DynDOLOD 3.00 Alpha 180

[sheson]

1 hour ago, leostevano said:

Sheson, I have some strange orbs flying inside childworld whiterun : 

I just rearrange my load order recently, so I cant figure out is this because of my current load order, my dyndolod settings, or the new alpha.

Here's the full logs : https://ufile.io/3jno7uby

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Glow-LOD#Fake-Lights
Check Fake lights child worlds to add FXGlow LOD in place of lights in the child worlds of the selected world that LOD is generated for. This adds the FXGlow LOD to the major cities when looking in from the outside.

Do not check the option if you do not want fake lights in child worlds.

[leostevano]

7 minutes ago, sheson said:

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Glow-LOD#Fake-Lights
Check Fake lights child worlds to add FXGlow LOD in place of lights in the child worlds of the selected world that LOD is generated for. This adds the FXGlow LOD to the major cities when looking in from the outside.

Do not check the option if you do not want fake lights in child worlds.

I see, thanks for clarifying Sheson.

[Mousetick]

DynDOLOD 3a154

Combined Worldspaces for LOD "breaks" the 3D Tree LOD UseMipMaps passthru of full model texture mipmaps to the object LOD atlas.

Clipping of DynDOLOD_Tamriel.dds: Without Tamriel_Combine.ini | With Tamriel_Combine.ini

Full logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RM3PQmqDxLnhbcJ12pJq0SbEDL9t2B2i/view

Thanks.

[sheson]

56 minutes ago, Mousetick said:

DynDOLOD 3a154

Combined Worldspaces for LOD "breaks" the 3D Tree LOD UseMipMaps passthru of full model texture mipmaps to the object LOD atlas.

Clipping of DynDOLOD_Tamriel.dds: Without Tamriel_Combine.ini | With Tamriel_Combine.ini

Full logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RM3PQmqDxLnhbcJ12pJq0SbEDL9t2B2i/view

Thanks.

Combining worldspaces does not really change anything about object LOD atlas generation.

The source texture filename was not provided. Make sure all LOD models/shapes using that texture set "UseMipMaps" and have the same AlphaThreshold.

[Mousetick]

23 minutes ago, sheson said:

The source texture filename was not provided. Make sure all LOD models/shapes using that texture set "UseMipMaps" and have the same AlphaThreshold.

Sorry, the source texture is textures/landscape/trees/treepineforestbranchcomp.dds.

When generating object LOD for DLC2SolstheimWorld only, this texture doesn't appear in DynDOLOD_SSE_TexturesUsed_DLC2SolstheimWorld.txt. It's not used by any model in that worldspace. It logically doesn't appear in DynDOLOD_DLC2SolstheimWorld.dds either.

When generating object LOD for Tamriel only (without Tamriel_Combine.ini), the mipmaps in the atlas are correct as expected from UseMipMaps. This means all LOD models/shapes using that texture set "UseMipMaps" and have the same AlphaThreshold.

[sheson]

1 hour ago, Mousetick said:

When generating object LOD for Tamriel only (without Tamriel_Combine.ini), the mipmaps in the atlas are correct as expected from UseMipMaps. This means all LOD models/shapes using that texture set "UseMipMaps" and have the same AlphaThreshold.

No, it does not mean that. The order in which assets are processed is not always the same.

Use a dedicated unique texture filename for one of the LOD models and let me know if this unique texture has mipmaps created or not.

[Swoop]

DynDOLOD Summary Of Messages reports:

Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellbase01.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellBase01_NoIce [STAT:000C1D50]Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellbase01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellBase01 [STAT:0006F74A]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershelldoor03.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellDoor03_NoIce [STAT:000C1DBC]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershelldoor03.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellDoor03 [STAT:0006F74D]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellstairs01.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellStairs01_NoIce [STAT:000C1DBB]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellstairs01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellStairs01 [STAT:0006F750]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall01 [STAT:0006F752]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall02.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall02 [STAT:0006F753]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall03.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall03 [STAT:0006F754]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall04.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall04 [STAT:0006F755]

 

I made a bug report on Stretched Snow Begone and received this reply from the author:

"This is probably a problem with Dyndolod and this sort of problem has been reported before with Dyndolod so I would suggest reporting this to the Dyndolod forums because they would be more able to help you.

I think these errors are probably benign though as its been reported before, in the comment section, that these kind of errors sometimes pop up when running dyndolod and they don't really cause problems. 

By the way, I used the BAE program to look through the base games texture bsa files and the "impextdecals01ice_n.dds" doesn't even exist within them so I think this texture may be something added by dyndolod. "

 

DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log.txt

https://ufile.io/f/kvg6a

 

 

[elwood612]

Yeah, I'm a bit lost on this one. In the screenshots, you can see what I mean. As soon as I load into that save (IE, get close to the building), I take a screenshot, and the windmill building is there. After a second, the game loads in objects that are close to me, and for some reason that windmill disappears. It's all 3 windmills in that area, actually. As you can see in the close-up screenshot, it's probably been flagged as disabled.

Now, this 100% was not an issue before. I did recently update (clean save + rerun, as per the Update page on Dyndolod.info) my Dyndolod installation, and it's possible that I inadvertently changed some of my settings. Specifically, I cannot remember what I had previously checked for Upgrade NearGrid Refs, Large Refs workaround, and Downgrade FarGrid Refs. My uLargeRef size is 9 btw.

When I disable & uninstall Dyndolod, the issue goes away.

I did try to check out the building in question in SSEEdit, but I cannot for the life of me find it. I can find it in the Creation Kit, but I cannot find that RefID, or even BaseID, or EditorName anywhere in SSEEdit. So once I manage to find that I'll update this post.

In the meantime, what did I do wrong? Based on intuition and not much else, I suspect I messed up when I updated Dyndolod, and changed some of the NearGrid and FarGrid refs.

I've just never encountered the situation where the LODs were fine but the base object was disabled. I'm sure the load order is correct, at least in terms of that building. Again, this is 30 hours into this playthrough and I'm 100% certain this didn't use to be an issue.

Thanks! And thanks to Sheson for this amazing mod, I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.

Edited October 11, 2023 by elwood612

[sheson]

28 minutes ago, Swoop said:

DynDOLOD Summary Of Messages reports:

Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellbase01.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellBase01_NoIce [STAT:000C1D50]Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellbase01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellBase01 [STAT:0006F74A]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershelldoor03.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellDoor03_NoIce [STAT:000C1DBC]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershelldoor03.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellDoor03 [STAT:0006F74D]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellstairs01.nif Skyrim.esm ImpExtIceTowerShellStairs01_NoIce [STAT:000C1DBB]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellstairs01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellStairs01 [STAT:0006F750]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall01.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall01 [STAT:0006F752]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall02.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall02 [STAT:0006F753]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall03.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall03 [STAT:0006F754]
Warning: File not found textures\dungeons\imperial\impextdecals01ice_n.dds. Used by Meshes\dungeons\imperial\exteriorice\impexticetowershellwall04.nif Stretched Snow Begone.esp ImpExtIceTowerShellWall04 [STAT:0006F755]

 

I made a bug report on Stretched Snow Begone and received this reply from the author:

"This is probably a problem with Dyndolod and this sort of problem has been reported before with Dyndolod so I would suggest reporting this to the Dyndolod forums because they would be more able to help you.

I think these errors are probably benign though as its been reported before, in the comment section, that these kind of errors sometimes pop up when running dyndolod and they don't really cause problems. 

By the way, I used the BAE program to look through the base games texture bsa files and the "impextdecals01ice_n.dds" doesn't even exist within them so I think this texture may be something added by dyndolod. "

 

DynDOLOD_SSE_Debug_log.txt

https://ufile.io/f/kvg6a

https://dyndolod.info/Messages/File-Not-Found-Textures
The texture can not be found.

The message states a fact. The mentioned texture can not be found in the load order. There is no problem with DynDOLOD, it is working as designed and reports a problem in the load order.

The message tells you which NIF and base record requires the texture.

Unless the base record defines alternate textures (which Stretched Snow Begone.esp does not do after doing a quick check with xEdit, some base records are still vanilla also), the culprit is the mod that contains the mentioned NIFs, which you can easily find out with MO2 right window data tab.

BTW it is easier to use xEdit Asset Browser (CTRL+F3) and/or enable MO2 archives parsing to check contents of BSA files.

[Mousetick]

3 hours ago, sheson said:

Use a dedicated unique texture filename for one of the LOD models and let me know if this unique texture has mipmaps created or not.

• Copied full res texture to textures/landscape/trees/x/treepineforestbranchcomp.dds.
• Edited texture sets in full model meshes to use new path.
• Edited texture sets in 3D LOD model meshes to use new path.
• Added CRC32 to name of 3D LOD model meshes.

This made no difference. Not combined: mipmaps in atlas OK. Combined: mipmaps in atlas wrong.

In both cases, the mipmap for that texture has changed position within the atlas. But that's it.

I uploaded new logs and assets used to https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S7ng4FbmbdWhMct4hTV4Moin7EGLGAGD/view.

Thanks.

[sheson]

22 minutes ago, elwood612 said:

Yeah, I'm a bit lost on this one. In the screenshots, you can see what I mean. As soon as I load into that save (IE, get close to the building), I take a screenshot, and the windmill building is there. After a second, the game loads in objects that are close to me, and for some reason that windmill disappears. It's all 3 windmills in that area, actually. As you can see in the close-up screenshot, it's probably been flagged as disabled.

Now, this 100% was not an issue before. I did recently update (clean save + rerun, as per the Update page on Dyndolod.info) my Dyndolod installation, and it's possible that I inadvertently changed some of my settings. Specifically, I cannot remember what I had previously checked for Upgrade NearGrid Refs, Large Refs workaround, and Downgrade FarGrid Refs. My uLargeRef size is 9 btw.

When I disable & uninstall Dyndolod, the issue goes away.

I did try to check out the building in question in SSEEdit, but I cannot for the life of me find it. I can find it in the Creation Kit, but I cannot find that RefID, or even BaseID, or EditorName anywhere in SSEEdit. So once I manage to find that I'll update this post.

In the meantime, what did I do wrong? Based on intuition and not much else, I suspect I messed up when I updated Dyndolod, and changed some of the NearGrid and FarGrid refs.

I've just never encountered the situation where the LODs were fine but the base object was disabled. I'm sure the load order is correct, at least in terms of that building. Again, this is 30 hours into this playthrough and I'm 100% certain this didn't use to be an issue.

Thanks! And thanks to Sheson for this amazing mod, I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually.

Moved to the DynDOLOD 3 Alpha thread.

Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots with more informative console (in this case also without the DynDOLOD output being enabled). 

The last two screenshots are not labeled so it is unclear what is different in the load order.

Test with a new game. If that works, redo the clean save. https://dyndolod.info/Help/Clean-Save

[sheson]

35 minutes ago, Mousetick said:

• Copied full res texture to textures/landscape/trees/x/treepineforestbranchcomp.dds.
• Edited texture sets in full model meshes to use new path.
• Edited texture sets in 3D LOD model meshes to use new path.
• Added CRC32 to name of 3D LOD model meshes.

This made no difference. Not combined: mipmaps in atlas OK. Combined: mipmaps in atlas wrong.

In both cases, the mipmap for that texture has changed position within the atlas. But that's it.

I uploaded new logs and assets used to https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S7ng4FbmbdWhMct4hTV4Moin7EGLGAGD/view.

Thanks.

Check if DynDOLOD 3 Alpha-155 fixes that.

[elwood612]

Ok, thank you very much. Attached is the latest log, although I have re-run Dyndolod several times recently to try and fix this. Not sure how relevant it will be. The debug log is 127MB and too big even for pastebin, let me know if that's an issue. Also apologies for posting in the wrong place. Gotta say, your response time is unbelievable lol.

To be clear, the issue is that the windmill disappears when I get close. Therefore, in the previous screenshots, one of them was taken before the LOD had faded away, and one after. Those screenshots were taken like 2 seconds apart, same load order.

I did try a new game, and lo and behold, you were right - the issue is fixed. So something probably went wrong with my clean save procedure (I've done it a bunch though!).

Question: when disabling Dyndolod in the MCM, then closing the MCM, am I supposed to get a notification in the top left, or a message box popup? I could have sworn it used to be the latter, but I only got the former when I made the latest clean save.

Attached is also a screenshot of the console and the windmill in question. This was taken on the new save, so of course no issues. This screenshot was impossible to take on my current save, since the building disappears.

Thanks!

 

DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt

[sheson]

9 minutes ago, elwood612 said:

Ok, thank you very much. Attached is the latest log, although I have re-run Dyndolod several times recently to try and fix this. Not sure how relevant it will be. The debug log is 127MB and too big even for pastebin, let me know if that's an issue. Also apologies for posting in the wrong place. Gotta say, your response time is unbelievable lol.

To be clear, the issue is that the windmill disappears when I get close. Therefore, in the previous screenshots, one of them was taken before the LOD had faded away, and one after. Those screenshots were taken like 2 seconds apart, same load order.

I did try a new game, and lo and behold, you were right - the issue is fixed. So something probably went wrong with my clean save procedure (I've done it a bunch though!).

Question: when disabling Dyndolod in the MCM, then closing the MCM, am I supposed to get a notification in the top left, or a message box popup? I could have sworn it used to be the latter, but I only got the former when I made the latest clean save.

Attached is also a screenshot of the console and the windmill in question. This was taken on the new save, so of course no issues. This screenshot was impossible to take on my current save, since the building disappears.

Thanks!

 

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Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs how to zip and upload large log files to a file service.

There is no deactivation/activation notification anymore with the large references workarounds.

[elwood612]

Ok, thank you. Apologies again, I missed the line about uploading the zip file. Here is the zipped up Logs folder (again, Dyndolod has been run several times since the output I'm currently using was generated): https://ufile.io/wcwb0fhe

I went ahead and found the windmill object in my current save using the `prid` command. It was in fact disabled (see attached screenshot, top left). So a temp fix for my current save is just to enable that object and keep playing. However, I would like to understand what happened there if possible.