the order.

[rbtroj]

The order of the guide is the order.

Thanks, 2xU :)