Mod Organizer not launching properly?

[Morton]

Well as the title says Mod Organizer does not launch my New Vegas game properly.

I launch the game through NV4GB.exe with NVSE however that is not the problem. (the game is also launched from program files (steam))

First I will start with what happens when I try to launch the game. (for testing purposes I have close on launch turned off)

Also I use Process Hacker to see the process that start and under what process they start under.

When the game is launched the fnv4gb.exe starts under ModOrganizer.exe.

Shortly after that FalloutMO.exe is started under the fnv4gb.exe.

And the last exe is steamerrorreporter.exe popes up under FalloutMO.exe and  closes itself after a short while.

This is all that happens when I try to launch the game with my current setup.

 

Now when I try to launch the game with no mods except DarnUI the game will launch without problem.

Also I have tried to disable modes one at a time to see if it is a specific mod or mods is causing the problem.

Doing this has resulted in the game launching properly but the mods installed during the launches and failures is inconsistent and feels sorta random.

 

Also I have had a TTW install before and it was running just fine but I got tired of it removed it.

I then installed some more mods (about 2-4) and the game would no longer launch.

 

I have tried re-installing both the game and Mod Organizer.

I have also re-downloading all the mods.

I have checked to see if the virtual folder is created and it is.

I have NOT tried to replicate the problem in NMM because of the large amount of mods.

 

Here is my computer specs and load order for however much that helps.

 

Load Order

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVEC Complete + NVCE.esm

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm

[RWM]-Complete.esm

IWS-Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition_AWOP.esm

AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm

Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.esm

Momod.esm

PipboyRemover.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

CFWNV.esm

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esm

Sortomatic.esm

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

SaxxonsQuestPack.esm

Gomorrah Redesigned.esp

Niner.esm

NVWillow.esp

Sortomatic-AWOP.esm

The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

NevadaSkies.esm

Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm

More Perks.esm

Afterschool Special.esm

oHUD.esm

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

DYNAVISION 3.esp

PMPitems.esp

SPECIALforPMP.esp

AWOPDeadMoney.esp

DarNifiedUINV.esp

IWS-Core-Civilians.esp

AddKarmaWhenStealing.esp

CASM with MCM.esp

CanHasRecoil.esp

JIP Companions Command & Control.esp

PracticeMakesPerfect.esp

DeadMoneyFemaleTuxedo.esp

Purge Cell Buffers.esp

Sierra Madre - Casino Chips.esp

Easy Unlocking and Guaranteed Pick Pocket.esp

IWS-Core-Guards.esp

IWS-Core-Patrols.esp

ADAM - HH.esp

IWS-DM.esp

AWOP-MoMod.esp

IWS-LR.esp

IWS-OWB.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

IWS-HH.esp

NVEC Complete NVCE AWOP Patch.esp

New Vegas Redesigned 3.esp

Casinochip.esp

Alternative Repairing - New Vegas Enhanced Content.esp

Monster Mod Wasteland Edition.esp

IWS-MoMod.esp

MoMod-NightSpawn.esp

MoMod-MCMMenu.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp

Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp

Quick Trade.esp

pipboy2500_edisleado.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Leveled.Lists.esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Integration - Couriers Stash+WMX.esp

WMX-DLCMerged.esp

NVEC Complete NVCE WMX Patch.esp

CNR_Beta.esp

Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix.esp

Alternative Repairing.esp

Alternative Repairing - Bottle That Water (NVEC Complete + NVCE).esp

Alternative Repairing - NVInteriors.esp

IMPACT.esp

IMPACT-Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.esp

[RWM]-Complete Added.esp

A Better Merge.esp

ADAM - Nemesis Armours.esp

Project Nevada - All DLC.esp

Alternative Repairing - Ultimate Edition.esp

Sink-O-Matic.esp

NVEC NVCE PN COMBO Patch.esp

Project Nevada - IMPACT.esp

ADAM - LR.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

1nivPNSLPatch.esp

RWD-NV v1.4 [standard Version].esp

IMPACT-WMX.esp

IMPACT-WMX-DLCMerged.esp

GRA WRP Compatibility Patch.esp

WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp

TFH HD Gauss Rifle WMX.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Store.esp

Wastelander Pack.esp

CFW-PN-DLC.esp

CFW-PN.esp

CFW-DLC.esp

IMPACT-CFW-DLC.esp

IMPACT-CFWNV.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Honest.Hearts.Grunt.Patch.esp

AWOP-IMPACT-WMX.esp

WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

IMPACT-WMX-ModernWeapons.esp

IMPACT-AWOP.esp

MTB.esp

MMWE-LoreOut.esp

MMWE-Claw Beast B Gone.esp

MMWE-No Werewolves.esp

MMWE-No Oblivion.esp

Alternative Repairing - NVInteriors Combo AWOP Edition.esp

ADAM - Rangers on Patrol.esp

AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp

NVInteriors_Combo_AWOP_Tweaks_DLC.esp

Conley.esp

hunter.esp

MoreNiner.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

NCRTrooperOverhaul.esp

ADAM - Trooper Gloves.esp

TFH 1st Recon Helmet.esp

ADAM - NCR Patrol Armour.esp

NukaCola-Ojo.esp

JustAnArmorPack_NV.esp

ADAM - MAIN.esp

ADAM - Outcast Ranger Armour.esp

ADAM - Project Nevada Patch.esp

DeathwishMKI-MRP.esp

The Groovatron NV.esp

WMX-POPMerged.esp

IMPACT-WMX-POPMerged.esp

Weapons.of.the.New.Millenia.Temp.esp

XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two Perks Per Level.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp

NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

NevadaSkies - Brighter Nights.esp

Some of the mods were merged by me and I plan to merge ADAM together and IMPACT together.

I have not made a Merge Patch yet but I will when I can get the game to launch properly.

 

Mod List (might help)

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+Easy Unlocking - Easy Hacking - Guaranteed Pick Pocket

+Purge Cell Buffers

+NVAC - New Vegas Anti Crash

+Sortomatic - Modders Resource

+Pipboy Remover

+Couriers Stash Integration

+Couriers Stash Integration - Loose

+New Vegas - Enhanced Camera

+Nevada Skies - Weather Effects

+Nevada Skies - Weather Effects - Loose

+IMPACT

+New Vegas Redesigned 3

+Fallout Character Overhaul

+Caesars New Regime - Legion Overhaul

+NCR Trooper Overhaul_beta

+A Better Veronica

-A Better Cass

+A Better Cass - Loose

+A Better Boone

+A Better Arcade

+A Better Merge

+A Familiar Friend - The Pip-Boy 2500 - Handheld Pipboy

+Remove Karma Sound

+Saxxons Quest Collection

+Lucky 38 Suite Reloaded v4

+Lucky 38 Suite Reloaded v4 - Loose

+Afterschool Special

+Afterschool Special - Loose

+Mobile Truck Base

+The New Bison Steve Hotel and Lucky Casino

+The New Bison Steve Hotel and Lucky Casino - Loose

+NVInteriors Project - NMC

+NVInteriors Project

+NVInteriors Project - Loose

+A World Of Pain (AWOP)

+Deathwish - Fully Animated Revolver Rifle

+Weapon Animations Replacer FOMOD

+Winchester M1897 - Trench Gun

+Walther WA2000

+TOZ-66

+Suomi M-31

+Steyr Scout

+Serbu Super Shorty

+PKM

+OTs-33 Pernach

+IMI Desert Eagle

+Dragunov SVU - OTs-03

+CZ805 BREN

+Colt M16A2

+Codename RU-556

+Weapons of the New Millenia - Temp

+Weapons of the New Millenia

+Weapon Mods Expanded - WMX - WRP

+Weapon Mods Expanded - WMX

+Classic Fallout Weapons - New Vegas

+Wastelander Pack

+Spice of Life - Variety Armor and Clothing Robert Breeze Type3

-Spice of Life - Variety Armor and Clothing Robert Breeze Type3 - Loose

+ADAM - A Definitive Armor Mod

+Drags New Armor Pack

+TFH 1st Recon Helmet

+Real Weapon Mods 2 - WRP

+Real Weapon Mods 2

+Willow - A Better Companion Experience

-Willow - A Better Companion Experience - Loose

+Niner

+The Amazing Mr Conley

+Monster Mod Wasteland Edition

+Monster Mod

+Monster Mod - Loose

+Alternative Repairing

+IWS-Increased Wasteland Spawns

+Realistic Weapons Damages - New Vegas

+Practice Makes Perfect

+The Groovatron NV

+More Perks Merge

+More Perks

+Sink O Matic

+One HUD - oHUD

+DUINVv04

+The Mod Configuration Menu

+Project Nevada - Extra Options

+Project Nevada

+DYNAVISION 3 - Total Visual Enhancement

+The Weapon Mod Menu

+CASM with MCM

+Quick Trade

+JIP Companions Command and Control

+JIP Companions Command and Control - Loose

+UIO - User Interface Organizer

-Performance Of The Gods

+Lutana NVSE Plugin

+Can Has Recoil NV

+New Vegas Stutter Remover

+Enhanced Blood Textures for NV v2_22c

+Sierra Madre Casino Chips

+Casino Chips

+HiRes Raider Graffiti

+High Res Turpentine

+Magazine Redux

+Tweaked Cashregister

+The Ultimate Cigarette Retexture

+High-Resolution Bobby Pin Box

+Pass-card - Retex

+Holodisk - Retex

+Retextured Labels - Food and More

+Caravan Lunch - Fixed UV Map

+Good-Ol-Pipboy

-TFH Better Authority Glasses

+Shifting Shadows - 2k Assassin and Stealth Suit Retextures

+Metal Armors Metalized - 2K Metal Armor Re-textures

+Bornagain Combat Armor

+aMidianBorn NV Book Of Water - Steel

+Wasteland clothing Hires retexture

+Vault Suits Retextured

+Cowboy Repeater without peep sight

+EWIs Ammunition

+Immersive Scopes

+Fire Axe - Retextured

+HD One Hand Melee by Insanity Sorrow

+A Quick Shovel Retex

+TFH HD Gauss Rifle

+GRA Patch for Millenias Weapon Retexture Project

+Bozar retexture

+Single Shotgun Re-Retexture

+357 Revolver Re-Retextured

+Weapon Retexture Project - WRP

+IHWT - Improved Heavy Weapons Textures

+Improved ED-E Textures

+Improved Robots Textures

+Improved Super Mutants Textures

+Improved Cyberdogs Textures

+Improved Deathclaw Textures

+aMidianBorn NV Book Of Water - Flesh

+MGs Neat Clutter Retextures

+OJO BUENO NUKA-COLA MACHINE

+OJO BUENO High Quality Texture Workshop

+NMCs_Texture_Pack_For_New_Vegas

+EWIs Sun Package for NV

+EWIs Clouds

+EWIs Texture Pack V2

+EWIs Big Texture Pack Ultimate Edition

+Hall Of Equipment

+Improved LOD Noise Texture

+High Detail LOD for Mojave

+Armor Replacer Child NPC Fix

+Roberts Male Body

+Type3 - LR

+Type3 - OWB

+Type3 - HH

+Type3 - DM

+Type3

+NVEC Patches - 3.4DD

+NVEC - NVCE

+Yukichigai Unofficial Patch - YUP

*Unmanaged: CaravanPack

*Unmanaged: TribalPack

*Unmanaged: MercenaryPack

*Unmanaged: ClassicPack

*Unmanaged: GunRunnersArsenal

*Unmanaged: LonesomeRoad

*Unmanaged: OldWorldBlues

*Unmanaged: HonestHearts

*Unmanaged: DeadMoney

*Unmanaged: FalloutNV

The only files in the override are UIO folders.

 

Computer Info

[GalenZ]

The only BSA I have are the vanilla ones for all DLCs, and when I have MO manage them, they're checked, and when MO doesn't manage them, I can't check them.

 

In any case, the problem has *nothing* to do with my FNV install - it's something systemic.   Some virus scans and a couple of reboots later, the problem seems to have magically vanished - I'm adding in all my mods again, and starting the game just fine (so far, knock wood).  And my computer somehow seems faster, too.  There must have been some nasty process running in the background that I wasn't aware of or something, though my it would make FNV hang with 49 mods, but not with 48, is beyond me.   I'm chalking this one up to gremlins, because I have no idea what the problem was, or why it seems to have suddenly gone away...

 

EDIT 1218pm PST - I may have spoken too soon.  Still hanging, just with way more mods activated.  Still nowhere near the 128 or so that I used to hit easily, though.

Edited February 20, 2015 by GalenZ

[Morton]

Yea I had one situation where it would run with several mods active. Went to sleep for the night, next day it would not launch for some unseen reason. I think I'm going to call black magic on this now.

Edited February 20, 2015 by Morton

[GalenZ]

The problem is definitely with the new Steam client, is affecting Skyrim too, and a workaround has been found.  To quote from https://forum.step-project.com/topic/7224-something-is-preventing-skyrim-from-running/ :

At this point I believe it's Steam.  Why? Because Steam is the only thing that has had an update in last few days - very close to when my problem started. I've been using MO 1.2.18 since it came out (a month or so ago maybe???) and it's been working fine.

On top of that, I found this MO's Nexus page, user "Dwailing" has a workaround that worked for me - full normal load order.  It's all about timing though.

The workaround:  Shutdown Steam. Start Skyrim from MO. It will complain about Steam not running.  Tell MO to start Steam. As soon as that happens, MO will give you another window that asks you to click "OK" when Steam is started.  DON'T WAIT from for Steam to start, IMMEDIATELY click OK.

Doing that has my normal full load working again.  It's tricky because of the timing, but it does prove there's nothing wrong Skyrim, MO, the number of mods or the mods themselves. It's something in Steam.

I just hope Steam gets this fixed soon!!!

I can verify that this works for me, so long as I am *very* quick about hitting 'return' to activate the OK button.

 

I have created a trouble ticket for this at Steam support, and I highly encourage anyone else who has the same problem to do so also.  The more problem reports they see, the more likely they are to address the issue.

Edited February 22, 2015 by GalenZ

[Morton]

I will say this is a probable fix, however when trying it Steam launches faster than the 4GB enabler.

This of course results in a repeat of the original problem.

Does anyone know of a way to slow down or stop the Steam launch.

This does work if I don't use the 4GB launcher.

I am also having another problem where launching through MO causes the game to have a windowed full screen look.

Edited February 22, 2015 by Morton

[DoubleYou]

Hmmm.... I seem to be experiencing this as well... investigating...

[Morton]

I lied , I got it to work with the 4GB enabler.

However the window problem still persists.

[DoubleYou]

Hmmm... I got the problem, and the workaround works. STEAM!!!! Don't mess up my Skyrim!

 

I wonder if this problem only affects MO users...

[CTDruinsmylife]

so when i want to enter whiterun i got loading screen and it says its not responding...so its problem with steam or?

[ZumboPrime]

so when i want to enter whiterun i got loading screen and it says its not responding...so its problem with steam or?

Don't touch anything. Just wait for the goddamned game to load. Sometimes it takes a while if you install a lot of mods with NMM.

[GrantSP]

Can everyone verify if you have Win8.x?

I've noted this issue in Nexus and it seems to only affect Win8.x users. I am on Win7 and have not seen anything like it, and my Steam client updated at the same time as everyone else.

[Morton]

That may be something as I am using windows 8.1

[DoubleYou]

I am using Windows 8.1.

[Morton]

I wonder if this problem only affects MO users...

Yes I think it does.

I did move my game to NMM for some time and it ran just fine.

Edited February 23, 2015 by Morton

[GrantSP]

This is going to be a difficult one to fix I think.

Firstly the 'Best answer' method listed above unfortunately doesn't appear to work for ALL users 100% of the time, so it isn't the fix

Secondly @Tannin has posted in the Bug Genie that he has Win8.x and hasn't experienced this issue.

 

It does all seem to stem from the Steam client update but there is something extra in some of the Win8.x users systems that messes this up.

 

The current active issue is #1014.

[DanimalTwo]

The fix on the MO Nexus post fixes the problem like a charm.

I, however, am still having the game look like a maximized window once the start text pops up. (did not happen with NMM)

Assuming you are running MO, the Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini files used by MO are those in your "MO\profiles\{your profile name here}" directory and not those in your "C:\Users\{your user name here}\Documents\My Games\Skyrim" directory. To fix your problem the following should be in your SkyrimPrefs.ini

 

 

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1080

iSize W=1920

 

 

Change to width W and height H to fit your monitor.