Hanging on Main Menu

[Asharn]

I have just completed all the steps for the core guide and was ready to move onto the extended one but now the game won't let me progress pass the main menu as none of the options load and the skyrim logo isn't spinning. 

 

I am using Mod Organizer and this only started happening after I got past the patch's step. 

 

I can't work out how to get my load order from mod organizer otherwise I would post it here as well but there is no other mods added right now besides the ones included in step.

 

 

[Nozzer66]

First thing I'd do is load TESV Edit, load all plugins and see if that throws any error or issue out at you.

Edited July 27, 2014 by Nozzer66

[redirishlord]

Re- load order: run LOOT, copy & paste report into spoiler tag on this forum.

 

Re- TES5Edit: what Nozzer said, but if that doesn't stop and report an error then it's probably down to trial & error. Pull mods one at a time from your load order and try to launch, if you get the start menu you've probably found the culprit. STEP Core / Extended mods should be safe, anything you've tweaked in the CK would be the best place to start, then merged plugins, then patch mods, etc. Skyrim is "choking" on  one of your mods, nothing to do but suss out which one.

[Asharn]

After going over everything and re doing the guide I worked out that the mod that is causing the freezing on the main menu is the STEP Extended patch. I went to the extended guild and grabed any mods I was missing I'm pretty sure. 

 

Here is the load order.

 

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• Skyrim.esm
  CRC: C665FD56
• Update.esm
  CRC: 1FDAB215
  Delev, Relev
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
  CRC: 4A395AFA
  Version: 2.0.5a
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• Dawnguard.esm
  CRC: 7A481404
  Delev, Relev
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
  CRC: A3FDFD8D
  Version: 2.0.5
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• HearthFires.esm
  CRC: F4DDC851
• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
  CRC: DF1E97D
  Version: 2.0.5
  Names
• Dragonborn.esm
  CRC: A46CA360
• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
  CRC: FB2715AC
  Version: 2.0.5
  Delev
• Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
  CRC: FE33A011
• Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  CRC: AC4A653A
• HighResTexturePack01.esp
  CRC: D596F02A
• HighResTexturePack02.esp
  CRC: D596F02A
• HighResTexturePack03.esp
  CRC: D596F02A
• Cutting Room Floor.esp
  CRC: 6A765402
  Version: 1.0.7
• Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
  CRC: 4B399546
• Beards.esp
  CRC: 85B4CEFA
  Version: 28363
• Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
  CRC: E9D5C12B
• BFSEffects.esp
  CRC: 543D56D4
  Version: 3.6
• Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
  CRC: AFACD2E9
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
  CRC: 70139025
  Version: 4.1
  Delev, Relev
• Soul Gems Differ.esp
  CRC: 4F02E2D7
• Moss Rocks.esp
  CRC: 40AB761A
• ORM-Arvak.esp
  CRC: EAE05BDD
• ClamsDropPearls.esp
  CRC: FC8EBCE9
• Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
  CRC: 3A253C5D
• BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
  CRC: 66E9EC89
• Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
  CRC: B473FA3
• ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
  CRC: C730D9F6
• Dead Body Collision.esp
  CRC: B8B71CA1
• BWS.esp
  CRC: D596F02A
• Traps Make Noise.esp
  CRC: 8777E2C7
• Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
  CRC: 6C0E1257
  • Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp.
• Elemental Staves.esp
  CRC: B0462604
• Footprints.esp
  CRC: BFAF15E8
• Convenient Horses.esp
  CRC: A2C92D5C
  Version: 14950
  • Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
• Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
  CRC: C4ED7762
• Lock Overhaul.esp
  CRC: 3FB2EDFA
• Brows.esp
  CRC: 767A76B7
  Version: 30411
• NoxUE2.00.esp
  CRC: D62F798B
• dynamic fires.esp
  CRC: 1D4A64C7
• RaceMenuPlugin.esp
  CRC: 8A8A009F
  • Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
• Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
  CRC: F7B2BC5
  Version: 5.0
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• AOS.esp
  CRC: D4F2924F
• Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
  CRC: 399C31A9
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• ADS.esp
  CRC: 73426A08
• dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
  CRC: 7AFD4E3E
  • Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch Dawnguard + Dragonborn.
• IHSS.esp
  CRC: 8E27DF44
• Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
  CRC: 175581E1
  Version: 1.3
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
  CRC: A4E43BB4
  Version: 1.5
  Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
• SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
  CRC: C442A94F
  Delev
• DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
  CRC: 455C0C6A
• RaceMenu.esp
  CRC: 2765B7D0
• SMDropLitTorch.esp
  CRC: 1D97B006
• Footprints - Ash.esp
  CRC: D3E16A61
• Moss Rocks_DB.esp
  CRC: 367B849A
• ShootingStars.esp
  CRC: 5B89D5C9
  Version: 1.041
• SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
  CRC: 3A2624E4
  Version: 3.0.esp
• RealisticWaterTwo.esp
  CRC: A505BEA9
  Version: 1.11
• Distant DetailHF.esp
  CRC: 716CD1C4
• Bring Out Your Dead.esp
  CRC: F9A54B0A
  Version: 1.2.7
• SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
  CRC: 67874D7E
  Version: 2.2
  • Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.
• Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
  CRC: E688076D
• BirdsHFclean.esp
  CRC: 3354E095
• RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
  CRC: A0056AE4
• SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
  CRC: B1293726
• Run For Your Lives.esp
  CRC: B7BAFE68
  Version: 2.0.3
• Point The Way.esp
  CRC: 9897B7B4
  Version: 1.0.3
• SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
  CRC: D0427B6
  Version: 1.1
  • Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.
• SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
  CRC: AACFD505
• HearthfireChimneys.esp
  CRC: 4A8AC3A
• Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
  CRC: 70A70428
• PilgrimsDelight.esp
  CRC: 2C24D5A5
• SkyUI.esp
  CRC: 9330CAF7
  Version: 4.1
• TradeBarter.esp
  CRC: AC24F58B
  Delev, Relev
• Dual Sheath Redux.esp
  CRC: 10FAFEDD
  • Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
• DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
  CRC: BD3A207D
• Rainbows.esp
  CRC: 547F5D56
  Version: 1.05
• fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
  CRC: CC1A0B4E
  Version: 1.0
• WetandCold.esp
  CRC: BEAB0A2F
  Version: 1.422
• WetandCold - Ashes.esp
  CRC: 1510365E
  Version: 1.09
• When Vampires Attack.esp
  CRC: 5A2E37CC
  Version: 2.0.2
• aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
  CRC: EEDD984B
• BetterQuestObjectives.esp
  CRC: C71C862D
• Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
  CRC: 8617DA3B
• The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
  CRC: 9BA892A1
  Version: 1.2.8
• BlockSparkles.esp
  CRC: 7EA628AA
• Gildergreen Regrown.esp
  CRC: 5111AD5F
  Version: 1.2.6
• SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
  CRC: B1BD0CA6
• TheChoiceIsYours.esp
  CRC: 8BD6B852
• BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
  CRC: E541BD99
• BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
  CRC: 40EF5329
• BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
  CRC: EB7D5B73
• STEP Extended Patch.esp
  CRC: 51062F0D
  Version: 2.2.9
• CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp
  CRC: BDF1F41A
  Version: 1.5
  Delev, Relev
• BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
  CRC: A9808D92
• Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
  CRC: 7A15383C
• BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
  CRC: A0DE34CC
• DragonShoutVoice.esp
  CRC: DB709B74
• BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp
  CRC: D5DF05E0
• Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
  CRC: EA5CBC81
• Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
  CRC: 7409094B
• SFO - Dragonborn.esp
  CRC: C9DB0844
• NonEssentialChildren.esp
  CRC: BAE841DB
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• BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
  CRC: F3B7F3F1
• Paralyze.esp
  CRC: B60BC46D
• Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
  CRC: EA004B82
• iHUD.esp
  CRC: 6098B756
• mintylightningmod.esp
  CRC: 83F77041
• randomthunder.esp
  CRC: 1058BBB4
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp
  CRC: AB331779
  Version: 61
• Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[bur]

Install the latest version of Java, see if that helps. I think some mods require Java 8.

[Asharn]

I tried it and it didn't help. Pretty sure the java is for the Duel Stealth Redux Patch and not for in game stuff but I could be wrong. 

[Neovalen]

  On 7/28/2014 at 4:06 AM, Asharn said:

I tried it and it didn't help. Pretty sure the java is for the Duel Stealth Redux Patch and not for in game stuff but I could be wrong. 

That is correct, only for the patcher.

[DoubleYou]

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp is missing a master, and also is not necessary for STEP Extended. Indeed, you seem to have a number of plugins rendered unnecessary by the STEP Extended Patch. In addition, your load order is wrong. Make sure you add the LOOT rules and sort through the LOOT application (internal LOOT is an older version).

[Asharn]

The BetterQuestObejctives optional mods that are missing a master are deactivated, I just haven't be able to remove them from the list and I assume they aren't affecting anything. Which plugin's don't I need since they are in STEP Extended? When following the core guide I didn't add any that said they were included in the patch unless there is another page listing which ones are made arbitrary.What LOOT rules do I need to add and how do I add them? I can't remember seeing any on both the LOOT wiki page or the Core guide. 

Thanks for the help. 

Edited July 29, 2014 by Asharn

[DoubleYou]

The unnecessary plugins are listed on the STEP Patches page.

 

The mods with LOOT rules are mentioned on the top of the Bashed Patch page. Visit each page and add the LOOT rules. Clicking the Meta Rule something or another will take you to a short guide to adding LOOT rules.

[Asharn]

Still didn't work. Went through and added the LOOT rules and removed the unnecessary plugins. 

[gpthree]

I've started to get this issue a lot lately and mine is usually a result of it just not liking my merged plugins. 

[DoubleYou]

  On 7/29/2014 at 1:57 PM, gpthree said:

I've started to get this issue a lot lately and mine is usually a result of it just not liking my merged plugins. 

Be careful with merging plugins with that popular script! It is not flawless!

@OP

Go to your Mod Organizer folder, enter profiles, your profile, copy and paste your plugins.txt here in spoilers.

[phazer11]

Yes do in fact be careful with the merge plugin but I'll give you something slightly more usefull (idk how long it's been since it was updated but it should give you an idea).

Link

[Asharn]

@DoubleYou

Here you go

 

 

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Beards.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

BFSEffects.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Soul Gems Differ.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

Footprints.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

Brows.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

dynamic fires.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

ADS.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

RaceMenu.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

ShootingStars.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

Point The Way.esp

HearthfireChimneys.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

SkyUI.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

Rainbows.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

IHSS.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

STEP Extended Patch.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

DragonShoutVoice.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp

Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Paralyze.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

iHUD.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

randomthunder.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[Nearox]

  On 7/29/2014 at 1:57 PM, gpthree said:

I've started to get this issue a lot lately and mine is usually a result of it just not liking my merged plugins. 

I have been experiencing this as well. EVen if everything loads up in tes5edit, the game just hangs at the main menu.  Disabling the merged plugin (or look for errors) solves it.