DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 190

[sheson]

  On 1/23/2025 at 1:31 PM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

Hi,

I have this issue with Giant Campfires only, was not sure if it was embers XD, but without Dyndolod enabled, everything works fine, the campfire, flames and all. Without Dyndolod enabled, the campfires are fine.
With Dyndolod however, you get only the Logs, no flames or particles

At this point, if I save and reload the save, the entire campfire is gone:

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Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug upload when making posts.

The campfire not having fires typically happens because there are too many full models with particles being loaded or the particle INI setting is to low.
Refer to this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20141-dyndolod-300-alpha-182/page/643/#findComment-280264 and discussion around it.

[aLEXgrte]

Hello, I've been having this problem for a while but the last time I circumvented it by just checking for errors using XEdit. It seems to be a problem with complete crafting overhaul, but I'm not sure exactly what. The first time there were a few errors, but after removing them and tinkering a bit, it worked. Not sure what happened this time though (I was regenerating the lod bit when it happened, the tex gen was always ok and without errors).

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[sheson]

  On 1/23/2025 at 5:23 PM, aLEXgrte said:

Hello, I've been having this problem for a while but the last time I circumvented it by just checking for errors using XEdit. It seems to be a problem with complete crafting overhaul, but I'm not sure exactly what. The first time there were a few errors, but after removing them and tinkering a bit, it worked. Not sure what happened this time though (I was regenerating the lod bit when it happened, the tex gen was always ok and without errors).

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Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which entire DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

Click the link Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message as explained in https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Read-Log-and-Error-Messages to open https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Exceptions and then scroll down to https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Exceptions#Range-check-error.

On a hunch, see this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20141-dyndolod-300-alpha-182/page/676/#findComment-283035
The mods scripts might be overwritten.

[aLEXgrte]

I tried tweaking the order but it still crashes. I actually added some extra info this time, hope it helps

https://paste.ee/p/3fFm3IHN

Checked for errors, all of a sudden it wokrs.

 

[Commercial_Aside_149]

  On 1/23/2025 at 5:39 PM, sheson said:

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which entire DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

Click the link Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message as explained in https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Read-Log-and-Error-Messages to open https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Exceptions and then scroll down to https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Exceptions#Range-check-error.

On a hunch, see this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20141-dyndolod-300-alpha-182/page/676/#findComment-283035
The mods scripts might be overwritten.

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Thank you. Checking the helpful link you provided, I tried without Mists of Tamriel. Here are steps I followed:
Disabled Dyndolod, in game waited for message and went into Bannered Mare
Waited sometime and made a save, QTD
Removed Dyndolod, texgen, SSELoDGen. Reloaded the game, waited for sometime, checked that Dyndolod is no longer showing in the MCM and then made a save
Disabled all of Mists of Tamriel features, made a new save, QTD. Removed Mists of Tam., loaded the game, waited sometime and when Mists of Tam does not show in MCM, made a save, QTD.
Ran XLodGen, followed by TexGen, then Dyndolod, enabled all and reloaded the game. Waited sometime and went out and the Giant fire is there, flames and all. Saved and reloaded and the entire things is gone again, no logs, no flames, nothing.
iMaxDesired is already 10000 on my config.
Tried a brand new game, with dyndolod enabled (no mists of tam.): Fire visible, save and reload, it disappears again

The log files sizes are large, hence sharing through the link below:
https://ufile.io/f/84a56

Issue is only with Giant fires, could it be something to do with Embers XD? Thank you in advance for the help

[sheson]

  On 1/23/2025 at 6:03 PM, aLEXgrte said:

I tried tweaking the order but it still crashes. I actually added some extra info this time, hope it helps

https://paste.ee/p/3fFm3IHN

Checked for errors, all of a sudden it wokrs.

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The link only contains the bugreport.txt. The requested DynDOLOD log and debug were not provided.

[sheson]

  On 1/24/2025 at 4:59 AM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

Thank you. Checking the helpful link you provided, I tried without Mists of Tamriel. Here are steps I followed:
Disabled Dyndolod, in game waited for message and went into Bannered Mare
Waited sometime and made a save, QTD
Removed Dyndolod, texgen, SSELoDGen. Reloaded the game, waited for sometime, checked that Dyndolod is no longer showing in the MCM and then made a save
Disabled all of Mists of Tamriel features, made a new save, QTD. Removed Mists of Tam., loaded the game, waited sometime and when Mists of Tam does not show in MCM, made a save, QTD.
Ran XLodGen, followed by TexGen, then Dyndolod, enabled all and reloaded the game. Waited sometime and went out and the Giant fire is there, flames and all. Saved and reloaded and the entire things is gone again, no logs, no flames, nothing.
iMaxDesired is already 10000 on my config.
Tried a brand new game, with dyndolod enabled (no mists of tam.): Fire visible, save and reload, it disappears again

The log files sizes are large, hence sharing through the link below:
https://ufile.io/f/84a56

Issue is only with Giant fires, could it be something to do with Embers XD? Thank you in advance for the help

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Generating terrain LOD with xLODGen is not going to have an affect on this.

What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from?

If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as the when the logs and fire show?

Test if changing the mesh mask rule for "giantcampfire01" from Grid: FarFull to FarLOD and Reference: Replace to Unchanged makes a difference.

[Commercial_Aside_149]

  On 1/24/2025 at 7:28 AM, sheson said:

The link only contains the bugreport.txt. The requested DynDOLOD log and debug were not provided.

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Sorry about that. I have the DyndoLOD SSE Log as attached, the Debug is 400+MB, so have to upload. in the link https://ufile.io/f/84a56 I do see all the files attached though. Let me try again this time just with the debug log
https://ufile.io/bm3exc5e

Please try this one for the debug log. Let me know please, thank you

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txtFetching info...

  On 1/24/2025 at 7:59 AM, sheson said:

What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from?

If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as the when the logs and fire show?

Test if changing the mesh mask rule for "giantcampfire01" from Grid: FarFull to FarLOD and Reference: Replace to Unchanged makes a difference.

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As I see, there are a number of mods that change the "GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif" overwriting each other. I just tried with "EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light" at the end of the LO, overwriting everyone else, I still have the same issue. Let me check what the rocks are from and try with FAR LoD too later, will keep you posted, thanks again

[sheson]

  On 1/24/2025 at 8:00 AM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

Sorry about that. I have the DyndoLOD SSE Log as attached, the Debug is 400+MB, so have to upload. in the link https://ufile.io/f/84a56 I do see all the files attached though. Let me try again this time just with the debug log
https://ufile.io/bm3exc5e

Please try this one for the debug log. Let me know please, thank you

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt 3.23 MB · 1 download

As I see, there are a number of mods that change the "GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif" overwriting each other. I just tried with "EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light" at the end of the LO, overwriting everyone else, I still have the same issue. Let me check what the rocks are from and try with FAR LoD too later, will keep you posted, thanks again

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Why are you replying to a post I made to another user about about their DynDOLOD logs?

You did not really answer these questions:

1. What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from shown in the screenshot? From your answer I take it was from another mod before you tried EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light.

2. If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as when the fire, logs and stones show?

https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum
Try not to make posts that only promise more information, logs, results etc. in the future. If it takes time to first gather information, logs, results etc. it is fine to just take it and then post when ready.

[Commercial_Aside_149]

  On 1/24/2025 at 8:21 AM, sheson said:

Why are you replying to a post I made to another user about about their DynDOLOD logs?

You did not really answer these questions:

1. What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from shown in the screenshot or logs? From your answer I take it was from another mod before you tried EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light.

2. If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as when the fire, logs and stones show?

https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum
Try not to make posts that only promise more information, logs, results etc. in the future. If it takes time to first gather information, logs, results etc. it is fine to just take it and then post when ready.

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Sorry for the confusion. 

 

1. What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from shown in the screenshot or logs? From your answer I take it was from another mod before you tried EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light.

A: Its from Embers XD. I confirmed that Embers XD is overwriting other mods

2. If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as when the fire, logs and stones show?
A: Yes, as I see in below pics: 

In both cases the Base ID is 0003E225 and Ref. ID is 5A0014ED

[sheson]

  On 1/24/2025 at 8:52 AM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

Sorry for the confusion. 

 

1. What mod is the GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif from shown in the screenshot or logs? From your answer I take it was from another mod before you tried EVE - Giant Campfires Cast Shadows - ENB Light.

A: Its from Embers XD. I confirmed that Embers XD is overwriting other mods

2. If only the stones are shown after reload, they have the same reference and base record form IDs as when the fire, logs and stones show?
A: Yes, as I see in below pics: 

In both cases the Base ID is 0003E225 and Ref. ID is 5A0014ED

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What version and install option of Embers XD are using?

There does not seem to be a version of GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif in EmbersXD without a stone circle.

Since we now actually know that the stones and giant fire are separate references and meshes, the missing fire after loading is probably a different problem than the fire particles not showing.

Test if the same still happens with the test versions of DynDOLOD DLL NG from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20141-dyndolod-300-alpha-182/page/686/#findComment-284082. Just replace the DLL, nothing else.

 

[Commercial_Aside_149]

  On 1/24/2025 at 9:40 AM, sheson said:

What version and install option of Embers XD are using?

There does not seem to be a version of GiantCampfire01BurningNoLand.nif in EmbersXD without a stone circle.

Since we now actually know that the stones and giant fire are separate references and meshes, the missing fire after loading is probably a different problem than the fire particles not showing.

Test if the same still happens with the test versions of DynDOLOD DLL NG from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20141-dyndolod-300-alpha-182/page/686/#findComment-284082. Just replace the DLL, nothing else.

 

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Hello Sheson,

I renamed the original Dyndolod DLL from DynDOLOD DLL NG mod to Dyndolod.OLD and then downloaded and copied the one you suggested as above. Only the DLL change, did not download the main Dyndolod. I still have the issue. I stripped down to very basic mods enabled and checked in Bleakwind basin and still have the issue:

First time when I reach Bleakwind Basin:

Saved at the location and reloaded:

If needed, I attach you new log files

https://ufile.io/f/xawuh

Thank you

[sheson]

  On 1/25/2025 at 5:31 AM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

Hello Sheson,

I renamed the original Dyndolod DLL from DynDOLOD DLL NG mod to Dyndolod.OLD and then downloaded and copied the one you suggested as above. Only the DLL change, did not download the main Dyndolod. I still have the issue. I stripped down to very basic mods enabled and checked in Bleakwind basin and still have the issue:

First time when I reach Bleakwind Basin:

Saved at the location and reloaded:

If needed, I attach you new log files

https://ufile.io/f/xawuh

Thank you

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The DynDOLOD Standalone installation seems to be incomplete and not loading certain configuration files.

See https://dyndolod.info/Installation-Instructions how to install DynDOLOD into a new and empty folder. Do not remove any files from the DynDOLOD Standalone folder.

Try with this test version of DynDOLOD DLL NG https://mega.nz/file/4UwnwSyY#Ow0ce_wewK8lOhfKYN4dP1y1cFNAT9oIGsrx4yFAu3k

If the problem persists, also download the test version of DynDOLOD and generate a new LOD patch from scratch.
For testing there is no need for Occlusion or other worldspaces than Tamriel.
If the problem persists, upload new log files and screenshot of full model with more informative console. Explain the steps required to reproduce the problem.
Also upload the DynDOLOD.log from DynDOLOD.DLL and the Papyrus log after reproducing the issue in the game. See bottom of https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs
Also upload ..\SKSE\plugins\DynDOLOD_Data\DynDOLOD_NG_Tamriel.txt from the DynDOLOD output.

[Commercial_Aside_149]

  On 1/25/2025 at 9:16 AM, sheson said:

The DynDOLOD Standalone installation seems to be incomplete and not loading certain configuration files.

See https://dyndolod.info/Installation-Instructions how to install DynDOLOD into a new and empty folder. Do not remove any files from the DynDOLOD Standalone folder.

Try with this test version of DynDOLOD DLL NG https://mega.nz/file/4UwnwSyY#Ow0ce_wewK8lOhfKYN4dP1y1cFNAT9oIGsrx4yFAu3k

If the problem persists, also download the test version of DynDOLOD and generate a new LOD patch from scratch.
For testing there is no need for Occlusion or other worldspaces than Tamriel.
If the problem persists, upload new log files and screenshot of full model with more informative console. Explain the steps required to reproduce the problem.
Also upload the DynDOLOD.log from DynDOLOD.DLL and the Papyrus log after reproducing the issue in the game. See bottom of https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs
Also upload ..\SKSE\plugins\DynDOLOD_Data\DynDOLOD_NG_Tamriel.txt from the DynDOLOD output.

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It worked! I removed Dyndolod completely, downloaded a new copy from Nexus and also got the DLL file from the link you provided above. The point I noted is that I had to have both new install of Dyndolod and also the DLL copy from the link above. My old Dyndolod folder with the new DLL or the DLL from Nexus and Fresh Dyndolod did not work. Another point to note is best not to have Mists of Tamriel, while it is not a direct conflict, the embers XD flames, sparks, smoke etc. do not render

I thank you so much for your help  and sorry for the troubles

Edited January 25 by Commercial_Aside_149

[sheson]

  On 1/25/2025 at 8:36 PM, Commercial_Aside_149 said:

It worked! I removed Dyndolod completely, downloaded a new copy from Nexus and also got the DLL file from the link you provided above. The point I noted is that I had to have both new install of Dyndolod and also the DLL copy from the link above. My old Dyndolod folder with the new DLL or the DLL from Nexus and Fresh Dyndolod did not work.

I thank you so much for your help  and sorry for the troubles

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Thanks for letting us know the latest test version of DynDOLOD DLL NG works now as expected.