sheson Posted January 5, 2023 Author Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 7:21 AM, blueetenicolet said: txt here: Mega And In the log of SSEEdit, it seems only read from some esm plugins, not all esm. Reveal hidden contents [00:00] Start: Applying script "Skyrim SE - List Large References for Plugin" Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm LabyrinthianMazeWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm WindhelmPitWorldspace Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm FrostmereCryptWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm KatariahWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm JaphetsFollyWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm AlftandWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm BrinewaterGrottoWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm EastEmpireWarehouse Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm WhiterunDragonsreachWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm CWSiegeTestWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm EldergleamSanctuaryWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm SolitudeWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm KarthspireRedoubtWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm BluePalaceWingWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm Sovngarde Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm DarkwaterWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm RedEagleRedoubtWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm ShadowgreenCavernWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm DeepwoodRedoubtWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm SkuldafnWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm FallowstoneCaveWorldStart Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm LabyrinthianWorld04 Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm BlindCliffCaveWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm SouthfringeWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm FallowstoneCaveWorldEnd Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm BloatedMansGrottoWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm Blackreach Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm MossMotherCavernWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm LabyrinthianWorld03 Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm LabyrinthianWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm CWTestHold Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm WhiterunWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm MarkarthWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm RiftenWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm WindhelmWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Skyrim.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for Update.esm TestSnow Reading Large Reference Data for Update.esm SolitudeWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Update.esm WhiterunWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Update.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC1VampireCastleCourtyard Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC01Boneyard Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC1DarkfallPassageWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC1AncestorsGladeWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm TestMeganWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC1ForebearsHoldout Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC1HunterHQWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC01SoulCairn Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm DLC01FalmerValley Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm Blackreach Reading Large Reference Data for Dawnguard.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for HearthFires.esm WindhelmWorld Reading Large Reference Data for HearthFires.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for Dragonborn.esm DLC2ApocryphaWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dragonborn.esm DLC2SolstheimWorld Reading Large Reference Data for Dragonborn.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for ccbgssse003-zombies.esl Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm Tamriel Reading Large Reference Data for BetterDynamicAsh-DisableRefs.esm DLC2SolstheimWorld [02:28] Done: Applying script "Skyrim SE - List Large References for Plugin", Processed Records: 2368175, Elapsed Time: 02:28 Expand It only lists plugins and worldspaces that have large reference data. Does the issue still happen if you disable EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp?
blueetenicolet Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 12:19 PM, sheson said: It only lists plugins and worldspaces that have large reference data. Does the issue still happen if you disable EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp? Expand Ur, that still happens
blueetenicolet Posted January 5, 2023 Posted January 5, 2023 I remember being in a similar situation: I can't start the sence that Balgruf lead you to Farengar to talk about bleakfall. Balgruf should lead you to meet Farengar, but he do nothing after dialogue, finally i found it was a guard mod caused that. One guard is considered doesn't matter and was disabled by the author, but in fact he's one Alias in a quest, and it caused that quest cannot run, then caused the bleak fall quest broken. Maybe this is the same? Some largeReference is Alias in some quest and was disabled by LargeReference workaround, so caused other quest damaged?
sheson Posted January 5, 2023 Author Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 2:15 PM, blueetenicolet said: I remember being in a similar situation: I can't start the sence that Balgruf lead you to Farengar to talk about bleakfall. Balgruf should lead you to meet Farengar, but he do nothing after dialogue, finally i found it was a guard mod caused that. One guard is considered doesn't matter and was disabled by the author, but in fact he's one Alias in a quest, and it caused that quest cannot run, then caused the bleak fall quest broken. Maybe this is the same? Some largeReference is Alias in some quest and was disabled by LargeReference workaround, so caused other quest damaged? Expand The workarounds do not disable large references. That could only be done by removing them from the worldspace RNAM list in the plugin(s) that add them. Large references are references with the base record STAT or MSTT. Check the exported list. There is no NPC in that list.
sheson Posted January 6, 2023 Author Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 1:25 PM, blueetenicolet said: Ur, that still happens Expand Test with this version of DynDOLOD DLL NG https://mega.nz/file/JIxxWLyR#WQ5Da9xkK-jRVANdI31lmYA1BTngNKrkUB7OxgJBn9U If the issue does not happen and if there are no other weird side effects, this is an actual fix.
z929669 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 @sheson As I have confirmed for AMD cards, the 22.5.1 drivers work with latest version of DynDOLOD, but that version doesn't appear to be available for latest Radeon XT-series AMD cards, and the latest drivers reportedly still have the OpenGL issue with DynDOLOD. Is there no way to resolve this on DynDOLOD side? Because it's very likely not going to be 'fixed' by AMD, because there is quite likely nothing wrong with their drivers. I can help with testing when I have time if you have parameters.
sheson Posted January 6, 2023 Author Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 5:56 PM, z929669 said: @sheson As I have confirmed for AMD cards, the 22.5.1 drivers work with latest version of DynDOLOD, but that version doesn't appear to be available for latest Radeon XT-series AMD cards, and the latest drivers reportedly still have the OpenGL issue with DynDOLOD. Is there no way to resolve this on DynDOLOD side? Because it's very likely not going to be 'fixed' by AMD, because there is quite likely nothing wrong with their drivers. I can help with testing when I have time if you have parameters. Expand Read the first post and https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum what logs and bugreports to provide when posting about problems with the latest alpha version.
z929669 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 6:10 PM, sheson said: Read the first post and https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum what logs and bugreports to provide when posting about problems with the latest alpha version. Expand Relevant logs have been provided in the past by those of us with AMD cards and using driver versions > 22.5.1, and logs aren't applicable to my question and comment above. I'm asking if there is appetite for resolving the new AMD issues with the latest versions of DynDOLOD. I will take your response to mean that those of us on AMD should install the latest drivers and post those logs as applicable. This is a viable path forward as long as there is a path to resolving besides "rely on AMD deprecated drivers" or "buy an NVIDIA" or "wait for AMD to fix" (when nothing is broken from their standpoint).
sheson Posted January 6, 2023 Author Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 6:29 PM, z929669 said: Relevant logs have been provided in the past by those of us with AMD cards and using driver versions > 22.5.1, and logs aren't applicable to my question and comment above. I'm asking if there is appetite for resolving the new AMD issues with the latest versions of DynDOLOD. I will take your response to mean that those of us on AMD should install the latest drivers and post those logs as applicable. This is a viable path forward as long as there is a path to resolving besides "rely on AMD deprecated drivers" or "buy an NVIDIA" or "wait for AMD to fix" (when nothing is broken from their standpoint). Expand No logs and no bugreports about the known AMD issue with older DynDOLOD versions have been provided for the latest alpha version as far as I remember. I beg for them every time a user posts about that problem. I have no ideas what the "new AMD issues with the latest versions of DynDOLOD" is supposed to be as I do not recall any logs or bugreports about it either. 1
z929669 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 6:46 PM, sheson said: No logs and no bugreports about the known AMD issue with older DynDOLOD versions have been provided for the latest alpha version as far as I remember. I beg for them every time a user posts about that problem. I have no ideas what the "new AMD issues with the latest versions of DynDOLOD" is supposed to be as I do not recall any logs or bugreports about it either. Expand The "new" issues with respect to AMD drivers for the Radeon 7900XT were reported on one of our Nexus mod pages. After looking further, I found that the known compatible version of the drivers are not available for that card. So I got to thinking that those with latest AMD GFX (myself as yet not included) will be out of luck unless they are prepared to troubleshoot on this forum with proper logs and testing parameters. As you know, this is often difficult, given that few people want to test/troubleshoot. I will be in a position to do so in the near future, so I will upgrade my drivers and begin that testing if you have appetite to work through these issues. For now, I'm running 22.5.1 drivers without issue, but I'd like to keep up with their updates as they roll out. There may be a new version out there now for my card. I also want to hold of upgrading my GFX until I know there is a path to resolution for AMD. I'll be posting back here in the coming weeks to work this issue, so thanks for the clarity.
ElCapitan8866 Posted January 6, 2023 Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 10:10 AM, sheson said: Read the first post which log and debug log to upload when making posts. Set the Season Type in po3_SeasonsOfSkyrim.ini accordingly to the list which should be above the setting. ;0 - disabled ;1 - permanent winter ;2 - permanent spring ;3 - permanent summer ;4 - permanent autumn Set Season Type = 0 to generate the default grass cache. See https://dyndolod.info/Help/Grass-LOD#No-Grass-LOD-Check-List Expand Hi Sheson, thank you for the feedback. On reviewing the No Grass LOD Check List I found that TexGen was not producing any grass LODs. A little more research and I found that I needed to recalculate boundaries for all grasses in the Seasonal Landscapes plugin using the CK. After that, produced all 5 grass caches (name accordingly for each season plus the default one), ran xLodgen, then TexGen, then Dyndolod, finally disabled the grass cache and the use Crass Cache option under the NGIO ini, and viola! Good beautiful landscapes with matching distant terrain, object, trees, and grass LODs for each season. Thank you again!
TZV4344 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 First of all I would like to apologize for any rudeness in my wording as I use DeepL. Perhaps the load order checking method has changed since Alpha109, but I am getting errors in profiles where no problems were detected in 108. I would like to try to correct it to the correct load order, but where should I look in the log?
Jake0233 Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 It seems that the latest update to DynDOLOD produced an error when I have the mod "Teldryn Seros" installed. An error occurred when this mod is installed including its Lux Patch. Here are the logs when I attempted to build the LODs: https://ufile.io/ro63bf07 https://ufile.io/y6j2vpat https://ufile.io/2vxljsp1
blueetenicolet Posted January 8, 2023 Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 4:31 PM, sheson said: Test with this version of DynDOLOD DLL NG https://mega.nz/file/JIxxWLyR#WQ5Da9xkK-jRVANdI31lmYA1BTngNKrkUB7OxgJBn9U If the issue does not happen and if there are no other weird side effects, this is an actual fix. Expand I 'm going on business trip now, i can test it about 2 days later.
sheson Posted January 8, 2023 Author Posted January 8, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 12:26 AM, TZV4344 said: First of all I would like to apologize for any rudeness in my wording as I use DeepL. Perhaps the load order checking method has changed since Alpha109, but I am getting errors in profiles where no problems were detected in 108. I would like to try to correct it to the correct load order, but where should I look in the log? Expand Read the first post which log, debug log and bugreport.txt (if it exists) to upload when making posts. As explained of the first post, if there are error messages prompts, read the entire message carefully and click the link "Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message" or read https://dyndolod.info/Messages or https://dyndolod.info/Help for the associated help topics yourself. If help with a message is required, use the "Copy this message to clipboard" link and past the text.
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