Dynamic Distant Objects LOD - DynDOLOD for Skyrim and Enderal 2.98

[AIRtZQ]

Hello, sheson,

 I have a serious problem that only happens in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim".

Whenever I save the game in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim", when I open the game again and read the archive just saved in the room, dungeon or cave, press "M" to open the map, it will appear 100% CTD failure,

I tried to start a new game, save the game in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim", read the file again, and still appear CTD.

The strange thing is that I am outdoors in "Solstheim", press M to open the map and there is no CTD.

I tried to test in other indoors, dungeons or caves in skyrim, and there was no CTD.

At first I thought it was caused by some maps or GUI mods, so I deleted a lot of mods, but unfortunately it didn't solve. Until I deleted DynDOLOD, the fault was solved, and pressing M to open the map also returned to normal.

 

The mod I am currently using is the latest version.

DynDOLOD Resources 2.62

DynDOLOD 2.63

 

These are some of the things I tested myself. I really like your mod. I hope you can help test if there are similar problems. I have 100% CTD in my test.

 

English is not my native language, so I may not be able to describe it particularly clearly, please forgive me.

thank you for your support

Edited May 29, 2019 by AIRtZQ

[sheson]

  On 5/29/2019 at 11:08 AM, AIRtZQ said:

 

Hello, sheson,

 I have a serious problem that only happens in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim".

Whenever I save the game in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim", when I open the game again and read the archive just saved in the room, dungeon or cave, press "M" to open the map, it will appear 100% CTD failure,

I tried to start a new game, save the game in the interior, dungeon or cave of "Solstheim", read the file again, and still appear CTD.

The strange thing is that I am outdoors in "Solstheim", press M to open the map and there is no CTD.

I tried to test in other indoors, dungeons or caves in skyrim, and there was no CTD.

At first I thought it was caused by some maps or GUI mods, so I deleted a lot of mods, but unfortunately it didn't solve. Until I deleted DynDOLOD, the fault was solved, and pressing M to open the map also returned to normal.

 

The mod I am currently using is the latest version.

DynDOLOD Resources 2.62

DynDOLOD 2.63

 

These are some of the things I tested myself. I really like your mod. I hope you can help test if there are similar problems. I have 100% CTD in my test.

 

English is not my native language, so I may not be able to describe it particularly clearly, please forgive me.

thank you for your support

 

 

Create a new LOD mod from scratch for the current LOD order and test if the the problem still happens.

 

DynDOLOD does nothing to interiors. Though interiors are linked to the parent world. The DynDOLOD patcher copies the data from the highest plugin that overwrites the world record to create the DynDOLOD plugin. If the load order changes afterwards the record in the DynDOLOD plugins could be out of date. 

 

If you know how, you can also just check for conflicts and resolve them.

Edited May 29, 2019 by sheson

[AIRtZQ]

  On 5/29/2019 at 12:54 PM, sheson said:

Create a new LOD mod from scratch for the current LOD order and test if the the problem still happens.

 

DynDOLOD does nothing to interiors. Though interiors are linked to the parent world. The DynDOLOD patcher copies the data from the highest plugin that overwrites the world record to create the DynDOLOD plugin. If the load order changes afterwards the record in the DynDOLOD plugins could be out of date. 

 

If you know how, you can also just check for conflicts and resolve them.

Yes,

I recreated "TexGen Output" and "DynDOLOD Output" as you suggested, and created a new game.

Tested in the same way, there is still a CTD problem, I don't know what mod will cause me to open the map's CTD problem indoors after loading DynDOLOD.

Then I compared the difference between loading DynDOLOD.esp and not loading the open map. I found that when loading DynDOLOD.esp, the map interface will have a lot of fog. If it doesn't load, there will be no fog. I will provide my screenshot. I hope I can help you solve this problem for me.

Another strange problem, as long as I go out outdoor, once again enter the room to open the map will not appear CTD, but as long as I read the game in the indoor archive, press M to open the map will immediately CTD, very strange.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TMTrLkGvIRkMJvvAUOnM4zZ7R268EPd_/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHfd1JgyXg_Ae9syhKUYw6vzU4Bn47mM/view?usp=sharing

[sheson]

  On 5/29/2019 at 4:58 PM, AIRtZQ said:

 

Yes,

I recreated "TexGen Output" and "DynDOLOD Output" as you suggested, and created a new game.

Tested in the same way, there is still a CTD problem, I don't know what mod will cause me to open the map's CTD problem indoors after loading DynDOLOD.

Then I compared the difference between loading DynDOLOD.esp and not loading the open map. I found that when loading DynDOLOD.esp, the map interface will have a lot of fog. If it doesn't load, there will be no fog. I will provide my screenshot. I hope I can help you solve this problem for me.

Another strange problem, as long as I go out outdoor, once again enter the room to open the map will not appear CTD, but as long as I read the game in the indoor archive, press M to open the map will immediately CTD, very strange.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TMTrLkGvIRkMJvvAUOnM4zZ7R268EPd_/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHfd1JgyXg_Ae9syhKUYw6vzU4Bn47mM/view?usp=sharing

 

DynDOLOD does not change the map or does not adds/remove any clouds or fog.

 

Strange/Irregular behavior might be caused by resource issues. Make sure memory patch,  Crash Fixes, ENBoost etc. are all installed and working correctly.

 

Check the worldrecord for Solstheim in xEdit for conflicts. 

Edited May 30, 2019 by sheson

[AIRtZQ]

  On 5/30/2019 at 6:28 AM, sheson said:

DynDOLOD does not change the map or does not adds/remove any clouds or fog.

 

Strange/Irregular behavior might be caused by resource issues. Make sure memory patch,  Crash Fixes, ENBoost etc. are all installed and working correctly.

 

Check the worldrecord for Solstheim in xEdit for conflicts. 

Now I can rule out the CTD problem caused by the MOD conflict problem. I only used the required front mod, and the memory repair mod and bug fix mod that almost everyone is using. I still reproduce this CTD fault.

This test basically confirms that the CTD is caused by DynDOLOD.

Different life is only for faster entry into Solstheim, and does not participate in the generation of DynDOLOD

I have provided my MOD list with DynDOLOD details for reference.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AWq1WWcomfKiIvWFFMgw3csvRJwvTT-c/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TFFkGCNqgBXMzWNG2AFUJVxINansH47J/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WYoziOF_p9PQQG-J09mk4tJ6pAEzr1HE/view?usp=sharing

 

Thank you for your continued attention and hope that you can help me solve this problem.

[sheson]

  On 5/30/2019 at 12:33 PM, AIRtZQ said:

I only used the required front mod, and the memory repair mod

I have no idea what both of these are supposed to be.

"memory repair mod" SKSE memory patch?

 

  On 5/30/2019 at 12:33 PM, AIRtZQ said:

and bug fix mod that almost everyone is using. I still reproduce this CTD fault.

I assume this means Crash Fixes. However, you do not say if it is with PreLoader and the UseOsAllocators=1 setting

 

Make sure to setup ENBoost.

 

  On 5/30/2019 at 12:33 PM, AIRtZQ said:

This test basically confirms that the CTD is caused by DynDOLOD. Different life is only for faster entry into Solstheim, and does not participate in the generation of DynDOLOD

I have provided my MOD list with DynDOLOD details for reference.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AWq1WWcomfKiIvWFFMgw3csvRJwvTT-c/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TFFkGCNqgBXMzWNG2AFUJVxINansH47J/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WYoziOF_p9PQQG-J09mk4tJ6pAEzr1HE/view?usp=sharing

I assume this mean the Solhsteim worldrecord does not show any conflicts in xEdit.

 

Do you have the DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume option from DynDOLOD Resources installed?

In MO remove \DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_TES5_DragonbornEsm_DLC2SolstheimWorld.patch from "DynDOLOD Resources" and generate again, see if it makes a difference.

 

Does "hiding" the meshes folder from DynDOLOD Output Test make any difference?

Edited May 30, 2019 by sheson

[AIRtZQ]

  On 5/30/2019 at 1:09 PM, sheson said:

I have no idea what both of these are supposed to be.

"memory repair mod" SKSE memory patch?

 

 

I assume this means Crash Fixes. However, you do not say if it is with PreLoader and the UseOsAllocators=1 setting

 

Make sure to setup ENBoost.

 

 

I assume this mean the Solhsteim worldrecord does not show any conflicts in xEdit.

 

Do you have the DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume option from DynDOLOD Resources installed?

In MO remove \DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_TES5_DragonbornEsm_DLC2SolstheimWorld.patch from "DynDOLOD Resources" and generate again, see if it makes a difference.

 

Does "hiding" the meshes folder from DynDOLOD Output Test make any difference?

Yes, I do use DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume,

I removed DynDOLOD_TES5_DragonbornEsm_DLC2SolstheimWorld.patch according to your suggestion, regenerated DynDOLOD, and entered the game test again. The CTD fault has disappeared.

It can be determined that the fault is caused by the DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume option component.

At the moment my game has returned to normal work, thank you again for your patience, thank you.

[sheson]

  On 5/30/2019 at 3:07 PM, AIRtZQ said:

 

Yes, I do use DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume,

I removed DynDOLOD_TES5_DragonbornEsm_DLC2SolstheimWorld.patch according to your suggestion, regenerated DynDOLOD, and entered the game test again. The CTD fault has disappeared.

It can be determined that the fault is caused by the DLC2 Vvardenfell 3D Plume option component.

At the moment my game has returned to normal work, thank you again for your patience, thank you.

 

Very interesting. Thanks for the help finding that out. I will revise the patch for next update of DynDOLOD Resources.

[AIRtZQ]

  On 5/30/2019 at 3:26 PM, sheson said:

Very interesting. Thanks for the help finding that out. I will revise the patch for next update of DynDOLOD Resources.

Yes, if it can be fixed, that’s great.

[sheson]

  On 5/31/2019 at 12:53 AM, AIRtZQ said:

Yes, if it can be fixed, that’s great.

It is fixed by simply remove the *.patch file. It will keep the 3D plume either way.

Edited May 31, 2019 by sheson

[AIRtZQ]

  On 5/31/2019 at 6:42 AM, sheson said:

It is fixed by simply remove the *.patch file. It will keep the 3D plume either way.

Ok, thank you for your answer.

[MaysSson]

Hello!

 

Can I delete TexGen Output after making a DynDOLOD Output? It seems like all needed textures exist in the DynDOLOD Output atlases.

 

P.s. I didn't see anything about it in tutorials and manual. Maybe I missed.

[sheson]

  On 6/6/2019 at 7:56 PM, MaysSson said:

Hello!

 

Can I delete TexGen Output after making a DynDOLOD Output? It seems like all needed textures exist in the DynDOLOD Output atlases.

 

P.s. I didn't see anything about it in tutorials and manual. Maybe I missed.

No.

 

DynDOLOD_TexGen.html:

 

Typically there is no need to change the default formats. These options are for advanced users / mod authors. Since TexGen.exe generates LOD textures that will be later combined into LOD textures atlasses by DynDOLOD.exe, any desired format changes for the final texture atlasses need to be set in '..\DynDOLOD\Edit Scripts\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_[GAMEMODE].ini'. However, there is the chance that single LOD textures are also used by models directly in game, for example dynamic LOD. Hover the mouse pointer above the drop downs for more info.

 

 

Typically instructions or manuals explains only the things that need to be done and not all the possible things that should not be done. 

Edited June 6, 2019 by sheson

[MaysSson]

By the way, I done one experiment and find that it's the working way to hide that ugly black bezels on tree LOD:

[spoiler=Picture]

 

Alpha-Channel stays the same. Background color applied depends only on existing alpha.

 

 

 

Reason of this black bezels is black atlas background. It would be good, if you add a feature to generate tree atlases with correct background, like in TES5LODGen Vanilla Skyrim LOD Billboards (wherefrom I took these colors).

 

 

[spoiler=Full screenshots]

Black BG:

 

Colored BG:

 

 

Edited June 6, 2019 by MaysSson

[sheson]

  On 6/6/2019 at 10:18 PM, MaysSson said:

It would be good, if you add a feature to generate tree atlases with correct background, like in TES5LODGen Vanilla Skyrim LOD Billboards (wherefrom I took these colors).

Edit DynDOLOD_TES5.ini and set

 

TreeLODAverageColor=1

TreeLODDiffuseFormat=202