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I just downloaded the new CR and for some reason I'm finding a ton of errors in it. NPCs, cells, weapons... There's something seriously wrong here and I don't think it can just be my set up.

Fading Pride is updated and includes all followers and npc overhauls from this guide. It also includes more improvements, like Brows, feet, hands, etc... UNPB is included with each package by default and BBP Cleavage Nevernude and TBBP 2.5g are included as optionals. I tested most of them but some I haven't had a chance to yet, though they should be fine, but let me know if anyone notices any problems.

Ensai says not to toggle it. Not too long ago someone asked him for clarification if this meant to leave it on and I'm sure he said "yes". I can't find the post on the Imperious site though. It's on by default though in Disparity, so "do no toggle" should mean to leave it active.

Thanks, that's what I was finally beginning to make sense of too. I think most of my confusion was due to thinking the B in UNPB stood for BBP. I realize now it isn't and it all makes so much more sense. My biggest complaint then is that TBBP doesn't have a nevernude option (my son likes to watch me play sometimes). I think it will be easiest to include UNPB and better meshes for hands and feet in the main mod and have an optional which lets the user choose between BBP Nevernude and TBBP if they would prefer to add either of those as well.

It's crazy how much a simple google search will teach you. So UNPB doesn't stand for UNP with BBP? UNPB, UNPB-BBP and UNPB-TBBP are all separate things, 3 things instead of 2? Damn gaming shorthand.

Here's where I get confused with all the body meshes. Blessed body includes both UNPB and TBBP, doesn't it?

I just found the Nexus has a tiny little "permissions" button and UNPB is good to go. I'll get everything uploaded over the next couple of days.

I'm hoping to be able to add UNPB and the hand/foot meshes to Fading Pride. The feet/mesh have permissions given in the description but I haven't gotten an answer about Blessed Body's assets yet. XP32 doesn't allow PMs on the Nexus so I just posted a request in the forum on the nexus page. I'm not sure how often he still checks it, however. Ideally I would like to have UNPB added to each package and then have TBBP as an optional for each package. I also plan on posting a Bijin combined package (warmaidens, npcs and wives) and, yes, an SRLE Extended package as well. I'll add Sofia, Seranaholic and Valerica, as well as additional versions for Vilja and Cerwiden (why oh why hasn't someone picked up Cerwiden and made a redone version yet??? She's easily one of the top three followers ever.) but I'm waiting to see if I hear from XP32 before I do so so I can just upload it all at once. I'm not sure if everyone uses every follower in the pack, however, so I'm not sure if a full SRLEE version is needed or maybe just a MS, OW, Bijin version.

Hey dreadflopp. If we use Hunterborn with CACO, with CACO's patch and yours, do we select to use optional meats, skins or items in the Hunterborn MCM? I had them selected and was getting 2 pelts so I'm assuming "No" on the skins but I want to make sure I'm getting the other meats and items for Hunterborn and CACO. I'm beginning to lose track of what item comes from what mod so that makes it more difficult to figure out. Krypto doesn't say to select it in her patch description so I'm leaning towards leaving it unselected, at default, but I'm not really sure.

Thanks. I'll do some more later today. I'm reuploading Arissa right now, I forgot she's an imperial. She'll have the right msn now. Any opinions on what race Recorder is? I might have to switch that one as well, most likely to imperial since that's what she looks like most to me though. I didn't see any specifics on the recorder page though, just some space/time traveling girl.

Arissa and Mirai are added. Fading Pride

Yeah, Pride of Valhalla, but I use it with Blessed Body UNPB and it works great. I have PV after Mature in my LO so I get PV's textures but still use the MatureSkins esp. Regardless, you shouldn't need the full PV if you want to stick with mature for most npcs, if you use this you'll just have PV's textures for Bijins/Ordinary Womens affected npcs. PV is based on a combination of Mature Skins and Real Girls, which were always my favorite two and I couldn't decide between them, so for me, personally, it's the best out there by a mile.

I just got permission from fadingsignal so the textures are uploaded if you're interested: Fading Pride

I sent a message to the fadingsignal and dracofish to see if I can just post them to the Nexus. Pride of Valhalla uses a lot of other assets so I might have to get more permissions than it might be worth though. It might be easier just to get permission for Mature, I guess. It's mainly the folder structure that needs to be posted. Once that's worked out copying the assets into place is pretty quick.

Yeah, it'll be tomorrow night though. Basically it's easiest to just copy the Males of Skyrim Folder, place the new folder right under the original, rename it and delete everything but the texture path in the new folder. Then copy over the old assets with the textures you want to use (in this example, Skysight Skins). The only thing you have to be aware of is if the mod has different folders for different characters (if I remember right Males of Skyrim and Original Women are easy in this regards since they just have one folder all the npcs use. Bijin, however, has a mix of both so it takes longer but still pretty easy to do). You might need to rename one of the aged women textures, if I remember right. It will end up being just a few body, hand, feet and head dds files though (and all related sk, n, etc... files. Once you look in the texture folder you'll see what I mean. If the folder doesn't have any textures besides facegen data, such as is the case with NPC overhaul, I'm assuming it already uses whatever default textures you use (so, in my case, Skysight and Pride). Sorry for such a sketchy description, I'm going to bed and then work tomorrow. I'll PM you when I get home and have had a chance to look at the folders again so I can be a bit more specific. I just wanted to give you a general description in case you want to mess with it before then.

Here's a handful of pics using Skysight Skins for Males of Skyrim and Pride of Valhalla, which is a combination of Mature and Real Girls, for Ordinary Women: here

Since it's being discussed here I have a question. If I use the underwear option of Blessed Bodies does that mean that I'm not using TBBP and am only using UNPB? The optionals make it sound like that's the case but I've never been sure. My kid watches over my shoulder sometimes and I figure the violence is bad enough without introducing him to a ton of nudity as well.

Yes, I can do that but it won't be until later tonight.

For those having issues with brawl bugs, I found that I have to turn off Vigor during brawls, along with Imperious Racials, in order to avoid the bug. I've had to do this on a few different fights and it works every time. I haven't seen anything in his comments, however, so I'm not sure why it would be my game inparticular but it is. If I leave it active they say "so you want a real fight, huh" and walk away after only a couple punches. Like I said, with it inactive I haven't had any problems and then I just reactivate it after the brawl. I also use his Weapon and Armor Attributes and Bring Your Silver mods and I can leave those active without problems. I tried the new customizer for Bijin Warmaidens and I have the same problems with neck seams as before so I've given up on it. I don't know why it didn't occur to me sooner but I poked around Males of Skyrim and Ordinary Women and it's real easy to make a custom texture folder for those. I'm using Skysight Skins for Males of Skyrim and Pride of Valhalla for Ordinary Women and they look amazing. Much, much better than the textures that comes packages with those two mods.

CCF now has a script that isn't included in Warmonger's LL and isn't pulled forward into the Bash Patch. Is it safe to pull forward or should it be overridden? CCF also changes the Body Template Flags. Thanks.

Sorry dreadflopp, but you say "Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp which should be kept" and then that "these lists" are not needed and should be removed. Can you clarify if we keep the WAFR LL patch please? Thanks

Just a heads up, Darth, but the Delphine hair fix says it's not needed for 3.1 anymore.

I haven't gotten a chance to sit and look at it yet but I'm under the impression, after reading through the description, that the folder structure has been changed so, I assume, the customizer isn't going to work with it until it's updated as well (even then I'm guessing there will still be problems). I'll let you know if I have any luck when I have time to look at it but rxkx made it sound like things are really moved around this time, apparently cutting the file size in half.

Thanks for updating it so quickly. Apparantly the bow draw speed is hardcoded in AGO, causing conflicts with a couple of the Ordinator archery perks. A lot of people were asking for the author to remove this feature but he doesn't sound willing to do so. I didn't like that I couldn't tell if my bow was drawn when sneaking anyway, playing first person, so I don't miss it too much. I've tried a couple of "sleeve" mods and I really like the immersion that they add. They're mainly just meshes and, as near as I can tell it, only overrides a couple of armors from Amidianborn but, with Frostfall, it actually makes you feel like everyone in Skyrim is freezing their asses off. I have them ordered as such: Another Sleeves Mod - Brigandage Replacers Super Sleeves of Skyrim Warmth - Light Armor Replacer Super sleeves is the only one with an esp but I was easily able to add it to my conflict patch without problems. Warmth is the best of the three, IMO, but the others do add a few armors, such as heavy, that Warmth doesn't touch.

Hey Darth and Lexy. I stopped using AGO because it conflicts with a couple perks in Ordinator but I see the latest CR has it as a master. Can you save me some time and let me know what records they are so I can remove them? Thanks.