sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 1:10 PM, Ylikollikas said: Alright this WIN.BTO causes a freeze consistently in a specific spot. If I remove the BTO, the freezes stop. There are many other spots as well that had a freezes, but for purposes of this half-half testing I tested with one specific spot to get consistent results. The spot is near sleeping tree camp. Regardless, after removing this file I wasn't able to find any spot with freezes no matter how much I ran around so I suspect this was only this BTO file causing it. Tamriel.4.-28.-12.WIN.bto Screenshot of the spot in-game Spot in the map Expand Also upload the default non winter BTO for the same level/coordinates. Since there are no issue for no season it will be easier to spot what is different.
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 1:45 PM, Ylikollikas said: Alright, Tamriel.4.-28.-12.bto Expand Based on that I made 3 variants out of the *WIN.BTO. https://mega.nz/file/lMZEgSKB#JI3JT9UvcxBSnJJpbCicdgo8v6Z9d_TgPj4qJ-E1Yic Test each one by renaming them to the correct filename Tamriel.4.-28.-12.WIN.bto and let me know about how each affects the issue.
Onyxeagle171 Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 Hi all, apologies if I've made a mistake in my post, this is my first time on the forum. When running what should be DynDOLOD's final generation step, the LODs themselves, I receive an error at the very last step of processing, one that I couldn't find elsewhere on google - [Window Title] DynDOLOD [Main Instruction] Error: Adding DynDOLOD.esp as master to DynDOLOD.esm not possible. I have uninstalled and reinstalled all DynDOLOD related files as well as the installer only to get the same error. I am on the latest version of DynDOLOD with all runtimes and dependencies installed (resources SE + papyrus DLLs). There was no crash or error report generated that I could find, just standalone world logs and the TexGen ones. Does anyone have an idea on what could be causing this? Help would be much appreciated.
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 2:31 PM, Ylikollikas said: All 3 variants caused the freeze. Expand Test this 4th version https://mega.nz/file/xQx2jaRB#MKm0dvlHjKYfXSzHNfYC6tLgaz4oTJ-4p0KXcQXhGIg
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 2:34 PM, Onyxeagle171 said: Hi all, apologies if I've made a mistake in my post, this is my first time on the forum. When running what should be DynDOLOD's final generation step, the LODs themselves, I receive an error at the very last step of processing, one that I couldn't find elsewhere on google - [Window Title] DynDOLOD [Main Instruction] Error: Adding DynDOLOD.esp as master to DynDOLOD.esm not possible. I have uninstalled and reinstalled all DynDOLOD related files as well as the installer only to get the same error. I am on the latest version of DynDOLOD with all runtimes and dependencies installed (resources SE + papyrus DLLs). There was no crash or error report generated that I could find, just standalone world logs and the TexGen ones. Does anyone have an idea on what could be causing this? Help would be much appreciated. Expand Moved to the DynDOLOD 3 Alpha thread. Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log, debug log and bugreport.txt (if it exists) to upload when making posts.
Ylikollikas Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 4th version did not cause freeze. Was something discovered that I should account for or fix in my next DynDOLOD run?
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:24 PM, Ylikollikas said: 4th version did not cause freeze. Was something discovered that I should account for or fix in my next DynDOLOD run? Expand Some 3D tree LOD models only used for winter set a wrong shader flag like "Cloud LOD". They also seem to miss the flags ZBufferWrite and maybe DoubleSided in case of crowns/leaves. Since they have "passthru" in the filename and/or shape names, the shaders are used as is and not normalized. You can check and change this with NifSkope. If you need help identifying them, let me know.
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Mousetick said: https://dyndolod.info/Help/Child-Parent-Worldspace-Copies addresses references with object LOD, but doesn't mention dynamic LOD. So I'm assuming they're not supported. I'd appreciate it if you could clarify this point and hint at whether this is something you might try to address in the future. Expand So far Parent > Child only copies references that have object LOD only. Here is a test version that also copies references that have dynamic LOD https://mega.nz/file/gNJhlIpC#wYtntkA4Nw6hp9IBFv5tgF_L4ASrjmHDyptzeoS6qhE Test for side effects in all 5 cities. On 9/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Mousetick said: View from Tamriel balcony | Harbor with Icerunner | LODs off Expand Those 2 screenshots should show more informative console. I assume this shows the full model xx0000C3A. On 9/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Mousetick said: View from Solitude balcony | Harbor with missing Icerunner | LODs off Expand We typically expect LOD to be turned off when the cells that references are placed into are attached. If you move backwards a cell, you should see the dynamic LOD for the ship. On 9/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Mousetick said: * By the way, do you know why the console shows the original ship [REFR:2E000C3A] is defined by DynDOLOD.esm? It's actually defined by SaveTheIcerunner.esp: ??? Expand The base record is defined by the last overwrite for the reference, so base defined shows DynDOLOD.esm. The base record itself is not overwritten, so base last changed is also DynDOLOD.esm. For the why, see https://dyndolod.info/DynDOLOD-Reference#17-Convert-enabled-references On 9/4/2023 at 10:33 AM, Mousetick said: It's set to zero in DynDOLOD_SSE_childworld_SolitudeWorld.ini: ; set to 1 to not enable dynamic LOD in this child worldspace NoDynamicLOD=0 So maybe there's a bug, or I'm not understanding what the effect of this setting is supposed to be. Expand NoDynamicLOD=0 is what you normally want in order to see dynamic LOD when inside the child worldspace. NoDynamicLOD=1 disables dynamic LOD when inside the child worldspace.
Ylikollikas Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:31 PM, sheson said: You can check and change this with NifSkope. If you need help identifying them, let me know. Expand That would be appreciated! I was able to find some from going through all the winter 3D lod models that I was able to find, but I don't know if I missed any. I fixed the flags in following models: Reveal hidden contents - pinus01_53acddabpassthru_lod.nif - pinus03_2051fbc5passthru_lod.nif - pinus05_a5dcd7d9passthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall01_b576ef43passthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall03_d1ff661epassthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall05_027cff8dpassthru_lod.nif
Mousetick Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 3:38 PM, sheson said: Those 2 screenshots should show more informative console. I assume this shows the full model xx0000C3A. Expand Yes. Sorry forgot to include screenshot: On 9/4/2023 at 3:38 PM, sheson said: We typically expect LOD to be turned off when the cells that references are placed into are attached. If you move backwards a cell, you should see the dynamic LOD for the ship. Expand Indeed: On 9/4/2023 at 3:38 PM, sheson said: The base record is defined by the last overwrite for the reference, so base defined shows DynDOLOD.esm. The base record itself is not overwritten, so base last changed is also DynDOLOD.esm. For the why, see https://dyndolod.info/DynDOLOD-Reference#17-Convert-enabled-references Expand Yes, that is not questioned. Sorry if I wasn't clear - I wasn't talking about the base record, I was talking about the reference itself, which is defined in SaveTheIceRunner.esp, not in DynDOLOD.esm: On 9/4/2023 at 3:38 PM, sheson said: Here is a test version that also copies references that have dynamic LOD https://mega.nz/file/JVI2kKpQ#LFeiWGH74lL12ZljiPVctCLej_LH2_2UW3b8LSZG5m4 Test for side effects in all 5 cities. Expand Ok, I'll give it a try. This will take a while... Thanks.
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 4:47 PM, Mousetick said: Yes. Sorry forgot to include screenshot: Indeed: Yes, that is not questioned. Sorry if I wasn't clear - I wasn't talking about the base record, I was talking about the reference itself, which is defined in SaveTheIceRunner.esp, not in DynDOLOD.esm: Ok, I'll give it a try. This will take a while... Thanks. Expand Did you actually flag the plugin as master? Not sure why mfg sees what it seems. it probably has to do with how a master plugins overwrites other master plugins, which is different than non master.
sheson Posted September 4, 2023 Author Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/4/2023 at 4:03 PM, Ylikollikas said: That would be appreciated! I was able to find some from going through all the winter 3D lod models that I was able to find, but I don't know if I missed any. I fixed the flags in following models: Reveal hidden contents - pinus01_53acddabpassthru_lod.nif - pinus03_2051fbc5passthru_lod.nif - pinus05_a5dcd7d9passthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall01_b576ef43passthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall03_d1ff661epassthru_lod.nif - pinus_tall05_027cff8dpassthru_lod.nif Expand Can you link to the mod on Nexus these files are from?
CyborgArmGUn Posted September 4, 2023 Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) Ran to completion too, all good here. Edited October 11, 2023 by CyborgArmGUn
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