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Main Menu Not Showing Options When Using STEP Extended Patch

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Essentially, whenever I use the patch, there's no sound at the main menu, no options, and when I alt tab out and close the window, the process keeps going unless I kill it in task manager.

 

Here's my load order:

 

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]
09  ApachiiHair.esm
0A  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0B  ApachiiHairMales.esm
0C  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
0D  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0E  DynamicLoot.esm
0F  JSwords.esm  [Version 1.4]
10  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
11  Omegared99-Compilation.esm
12  HighResTexturePack01.esp
13  HighResTexturePack02.esp
14  HighResTexturePack03.esp
15  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.6]
16  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
17  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
18  Morning Fogs.esp  [Version 1.0]
19  Rainbows.esp
1A  SplashofRain.esp
1B  ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
1C  ADS.esp
1D  AOS.esp
1E  BWS.esp
1F  DragonShoutVoice.esp
20  IHSS.esp
21  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
22  LIAT - Sounds.esp
23  randomthunder.esp
24  mintylightningmod.esp
25  MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
26  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
27  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
28  StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
29  TradeBarter.esp
2A  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
2B  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 2.00]
2C  Ars Metallica.esp
2D  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
2E  Birds.esp
2F  BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
30  Bring Out Your Dead.esp  [Version 1.2.4]
31  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
32  ClamsDropPearls.esp
33  Dead Body Collision.esp
34  Disease Descriptions.esp
35  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
36  DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
37  fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp  [Version 1.0]
38  Immersive Patrols Merged All.esp
39  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
3A  LIAT - NPCs.esp
3B  manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
3C  More Salt Please.esp
3D  More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
3E  Moss Rocks.esp
3F  Moss Rocks_DB.esp
40  ORM-Arvak.esp
41  PilgrimsDelight.esp
42  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
43  RabbitsPlus.esp
44  Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
45  ShootingStars.esp
46  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
47  SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp  [Version 1.1]
48  SMDropLitTorch.esp
49  Traps Make Noise.esp
4A  WetandCold.esp
4B  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
4C  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
4D  Footprints.esp
4E  Footprints - Ash.esp
4F  NoxUE2.00.esp
50  RaceMenu.esp
51  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
52  vAutosaveManager.esp
53  SkyUI.esp
54  iHUD.esp
55  Customizable Camera.esp
56  BlueJeans.esp
57  Cloaks.esp
58  1nivWICCloaks.esp
59  Elemental Staves.esp
5A  ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
5B  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
5C  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
5D  Immersive Weapons.esp
5E  imp_helm.esp
5F  imp_helm_imp.esp
60  imp_helm_dawn.esp
61  imp_help_dbrn.esp
62  imp_guard_helm.esp
63  nordicrangerarmor.esp
64  Northborn Fur Hoods.esp
65  Unique Uniques.esp  [Version 1.5]
66  Dr_Bandolier.esp
67  LC_immersiveLoot.esp
68  Equipping Overhaul.esp
69  Lock Overhaul.esp
6A  AesirArmor.esp
6B  Gildergreen Regrown.esp  [Version 1.2.6]
6C  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
6D  Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
6E  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 1.2.4]
6F  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
70  SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
71  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.7]
72  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
73  Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
74  BlockSparkles.esp
75  Civil War Repairs.esp
76  Civil War Overhaul.esp
77  Distant DetailHF.esp
78  DiversePriests.esp
79  DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
7A  dynamic fires.esp
7B  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
7C  Headtracking.esp
7D  Convenient Horses.esp
7E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
7F  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
80  Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
81  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
82  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
83  VariousGuardReplacer.esp
84  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
85  Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
86  Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
87  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
88  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
89  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
8A  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
8B  Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp
8C  CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
8D  CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
8E  CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
8F  CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp
90  CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp
91  ELFXEnhancer.esp
92  BFSEffects.esp
93  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
94  Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
95  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
96  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
97  vImmersiveBeds.esp
98  vImmersiveBeds - HFDG.esp
99  Beards.esp
9A  Brows.esp
9B  Presets 2-3.esp
9C  3DNPC.esp
9D  VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp
9E  Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
9F  SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp  [Version 1.8]
A0  moveitLWT.esp
A1  NonEssentialChildren.esp
A2  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
A3  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.3.6b]
A4  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
A5  CharGen Morphs.esp
A6  CharGen ECE Morphs.esp
A7  Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
A8  DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
A9  getSnowy.esp
AA  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
AB  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
AC  AFT_iNPCFix.esp
AD  DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
AE  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
AF  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
B0  Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
B1  AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
B2  FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
B3  Realistic Nights Merged.esp
B4  Dynamic Loot Add-Ons.esp
B5  Better Quest Objectives Merged.esp
B6  Contractor & Mavari Armor.esp
B7  Omegared99 Weapon Sets & Level List.esp
B8  JSwords Load Screens & Distribution Balance.esp
B9  Death Cam Duration.esp
BA  Face Masks.esp
BB  Organized Bandits In Skyrim.esp
BC  STEP Extended Patch.esp
BD  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 
The mods after and including Skyfalls + SkyMills + DG +DB.esp aren't recognized by BOSS, as they've either been merged, or are too recent. I'm using Mod Organizer, and have installed all the mods required for STEP Core and Extended.
 
Is it possible that I need to un-merge a particular mod so that it works better with the patch? Not sure if this is the case, as I would normally get the sign that indicate a missing master from the patch plugin.
 
Also, on the topic of the Mod Organizer, is it normal for it to take a lot of time to launch the game? Tested with the vanilla profile, it still takes a considerably longer amount of time to load than just launching without the program.

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You have a lot of non-step mods, so it most likely is a compatibility problem somewhere.

 

Mod Organizer does typically take longer to load than vanilla. That's because of the VFS it has to initiate.

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When you include a large list in a post please use spoiler tags. I put them into your post.

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You have a lot of non-step mods, so it most likely is a compatibility problem somewhere.

 

Mod Organizer does typically take longer to load than vanilla. That's because of the VFS it has to initiate.

Even with only the required masters ticked, the game still gets stuck at the main menu when using the patch.

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The latest extended patch STEP Extended Patch 228 v3  is full of errors which I can fix but I noticed that the patch will not run with SKSE. The game crashes at the menu. I can play all day long with the current patch as long as I don't launch with SKSE or I uninstall ALL SKSE .dlls. ONLY the STEP Extended patch is causing this problem.

 

Things I have tried:

1) This happens with only required mods installed so it's not an incompatibility issue.

2) This happens with all STEP extended mods installed correctly

3) Tried it with vanilla inis and no change so not Skyrim ini or Skyrim Preference ini

4) Tried with and without ENB Boost and no change

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Which records are in error? It might be from the recent Weapons and Armor Fixes update. If so, use v4 until the patches are updated.

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The errors are not the problem.  I can go into the esp and fix those easily.  The problem is that STEP Extended Patch esp will CTD the game at the menu screen if any SKSE dlls are installed.  I have even tried deleting every group from the esp so that it's an empty esp and it still causes CTD at menu screen unless I launch with no SKSE.
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Many mods have updated since the extended patch was updated so it may be out of date I guess it should be updated but I would rather release 2.2.9 instead.

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I am not sure why this worked as I got CTD with only the required esps checked but:  I went line by line in TES5Edit with all my mods active and I found that the Patch conflicts with RND (Realistic Needs and Diseases).  I merged what needed to be in the patch.esp and it works fine now.  So my suggestion is when testing to completely uninstall mods not just uncheck the esp.  I may have had other esps that were RND patched as well so that could have been part of the problem.  I also had to merge COT Patches (Climates of Tamriel) because of AOS.  SO it seems that either I had esps that had some patching or the files themselves were conflicting even with the esps deactivated.

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