Need help with CTD's, shortening load order, etc.

[KroganBloodrage]

Here is the problems I am having:

 

I generally crash outside in the Skyrim world.  One of my main areas that I have problems is the Embershard Mine.  I usually crash near here either by running on the road, going to fight the bandit sitting outside, or looting the dead bandit's body.  There is generally a whole host of problems near this area.  I am not sure why, as there's nothing that should directly change this area.

 

I sometimes crash when defeated after the downed state in Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life.  

 

I would also like help in merging some plug-ins if any of you know which of my plug-ins would be safe to merge together.

 

Here is my pc specs:

https://wiki.step-project.com/User:KroganBloodrage/SystemSpecs

 

Here is my load order: https://pastebin.com/download.php?i=BnYmrh9N

 

 

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

moonpath.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

daymoyl.esm

GeneralStores.esm

Nock2Tip.esm

SPODUM.esm

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

01ERA.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp

ETaC - Falkreath.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS.esp

3DNPC.esp

ETaC - Morthal.esp

ETaC - Dawnstar.esp

Weapons & Armor.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

ETaC - Winterhold.esp

ETaC - Rorikstead.esp

ETaC - Riverwood.esp

DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp

JorrvaskrEnhanced.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge.esp

ThievesGuildHideoutRedone.esp

ETaC - Kynesgrove.esp

ETaC - Ivarstead.esp

MoreBanditCamps.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

Pureweather.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp

WAO-WeatherAndAmbienceOverhaul.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

ACE Merged.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

Morskom.esp

ETaC - Karthwasten.esp

ETaC - Darkwater Crossing.esp

Hunting in Skyrim.esp

Animal Tweaks.esp

Babette.esp

BardSoundsMalukah.esp

Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp

Stealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.esp

Better Vampires.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

VioLens.esp

CombatDramaOverhaul.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

High Level Enemies.esp

WetandCold - Holidays.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Cloaks.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp

Immersive Shors Stone.esp

DragonmournInn.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Inigo.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

SkyUI.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

Epic Music Overhaul.esp

Eyes of Aber.esp

fallentreebridges.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp

GuildStarter.esp

HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp

Headtracking.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp

High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp

Housecarlsrevamp.esp

iHUD.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

NorthernCardinal.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp

WheelsOfLull.esp

AesirArmor.esp

BlackreachRailroadNew.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

Hunterborn.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Aethernautics.esp

iNeed.esp

Bear.esp

HothFollower.esp

vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp

CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp

SPODUM v1.5.esp

dovahkiinrelax.esp

ELFX - Moonpath.esp

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

JaxonzUtilities.esp

Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp

JR's Lee.esp

KJ Tattoos 2K.esp

Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

LPSleep.esp

NB-Scars.esp

No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp

Nock2Tip.esp

NotSoFast-MainQuest.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp

NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp

OBISDB-FaceMasksFix.esp

PermaZONES.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

Removals.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp

SplashofRain.esp

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp

Thanatos Dragonx.esp

The Coenaculi.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

Dwemer Spectres Legendary.esp

UltimateCombat.esp

WearableLute.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

da_alternate_start_extension.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Automatic Variants.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

[Nozzer66]

Not had time to do a full check, but people crashing around Embershard is apparently not unusual. IE you're not the first I've heard of.

 

Very quick one I can see is that you can save one esp slot by removing Wet and Cold, Wet and Cold Ashes and Wet and Cold Holidays and upgrading to the new Wet and Cold which has Ashes built in, and Isoku's Holidays mod, which is essentially Wet and Cold Holidays stand alone.

[KroganBloodrage]

Ok.  I haven't checked out the new Wet And Cold, so I will download that.  And I will check out Isoku's Holidays Mod.  Thanks for the tips Nozzer.  And that's really strange that one area of the game can cause so much trouble for more than just me.  Had to know what is going on there then.  =/

[Nozzer66]

Having another look...

 

ETAC stuff usually combines pretty well. I believe MissJennabee has a how to on the ETAC page somewhere. 

[EntropyZ]

You are using both Climates of Tamriel and Pure Weather? Those are both weather and lighting mods and should be incompatible. Choose only one weather overhaul. I switched from CoT to Pure Weather because CoT had weird performance impact and the weathers weren't varied at all.

Edited June 1, 2015 by EntropyZ

[hishutup]

he's using wao for one and people can use two weather mods if they patch it which is what wao does.

COT's and PW's style are very different different.

[Kesta]

Hello there.

 

Here are two things you might want to look for :

 

1) GPU overload. With both skyTEST (which add new variants of animals by himself and increae their numbers) and AV (which add a lot of them dynamically via skyproc), plus ETaC, I wouldn't be surprised if you bloated you VRAM, especially if you play with high uGrisToLoad (I believe that at 7, Riverwood should start rendering when youre around embershard mine... considering the weight of ETaC on performances... I think you get the point).
Considering your specs, you should however to get arround with that if you carefully tweak ini settings for both skyrimprefs and enblocal.

 

Trying to disable AV or reducing uGridToLoad if you have them higher than 5 should help you troobleshoot this. (Just remember that when it comes to memory overload, a "one time passed test" don't mean much...)

 

2) Try disabling SkyTEST. I don't have any technical explaination to backup what I'm about to say, so I won't extends much.
SkyTEST is modifying some "movement type" records so some animals walks/run/swim faster or slower. This kind of modification is currently undocumented afaik. Considering the mess with everything related to animations in Skyrim, I wouldn't be surprised if it generated some issues for the game engine when the speed of the animation files isn't designed for what's mentionned in the plugins.

But as I said first, it's just a guess, or rather an intuition. I'm pretty sure I also had some issue at the time I was trying mod such as those modifying the walking speed. But I just really cannot confirm that this is a fact and not an impression. Your problem might aswell lie elsewhere.

 

 

As for your crashes when defeated, make sure you updated to the last version of NiOverride (included in RaceMenu 3.2.2), there was a lot of issue when the people went into the "dying" state, especially with XPMSE. It now seems completely fixed.

[darkside]

Not had time to do a full check, but people crashing around Embershard is apparently not unusual. IE you're not the first I've heard of.

 

Very quick one I can see is that you can save one esp slot by removing Wet and Cold, Wet and Cold Ashes and Wet and Cold Holidays and upgrading to the new Wet and Cold which has Ashes built in, and Isoku's Holidays mod, which is essentially Wet and Cold Holidays stand alone.

Wet & cold 2.0 still has 2 esps.