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Also, another way to look at it is that you get more grass for the SAME fps. For example, FPS-wise, a value of 75 with GoS is the same as a value of 20 with vanilla/SFO. GoS basically made the grass denser at higher grass values.Â

Looks a lot better to me but unfortunately I'm not willing to give up 16 fps for it :-/. I'm already at 28 - 45 fps in some exterior locations. That's why I liked Grass on Steroids. Because you got much more dense grass for the same performance cost :-/. Hopefully the author will update it soon.

Vurt, is there any way you can post a screenshot of the same location with IMinGrassSize=10 with the fps? I'm just wondering how much of a performance loss that would cause. Maybe IMinGrassSize=15 also.

Yea, I was using it to get MORE grass for less of a performance decrease, haha. I wonder if using v185 WITHOUT GoS and just lowering the grass density value to 10 instead of 20 will kill fps.Â

I think it's probably best to just stop using GoS until the mod author updates it. If you use a maxgrassvalue of 10 instead of the default 20, it might provide the same effect but I'm not sure about the fps decrease. The author seems like he/she isn't updating the mod anymore so that mod might just die off :-/.

Hm. I've been using 183b and GOS and I haven't noticed anything wrong. Can you provide a link to the forum page where people are saying that?Sorry I should've said that those comments are made on the GoS comment section. Just open page one and then it starts with a comment from crimsongekko. It starts with: Is that patch for imingrasssize=75? Or does it not matter? This seems out of my league. Hopefully the author will just patch it.

So what exactly is the problem with SFO and GoS right now? I've been using the recommended grass density of 75 with Grass on Steroids. What should it be now with the new SFO? Do we really need to patch it manually like that? Vurt, are you saying that you do not think Grass on Steroids is needed anymore since your new 184/185 versions added more Grass Density?

Hm. I've been using 183b and GOS and I haven't noticed anything wrong. Can you provide a link to the forum page where people are saying that?

Fair enough. I trust that you all looked into all LoD mods and chose the best ones. Do you happen to know why this particular one was not chosen?Â

Just wondering what was decided with this mod. It hasn't been brought up here since 2012.

v185 basic and regular versions are out

A much easier way, as I said before, would be just to save, quit to menu, load your game, then fast travel.

Got it. Thanks. One more thing. The basic version requires iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6 but the v183 update says to use iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7. If we are using the basic version with the v183 update, should we use iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6 or iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7?Â

I haven't noticed much of a performance decrease either. I used to use this when it was included in S.T.E.P., before we started using Skyrim Performance Plus. Smile, which version of Quality Snowflakes are you using? HD, Alt, or Luminous?Â

Still recommend Basic v181b for STEP with Recolored LOD. 183 update should work, but still use the 181b LOD unless you are using the Regular 182 as a base .. then you would use the Regulare 182/3 Recolored LODGot it, thanks. And what about Renn's DTTL? Is that just a work in progress? I know Skyrim Revisited uses it.

Yeah full I mean :P Time for a coffee ;) I've already had a coffee and a diet mountain dew at work so I'm pretty wired on Caffeine. So apparently if you use the regular version of SFO and combine it with Skyrim Bigger Trees or a different incompatible LoD mod, it will cause LoD problems. I found this as a possible fix. Do you think this would work? "Nice but the 1st suggestion did nothing for the split/floating tree lods using 179e. Back to using Vurt's Flora basic edition I guess. Edit: Pffft, it's not optimal but I found a simple, if not barbaric solution for the split/floating tree LODs when using Vurt's 179e or summer ed. Delete ----> Skyrim\Data\Textures\terrain\Tamriel\trees\tamrieltreelod.dds or replace it with the tamrieltreelod.dds from the basic edition."

When you say lower in the install order, do you mean have it installed right BEFORE the v183 update? Also, which LoD mods are you using? Just the ones included with STEP? So enhanced distance terrain/enhanced distnce terrain 2/HD Enhanced Terrain/high quality lods? EDIT: Wait, STEP doesn't have Detailed Terrain and Tree LoD? I was talking about the Recolored Pines/LoD optional on Vurt's page. Are those the same thing? ow wait I linked you the wrong post lol. Can't find the other anymore. Install order is: 181b 183 patch recolored pines and LOD recolored pines & Detailed Terrain and Tree LOD are not the same thing. What is being worked on is that they mix and match nicely together (afaik). I use only the terrain noise lod texture from Renn's Detailed Terrain and Tree mod (which is better than Enhanced Distant Terrain imo) but not the others textures. ALso on my current install I have absolutely zero other distance/terrain/lod enhancement mods. I found them to be the cause of most of my ILS and also random CTD's. Can only speak for myself though, they cause issues for some people but not for others. I personally don't look that often in the distant, unless I'm standing on a mountain or other high place. But I won't risk my game to become unstable for those few seconds of panorama :) Oh. I guess Ren's DTTL is still a work in progress...that's why it's not included in STEP yet? I think I understand. Are you using the Basic Version too?

Nice. I would love to go to Sweden.Â

Sorry, but I don't understand. Are those optional recolored pines/lods on Vurt's page the same thing as Renn's Detailed Terrain and Tree LoD?

Is he from America? I feel like most of the hardcore Skyrim modders are european. Anyway, hopefully I still have the most current version of ELE. I'm currently using it with EFLX. I ended up deleting the further darker dungeons for ENB and I'm not using ELFX enhancer.

Ok. I think I might try another DoF then. Any suggestions? Idk how to tweak them or else I would just change it myself.

Got it. Has JawZ made any other popular mods? I haven't heard the name before I randomly started seeing ELE Imagespace news everywhere. Yes, he worked on Relighting Skyrim a lot, but took a break from modding ;) (you don't). Now he works on ELE, which will make Relighting Skyrim redundant. Lot of double work if you ask me. He did a lot of other work as well, and written a very usefull ENB guide. Once he's finished with ELE, do you think it will replace ELFX/RLO? Or is it designed to work alongside of them?

When you say lower in the install order, do you mean have it installed right BEFORE the v183 update? Also, which LoD mods are you using? Just the ones included with STEP? So enhanced distance terrain/enhanced distnce terrain 2/HD Enhanced Terrain/high quality lods? EDIT: Wait, STEP doesn't have Detailed Terrain and Tree LoD? I was talking about the Recolored Pines/LoD optional on Vurt's page. Are those the same thing?