DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 182

[RainingTacco]

Can we get separate folder for edit scripts/dyndolod.ini settings, because after you make some custom changes to them, it's then very unwieldy when upgrading to new version, making sure you don't overwrite these ini files is not an easy task as you have to first unpack stuff, delete the ini files and then copy and replace over. If we had them in separate folder without any .dll files that might had been updated, it would be just as easy as not selecting the appropraite folder during unpacking. @sheson 

[sheson]

1 hour ago, RainingTacco said:

Can we get separate folder for edit scripts/dyndolod.ini settings, because after you make some custom changes to them, it's then very unwieldy when upgrading to new version, making sure you don't overwrite these ini files is not an easy task as you have to first unpack stuff, delete the ini files and then copy and replace over. If we had them in separate folder without any .dll files that might had been updated, it would be just as easy as not selecting the appropraite folder during unpacking. @sheson 

https://dyndolod.info/Installation-Instructions
Use 7-Zip to unpack the DynDOLOD Standalone archive into a new and empty 'DynDOLOD' directory that is outside of special OS folders like 'Programs Files' or 'Program Files (x86)', User, Documents, Desktop, Download and also not in SteamApps, game, Data or any mod manager folders. For example C:\Modding\DynDOLOD\.

https://dyndolod.info/Updating
Rename the DynDOLOD Standalone folder, for example from C:\Modding\DynDOLOD to C:\Modding\DynDOLOD.OLD
Unpack the new DynDOLOD Standalone using the same original installation path. See Installation Instructions.
If desired, reapply any customized INI settings. Open the old and new ..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\[DynDOLOD|TexGen]_[GAME MODE].ini in notepad++ to compare to make sure to not accidentally remove any new INI Settings. If the Changelog does not mention any new or changed INI settings, the old INI can typically just be copied in case any settings were customized.

The download archive does not contain a ..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD.ini, so it can not be accidentally overwritten when doings things wrong.

[RainingTacco]

I know about procedure, i just asked if you ever thought about separating these to make it hassle free. 

[sheson]

55 minutes ago, RainingTacco said:

I know about procedure, i just asked if you ever thought about separating these to make it hassle free. 

The DynDOLOD.ini and TexGen.ini are really only used to store the last window position.

[ArdentKumquat]

I ran DynDOLOD on high. It looks fantastic, although the tree LOD is far too bright, especially for yellow aspens. I turned off the ENB and the tree LOD looked perfect, so it's either a problem with the ENB engine, or the specific settings I have. Does anyone know what affects LOD brightness in ENB? I think ambient light does, and probably direct lighting, although I haven't tested that yet. Are there any special instructions for using this with  ENB? I have fixed it locally by significantly reducing both brightness and saturation directly on the texture file, and now it looks ok. Are all the ENB users doing something like this?

Edited September 9, 2023 by ArdentKumquat

[sheson]

6 minutes ago, ArdentKumquat said:

I ran DynDOLOD on high. It looks fantastic, although the tree LOD is far too bright, especially for yellow aspens. I turned off the ENB, and the tree LOD looked perfect, so it's either a problem with the ENB engine, or the specific settings I have. Does anyone know what affects LOD brightness in ENB? I think ambient light does, and probably direct lighting, although I haven't tested that yet. Are there any special instructions for using this with  ENB? I have fixed it locally by significantly reducing both brightness and saturation directly on the texture file, and now it looks ok. Are all the ENB users doing something like this?

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DyNDOLOD logs and debug logs to upload when making posts.

Ask ENB related questions on the ENB forum or discord as whatever it does to tree LOD is unrelated to the tool, if any, that was used to generate tree LOD.

https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Billboard-tree-LOD-does-not-match-close-up-full-model-trees
If the billboard tree LOD seems overly dark or bright, use the billboard brightness setting of the advanced mode to account for lighting changes made by ENBs or weather mods.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Advanced-Mode#Tree-LOD
Negative Billboard Brightness values will make the billboard tree LOD darker, while positive values will make it brighter.

Also see https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen#Direct-Ambient-Smoothness

Consider to use https://dyndolod.info/Help/Ultra-Tree-LOD with 3D tree LOD models and/or HD Tree LOD billboards.
Consider generating HD Tree LOD billboards with normal map textures for better looking tree LOD that reacts more naturally to lighting than standard tree LOD.

[ArdentKumquat]

32 minutes ago, sheson said:

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DyNDOLOD logs and debug logs to upload when making posts.

Ask ENB related questions on the ENB forum or discord as whatever it does to tree LOD is unrelated to the tool, if any, that was used to generate tree LOD.

https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Billboard-tree-LOD-does-not-match-close-up-full-model-trees
If the billboard tree LOD seems overly dark or bright, use the billboard brightness setting of the advanced mode to account for lighting changes made by ENBs or weather mods.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Advanced-Mode#Tree-LOD
Negative Billboard Brightness values will make the billboard tree LOD darker, while positive values will make it brighter.

Also see https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen#Direct-Ambient-Smoothness

Consider to use https://dyndolod.info/Help/Ultra-Tree-LOD with 3D tree LOD models and/or HD Tree LOD billboards.
Consider generating HD Tree LOD billboards with normal map textures for better looking tree LOD that reacts more naturally to lighting than standard tree LOD.

You can't simply darken the tree LOD. It becomes extremely saturated. You would also need an option for saturation adjustment to achieve proper results. I will look into the Ultra Tree LOD. Thanks.

[sheson]

11 minutes ago, ArdentKumquat said:

You can't simply darken the tree LOD. It becomes extremely saturated. You would also need an option for saturation adjustment to achieve proper results. I will look into the Ultra Tree LOD. Thanks.

Changing tree LOD brightness in xLODGen before DynDOLDO was a thing usually works for everybody since Skyrim LE.
Other than that there are also the mentioned controls in TexGen.

Sounds like a problem with the ENB preset or its requirements (specific weather mod or tree mod for example). Standard tree LOD lighting always works the same way regardless of what the diffuse texture depicts.

[ks182]

hi, are you having an error with MarkarthWorld?

Edited September 9, 2023 by ks182

[DoctorSauce]

Just now, ks182 said:

hi, are you having an error with MarkarthWorld?

I was just making a post here to report that Alpha-143 crashes right when it starts processing MarkarthWorld with the error message "Duplicates not allowed while processing Skyrim.esm [REFR:000186D4] (places DweClutterArchSmall01 [STAT:00074EBB] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MarkarthMines [CELL:00020EED] (in MarkarthWorld "Markarth" [WRLD:00016D71] at -43,0))." I guess it makes me feel better that I'm not the only one, haha.

Bugreport and log are included in the post, debug log is here ( https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xqXOOws2cRTsz84CXla3SSalXXQrerwa/view?usp=sharing ) due to file size.

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt bugreport.txt

[ks182]

hi sheson, an error appeared with update 143

bugreport.txt

[BuddyKidd]

[Window Title]
DynDOLOD

[Main Instruction]
Error: Duplicates not allowed while processing Skyrim.esm [REFR:000186C0] (places DweClutterArchSmall01 [STAT:00074EBB] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MarkarthKeep [CELL:00020EEA] (in MarkarthWorld "Markarth" [WRLD:00016D71] at -44,1))

[Content]

Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message

For qualified help and advice or to report a problem make a post on the official DynDOLOD support forum.

[OK] [Exit DynDOLOD]

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https://www.dropbox.com/t/NbVdXTU2DKQiiKix

 

 

 

[Hardwehr]

2 hours ago, ks182 said:

hi, are you having an error with MarkarthWorld?

Yep

[06:40] [MarkarthWorld] Processing 2791 references
[07:36] Duplicates not allowed while processing Skyrim.esm [REFR:000186C5] (places DweClutterArchSmall01 [STAT:00074EBB] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MarkarthKeep [CELL:00020EEA] (in MarkarthWorld "Markarth" [WRLD:00016D71] at -44,1))
[07:36] LODGenx64Win.exe generated object LOD for DLC2SolstheimWorld successfully
[07:36] Waiting for LODGenx64Win.exe generating object LOD for Tamriel.
[29:10] LODGenx64Win.exe generated object LOD for Tamriel successfully
[29:10] Created a summary of log messages C:\Modding\Tools\DynDOLOD\Summary\DynDOLOD_Index.html.
Duplicates not allowed while processing Skyrim.esm [REFR:000186C5] (places DweClutterArchSmall01 [STAT:00074EBB] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MarkarthKeep [CELL:00020EEA] (in MarkarthWorld "Markarth" [WRLD:00016D71] at -44,1))
Error: Duplicates not allowed while processing Skyrim.esm [REFR:000186C5] (places DweClutterArchSmall01 [STAT:00074EBB] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of MarkarthKeep [CELL:00020EEA] (in MarkarthWorld "Markarth" [WRLD:00016D71] at -44,1))

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aJ9vT7S2HEOVsB_1CrIzJXzbu9cVnVrY?usp=sharing

Edited September 9, 2023 by Hardwehr

[sheson]

9 hours ago, ks182 said:

hi, are you having an error with MarkarthWorld?

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log, debug log and bugreport.txt to upload when making posts.

[ArdentKumquat]

9 hours ago, sheson said:

Changing tree LOD brightness in xLODGen before DynDOLDO was a thing usually works for everybody since Skyrim LE.
Other than that there are also the mentioned controls in TexGen.

Sounds like a problem with the ENB preset or its requirements (specific weather mod or tree mod for example). Standard tree LOD lighting always works the same way regardless of what the diffuse texture depicts.

That might normally be a reasonable conclusion, except that I had been using LOD for Skyrim Flora Overhaul and did not have bright LOD trees with the exact same preset. I had used an earlier version of LODGen (xLODGen.97) to generate everything. I also have mods installed that come with their own tree LOD, and those aren't bright.  It was very specific to generating LOD with the current tools for Fabled Forests. Ultimately, it's not a problem for me since I simply edit the LOD textures until they have the correct appearance, but I was curious about why this was suddenly happening after years of using LODGen, and with an ENB preset I have also been using for years (with a lot of custom adjustments).