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Well everything seems (TOUCH WOOD!!!) to be going ok.....got myself my new GPU, my newly upgraded and updated skyrim runnning very well with textures and ENB....now i gotta hope someone can fix the damn 3.1Gb thing....so annoying. had to lower all my textures down

Ive been looking around trying to find a way of limiting my skyrims. RAM usage...i was thinking if i could limit it to say...2.9GB then i could keep the huge textures and not have to worry about this 3.1Gb issue. Ive found the papyrus tweaks.....iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=3113851289 (2.9 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024) But it doesnt seem to do anything..... Am i just flogging a dead horse here, or am i missing something.

The only tweaks i have made to my ini`s are the ones STEP recommends. And using skyrim config i have set all of the "threaded" options. But i`ll try taking off the WTF mod and see if that helps. Seems im getting the "invisible birds" thing DanielCoffey mentions above.

Didnt think i needed the compat patches for skyre when reproccer was about. Mind you didnt read that page properly either and noticed it says REPROCCER PATCHES!!! lol i did spot in the forum page you postede they say to get rid of a couple of mods...so i`ll give that a go

@Brighty As DanielCoffey says, SKYre doesnt touch the dawnguard perks at all, the dev says he wont make it that way either coz there are so many other mods that do a great job. I suppose i could get rid of Better Sorting, but i dont get any issues from that mod, i only get crashed when entering/leaving interior cells, random freezing, and crashes while going about my buisiness during gameplay. I did include a link to the full size picture so you can see.....ive only got about 20 mods that are not in STEP. And now i`ve found the papyrus logging feature, ive already remove a couple of mods... But now from what i can see from the logs (and ive posted them above) its comming from the sounds...FXBirdFlee....this is being listed as form the main skyrim esm aswell....so my current choice is to go through the STEP bsa optimizing tutorials, and get the bethesda bsa`s all sorted.

OK since my last post 5 CTDs, Real Shelter (CoT version) kicking out LOADS of issues...so thats gone... Apprentice of Thuum also gone..... But im still having random freezing and CTDs....but all coming from ... [04/21/2013 - 05:44:41PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D stack: [ (000BCD35)].Sound.Play() - "" Line ? [ (2400347E)].FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.OnCellAttach() - "FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.psc" Line 19 [04/21/2013 - 05:44:42PM] Error: Attempting to stop an invalid sound instance stack: .Sound.StopInstance() - "" Line ? [ (2400347E)].FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.OnTriggerEnter() - "FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.psc" Line 33 -----------------------------CTD-------------------------------- Reloaded the game and tried with ATTK light... [04/21/2013 - 06:00:32PM] Error: Object reference has no 3D stack: [ (000BCD35)].Sound.Play() - "" Line ? [ (0010C337)].FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.OnCellAttach() - "FXBirdFleeSCRIPT.psc" Line 19 [04/21/2013 - 06:01:08PM] Warning: (3A00E57F): Ref is in an unloaded cell, so it cannot cast spells.. stack: [ (8F01F222)].SPELL.Cast() - "" Line ? [Active effect 3 on (3A00E57F)].zbloodnpcbleed.OnHit() - "zbloodnpcbleed.psc" Line ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sooooo......looking at that it seems to me im getting freezes from the sounds glitching...looks like im gonna have no choice but to go through the DDSopt procedures...

Well, im a **** Ive just found out about papyrus logging....ROFL So gonna set that up and play through for a while, i`ll save my crash logs and report back .....Maybe i can figure it out and help someone else in the process

Im getting these issues to mate.... https://forum.step-project.com/showthread.php?tid=2350 If you find anything let me know....i`ll do the same..... Some days i can play for 2-3 hours without CTD, but others i cant go 10 mins. Nothing seems to be the culprit....but i have noticed 1 thign in these forums.....alot of people wiht our issue are using SKYre, but i just simply REFUSE to remove that awesome mod

Oh and before someone says, i was having this problem on my old GPU (GTX 275) My system still had 8Gb of RAM but the game never used up more than 2Gb...so im not having the 3-4Gb RAM issue...this is seperate

OK guys, im coming here coz i cant think of anywhere else to go..... I`ve just got myself a new GPU (ASUS 4Gb GTX 670), but even before that i was getting these annoying CTDs. My game is running with all the DLC`s, and fully updated. I am running most of STEP with a few extra non-step mods mixed in. To be fair my mod list a bit huge, but i figure that STEP has trialed and tested these mods to perfection. Here is my current load list, taken from Wrye Bash....i have my mods prefixed with the STEP sections ans "S" for STEP "NS" for non-STEP mods... [/img] My load order is as follows... (0)   Skyrim.esm    (1)   Update.esm    (2)   Dawnguard.esm    (3)   HearthFires.esm    (4)   Dragonborn.esm    (5)   ApachiiHair.esm    (6)   Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm    (7)   ClimatesOfTamriel.esm    (8)   ETaC - RESOURCES.esm    (9)   Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm    (10)   moonpath.esm    (11)   SPIKE.esm    (12)   HighResTexturePack01.esp    (13)   HighResTexturePack02.esp    (14)   HighResTexturePack03.esp    (15)   Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp    (16)   Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp    (17)   Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp    (18)   Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp    (19)   Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp    (20)   Better Dynamic Snow.esp    (21)   Rainbows.esp    (22)   BWS.esp    (23)   Clanking Armor.esp    (24)   IHSS.esp    (25)   Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp    (26)   Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp    (27)   mintylightningmod.esp    (28)   MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp    (29)   StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp    (30)   83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp    (31)   ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp    (32)   Ars Metallica.esp    (33)   Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp    (34)   Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp    (35)   Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp    (36)   Auto Unequip Helmet.esp    (37)   BirdsHFclean.esp    (38)   Birdsofskyrim.esp    (39)   BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp    (40)   Bring Out Your Dead.esp    (41)   Chesko_WearableLantern.esp    (42)   Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp    (43)   Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp    (44)   Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp    (45)   dbmisc.esp    (46)   Dead Body Collision.esp    (47)   Disease Descriptions.esp    (48)   DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp    (49)   DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp    (50)   Dual Sheath Redux.esp    (51)   DungeonQuestAwareness.esp    (52)   fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp    (53)   Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp    (54)   Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp    (55)   Moss Rocks.esp    (56)   ORM-Arvak.esp    (57)   Point The Way.esp    (58)   Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp    (59)   RealShelter.esp    (60)   Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp    (61)   ShootingStars.esp    (62)   Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp    (63)   SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp    (64)   SMDropLitTorch.esp    (65)   SwiftPotion.esp    (66)   Convenient Horses.esp    (67)   Auto Unequip Ammo.esp    (68)   Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp    (69)   Footprints.esp    (70)   Footprints - Ash.esp    (71)   RaceMenu.esp    (72)   RaceMenuPlugin.esp    (73)   WetandCold.esp    (74)   WetandCold - Ashes.esp    (75)   SkyUI.esp    (76)   iHUD.esp    (77)   aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp    (78)   BDYEB.esp    (79)   Cloaks.esp    (80)   Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp    (81)   1nivWICCloaks.esp    (82)   1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp    (83)   DragonbornArmorFix.esp    (84)   Elemental Staves.esp    (85)   ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp    (86)   hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp    (87)   imp_helm.esp    (88)   imp_helm_imp.esp    (89)   imp_helm_dawn.esp    (90)   Remodeled Armor.esp    (91)   Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp    (92)   Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp    (93)   viciousdawnbreaker.esp    (94)   ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp    (95)   Lock Overhaul.esp    (96)   DeadlyDragons.esp    (97)   MIDFollowMeCloser.esp    (98)   SkyRe_Main.esp    (99)   SkyRe_Combat.esp    (100)   SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp    (101)   SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp    (102)   SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp    (103)   SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp    (104)   SkyRe_StandingStones.esp    (105)   Beautiful Whiterun.esp    (106)   Gildergreen Regrown.esp    (107)   moonpath_questdata.esp    (108)   RealisticWhiterun.esp    (109)   Run For Your Lives.esp    (110)   When Vampires Attack.esp    (111)   SkyrimChimneysRW.esp    (112)   The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp    (113)   SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp    (114)   360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp    (115)   AchieveThat.esp    (116)   Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp    (117)   BetterQuestObjectives.esp    (118)   BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp    (119)   BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp    (120)   BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp    (121)   BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp    (122)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp    (123)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp    (124)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp    (125)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp    (126)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp    (127)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (Ranked).esp    (128)   Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp    (129)   Better Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp    (130)   BetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp    (131)   BlockSparkles.esp    (132)   Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp    (133)   Distant DetailHF.esp    (134)   DiversePriests.esp    (135)   dynamic fires.esp    (136)   Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp    (137)   Immersive Weapons.esp    (138)   masser Size x0.5.esp    (139)   dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp    (140)   NonEssentialChildren.esp    (141)   BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp    (142)   secunda Size x0.5.esp    (143)   SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp    (144)   dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp    (145)   dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp    (146)   Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp    (147)   ETaC - Villages Complete.esp    (148)   ETaC - Morthal.esp    (149)   AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp    (150)   Unique Region Names.esp    (151)   Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp    (152)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeon Lighting.esp    (153)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp    (154)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp    (155)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp    (156)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp    (157)   Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp    (158)   ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp    (159)   ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp    (160)   ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp    (161)   dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp    (162)   Predator Vision.esp    (163)   ToL_Core_by_Brevi.esp    (164)   WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp    (165)   Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp    (166)   BFSEffects.esp    (167)   DeadlySpellImpacts.esp    (168)   Realistic crime report radius.esp    (169)   Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp    (170)   DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp    (171)   The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp    (172)   vDynamicDifficulty.esp    (173)   GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp    (174)   Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp    (175)   Enhanced Soul Trap.esp    (176)   Soul Gems Differ - E.esp    (177)   Improved Dragon Shouts.esp    (178)   Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp    (179)   dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp    (180)   Beards.esp    (181)   Brows.esp    (182)   3DNPC.esp    (183)   ApprenticeOfThuum.esp    (184)   Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp    (185)   SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp    (186)   HousecarlWhiterun.esp    (187)   AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp    (188)   Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp    (189)   BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp    (190)   SkyRe_Races.esp    (191)   Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp    (192)   DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp    (193)   DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp    (194)   MVABasic.esp    (195)   MVAIvarstead.esp    (196)   MVARorikstead.esp    (197)   Animated Weapon Enchants.esp    (198)   DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp    (199)   WATER.esp    (200)   WATER Plants.esp    (201)   WATER DB Waves.esp    (202)   Bashed Patch, 0.esp    (203)   Automatic Variants.esp    (204)   ReProccer.esp    (205)   ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp    (206)   ReProccerDragonborn.esp    (207)   Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp    (208)   WTF.esp But what im getting is random CTDs....they are not reproducable at the same times, or places. They happen after 5mins, or after an hour, indoors or outdoors, talking to NPCs, or looking through inventories. There is nothing that i can rattle it down to. They just happen if and when they want. My system: i5 2500K OC`d to 4.2Ghz 8Gb Corsair RAM ASUS GTX 670 Windows 7 x64 (on 60Gb SSD) 1Tb HDD samsung (with all games and progs installed) Skyrim now running with top versions of all texture mods, and SKYrealism ENB fantasy config I have all of my textures and BSAs optimized with apipino`s Optimizer Textures. I cant really be bothered with the massive hooha of going through DDSopt. SKSE, TESV, and ATTK are all set to run as admin. I have tried running with attk, with just SKSE. Tried running the skyrim performance monitor and it shows me nothing. Restarted the game several times, re-installed several times, but i still get these random CTDs. They ar not related to anything i can find. Whenever i have found a reproducable CTD i have found the problem and removed the mod responsible. But now i am just left with these irritating crashes. sometime just when going in or out of building, sometimes during a fight, and sometimes just when im running around the world, sometimes when im riding around. There doesnt seem to be any reason for any of it. But it still happens. Does anyone have any ideas. Ive tried everything that i can find, and im still getting the problems

Kool, turns out footprints and wet&cold doesn`t like my mod list, i know they should be fine, but im playing with SkyRe and OMG that creates some irritations. @ciddative I know how to check for UDR`s with Wrye Bash, but it wont check for ITM`s. id there something im missing? a setting somewhere? What im doing is selecting all mods in the wrye bash mod list. right click and select scan for UDR,s. The resulting web page says, list with all UDR`s and ITM`s but only shows UDR`s. The same thing when i create BOSS report, shows me all the mods with UDR`s but tells me it can`t scn for ITM`s

@ciddative Sorry if this sounds like a total **** question. But what exactly do i do with TES5edit to test my load order, i know how to clean mods with it (and im only ever cleaning mods that boss says need it)

Grrr, damn this life of modding i`ve chosen!!!

i know im going to have to narrow the field down, but i dont want to.....thats childish i know BUT Sometimes i can play for hours without anything, then suddenly it will CTD 2 or 3 times in a row. Other times i can only get half hour of gameplay. So even if i do narrow it down with groups, im still looking at a good week of testing and playing the game, then fixing the error, and starting all over again. But i think it`s gonna have to be done

Im using AFT and never had any issues with it before, been uding it for ages, long before these issues. I know scripts have been mentioned before, but i honestly wouldn`t know where to begin checking those out. Removing footprints wounds like a plan though, would explain why its only outside and not reproduceable, (can`t step in the exact same spot everytime) What do you mean by TES5edit? Do i just load all the mods in one go and see what it says? coz ive done that and it says nothing. I know HiAlgo boost doesn`t fix CTD`s, i use it coz im on a **** gpu and can`t afford a new one. But it helps with frame rates when im pushing all the extra textures in, just though it might be a cause for the random CTD`s. I should also mention that i have just started a new game. I have no follower yet, infact all ive done is talk to the jarl in whiterun and head to Bleak Falls Barrow. Had 2 CTD`s one walking just outside riverwood on the road into riverwood (DID NOT REPRODUCE), and then another as i was climbing the hill to Bleak Falls barrow, riding a horse (DID NOT REPRODUCE) Both times without follower, by myself, no combat starting or ending, i wasn`t sheathing or drawing weapons/magic. I was just simply moving forward. Thats the thing that annoys me the most, if it was specific i could fix it, but this is just random and irritating

Well, i am thoroughly NOT IMPRESSED!!! Ive spent a while going through ALL of my mods. I have removed every single mod from that i can bare to live without. I am running a fair few mods yes, but 90% of those are from STEP and are all installed in the correct order and with the correct patches. Here is my new list of mods: I can play the game without any mods for hours and hours. And i have no issues. I have removed scriptdragon as i dont use it. I have stopped using ATTK but still use SKSE obv. I have made yet another full fresh install, and a full fresh game with freshly updated and installed mods. There has to be something going on that i cant figure out. Im thinking that maybe skyre, or possibly deadly dragons is conflicting with one of the step mods. I am going to take out HiAlgo boost now and see if that helps. My system is as follows: i5 2500k - OC`d to 4.3GHz (Running stable for a year now) GTX275 - not OC`d 8GB Corsair dominator RAM 1Tb samsung HDD 60Gb Crucial M4 used as cache with IRST. I have never had any problems with any of my hardware with any game or program EVER. I can run skyrim un-modded for days without it crashing but i want the added mods. There are possibly a couple more mods i can remove, like chimneysRW for eg. Im going to have another run through the mod list and take out what i can. But there are a few that i refuse to take out, skyre, deadly dragons, immersive weapons/armours. I need help figuring this out. I have the time available to try things out, but i am not going through each mod 1 by 1 and working it out. that will take months. There has to be something. My game just randomly decides to CTD only outdoors, outside of cities. walking or riding. combat or not. The only thing i can come up with is maybe sounds, or possibly the weather, but if that were the case then surely it would be reproducable? Please guys give me your help, im getting to the point where im just gonnasay f**k it and never play again

Hey guys, im having a bit of trouble finding an issue im having with my game, an i couldn`t think of anywhere better to ask. My issue is that im getting a few random CTD`s. But they only occur outside, and so far, only in the open (Not in cities) I am running the game with SKSE 1.6.6, script dragon, Dawnguard, and Hearthfires. I know its only a work in prog, but i have recently updated my build with the S.T.E.P. WIP. When i re-sorted my mods i did it on a fresh install, and began a new game once i was ready. I am using NMM to download and update check my mods, but i am using wrye bash to do the install. My mod list is a bit huge, but i have taken the SKSE list from \Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE... I have BOSS checked everything, and TesEDIT`d everything needed. But i just can`t figure out where the instability is comming from. I have already gone through the list and removed every mod that i can live without. I am even running the game with the ATTK loader, set with APW, and not using any memory defrag options, just incase that was it. But i am left with my issue, random outdoors CTD`s. I dont like to use fast travel so i can be spending a bit of time riding around from city to city. Every now and then as im riding it just CTD`s with no warning, no pause or anything. When i reload the game, i take the exact same route as i did before and it does not reproduce, so it cant be a static mod thats causing it. Im lost. I am also getting a wierd bit of rainbow pixalated animals in the wilderness aswell, but i think that could just be one my AV packages. If anyone could help me out it would be great.