Any tips on how to narrow down a consistent freeze / crash at a specific location, with an inconsistent log?

[Soulmancer]

In the Temple of Xrib I am getting a freeze 50% of the time and a crash 50% that produces a log completely different from the last log.   When the game freezes i can still hear music and SFX as if the game is still playing, while graphics are frozen.  Doesn't happen every time, but most of the time.

Sometimes it occurs when fighting falmer of chaurus on the lower level, though usually it happens once you aggro and engage mihail's dwarven colossi on the upper level.

I was also able to replicate this on a different computer with the same mod list + saved game; freeze and random log crash.  I tried to spawn multiple falmer, chaurrus and dwarven colossi outside riverwood with the console and was not able to get the game to freeze or crash.  

Been trying to diagnose all day and have made no progress. 

 

 

[Soulmancer]

I've tried like 20-30 different things but no closer to diagnosing it or narrowing it down.  I cannot replicate it outside of the temple of xrib currently... seems to happen at random after less than a minute or after a few minutes, with varying/inconsistent crash logs, or a full graphic freeze where i can still hear audio and music as if the game is still going.  It seems to happen when engaging falmer, chaurrus and/or mihail's dwarven colossus.

hardware monitor indicates everything well within thresholds, even tried spawning 10 colossi and 50 various falmer + chaurrus variants in the forsets by riverwood (which eat a lot more resources on it's own) and couldn't get it to crash or freeze. 

edit: it seems to be due to the infighting in this cell between dwarven and falmer faction.   only at this location though, if i set em as friendly, I can't seem to recreate the crash or freeze.  No clue why though typically this cell would not have dwarven automatons in vanilla.  pretty much 100% of the time it'll freeze or crash when the colossus and falmer/chaurrus start fighting each other... so far only been able to replicate it in this dungeon.

[z929669]

  On 4/5/2025 at 5:49 PM, Soulmancer said:

I've tried like 20-30 different things but no closer to diagnosing it or narrowing it down.  I cannot replicate it outside of the temple of xrib currently... seems to happen at random after less than a minute or after a few minutes, with varying/inconsistent crash logs, or a full graphic freeze where i can still hear audio and music as if the game is still going.  It seems to happen when engaging falmer, chaurrus and/or mihail's dwarven colossus.

hardware monitor indicates everything well within thresholds, even tried spawning 10 colossi and 50 various falmer + chaurrus variants in the forsets by riverwood (which eat a lot more resources on it's own) and couldn't get it to crash or freeze. 

edit: it seems to be due to the infighting in this cell between dwarven and falmer faction.   only at this location though, if i set em as friendly, I can't seem to recreate the crash or freeze.  No clue why though typically this cell would not have dwarven automatons in vanilla.  pretty much 100% of the time it'll freeze or crash when the colossus and falmer/chaurrus start fighting each other... so far only been able to replicate it in this dungeon.

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So are you running pure vanilla or with added NPC mods or mods that may touch factions? If you are running such mods, it's more than likely an issue with one of them (or their scripts if present).