Thank you for your assistance. So I did as you recommended and as I thought should be. I created the Fake mod and added the files checked it and placed it in order. When I ticked the Fake file it was tagged with a (white lightning bolt for redundancy). Is this normal? Within FNIS I ticked the 'Skeleton Arm Fix" patch. I have made sure all of the plugins have been selected and the n ran LOOT again. I am familiar with the fact that one needs to run FNIS after installing and uninstalling mods that deal with animations. Concerning the other problem you mention with the default vanilla skeleton for males. I do use the mod "Better Males". Does that make a difference? The next problem I am in the dark. I do not know what XP32 and XPMSE are. I do not know where to go with this one. I want to thank you again. After over 4,000 hours on Skyrim, with your help and Mod Organizer I finally feel I am learning something. With this Machine (MO) as I call it, things are starting to make a lot more sense.