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Need help with CTD's, shortening load order, etc.

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Here is the problems I am having:

 

I generally crash outside in the Skyrim world.  One of my main areas that I have problems is the Embershard Mine.  I usually crash near here either by running on the road, going to fight the bandit sitting outside, or looting the dead bandit's body.  There is generally a whole host of problems near this area.  I am not sure why, as there's nothing that should directly change this area.

 

I sometimes crash when defeated after the downed state in Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life.  

 

I would also like help in merging some plug-ins if any of you know which of my plug-ins would be safe to merge together.

 

Here is my pc specs:

https://wiki.step-project.com/User:KroganBloodrage/SystemSpecs

 

Here is my load order: https://pastebin.com/download.php?i=BnYmrh9N

 

 

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
moonpath.esm
SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
daymoyl.esm
GeneralStores.esm
Nock2Tip.esm
SPODUM.esm
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
01ERA.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp
ETaC - Falkreath.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
3DNPC.esp
ETaC - Morthal.esp
ETaC - Dawnstar.esp
Weapons & Armor.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
ETaC - Winterhold.esp
ETaC - Rorikstead.esp
ETaC - Riverwood.esp
DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
JorrvaskrEnhanced.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp
ThievesGuildHideoutRedone.esp
ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp
ETaC - Ivarstead.esp
MoreBanditCamps.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
OBIS.esp
OBISDB.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Pureweather.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp
WAO-WeatherAndAmbienceOverhaul.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Immersive Whiterun.esp
ACE Merged.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
Morskom.esp
ETaC - Karthwasten.esp
ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp
Hunting in Skyrim.esp
Animal Tweaks.esp
Babette.esp
BardSoundsMalukah.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp
Better Vampires.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
VioLens.esp
CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
High Level Enemies.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
Immersive Stonehills.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Cloaks.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
Immersive Shors Stone.esp
DragonmournInn.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Inigo.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
SkyUI.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Epic Music Overhaul.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
GuildStarter.esp
HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
Headtracking.esp
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp
Housecarlsrevamp.esp
iHUD.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
NorthernCardinal.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
AesirArmor.esp
BlackreachRailroadNew.esp
daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
Hunterborn.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Aethernautics.esp
iNeed.esp
Bear.esp
HothFollower.esp
vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp
SPODUM v1.5.esp
dovahkiinrelax.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
JaxonzUtilities.esp
Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp
JR's Lee.esp
KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
LPSleep.esp
NB-Scars.esp
No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp
Nock2Tip.esp
NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp
PermaZONES.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
Removals.esp
Sit Anywhere.esp
Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp
SplashofRain.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
Thanatos Dragonx.esp
The Coenaculi.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
Dwemer Spectres Legendary.esp
UltimateCombat.esp
WearableLute.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
da_alternate_start_extension.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Automatic Variants.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

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Not had time to do a full check, but people crashing around Embershard is apparently not unusual. IE you're not the first I've heard of.

 

Very quick one I can see is that you can save one esp slot by removing Wet and Cold, Wet and Cold Ashes and Wet and Cold Holidays and upgrading to the new Wet and Cold which has Ashes built in, and Isoku's Holidays mod, which is essentially Wet and Cold Holidays stand alone.

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Ok.  I haven't checked out the new Wet And Cold, so I will download that.  And I will check out Isoku's Holidays Mod.  Thanks for the tips Nozzer.  And that's really strange that one area of the game can cause so much trouble for more than just me.  Had to know what is going on there then.  =/

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Having another look...

 

ETAC stuff usually combines pretty well. I believe MissJennabee has a how to on the ETAC page somewhere. 

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You are using both Climates of Tamriel and Pure Weather? Those are both weather and lighting mods and should be incompatible. Choose only one weather overhaul. I switched from CoT to Pure Weather because CoT had weird performance impact and the weathers weren't varied at all.

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he's using wao for one and people can use two weather mods if they patch it which is what wao does.

COT's and PW's style are very different different.

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Hello there.

 

Here are two things you might want to look for :

 

1) GPU overload. With both skyTEST (which add new variants of animals by himself and increae their numbers) and AV (which add a lot of them dynamically via skyproc), plus ETaC, I wouldn't be surprised if you bloated you VRAM, especially if you play with high uGrisToLoad (I believe that at 7, Riverwood should start rendering when youre around embershard mine... considering the weight of ETaC on performances... I think you get the point).
Considering your specs, you should however to get arround with that if you carefully tweak ini settings for both skyrimprefs and enblocal.

 

Trying to disable AV or reducing uGridToLoad if you have them higher than 5 should help you troobleshoot this. (Just remember that when it comes to memory overload, a "one time passed test" don't mean much...)

 

2) Try disabling SkyTEST. I don't have any technical explaination to backup what I'm about to say, so I won't extends much.
SkyTEST is modifying some "movement type" records so some animals walks/run/swim faster or slower. This kind of modification is currently undocumented afaik. Considering the mess with everything related to animations in Skyrim, I wouldn't be surprised if it generated some issues for the game engine when the speed of the animation files isn't designed for what's mentionned in the plugins.

But as I said first, it's just a guess, or rather an intuition. I'm pretty sure I also had some issue at the time I was trying mod such as those modifying the walking speed. But I just really cannot confirm that this is a fact and not an impression. Your problem might aswell lie elsewhere.

 

 

As for your crashes when defeated, make sure you updated to the last version of NiOverride (included in RaceMenu 3.2.2), there was a lot of issue when the people went into the "dying" state, especially with XPMSE. It now seems completely fixed.

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Not had time to do a full check, but people crashing around Embershard is apparently not unusual. IE you're not the first I've heard of.

 

Very quick one I can see is that you can save one esp slot by removing Wet and Cold, Wet and Cold Ashes and Wet and Cold Holidays and upgrading to the new Wet and Cold which has Ashes built in, and Isoku's Holidays mod, which is essentially Wet and Cold Holidays stand alone.

Wet & cold 2.0 still has 2 esps.

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