AMK Posted November 12 Posted November 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, sheson said: Unless CS makes LOD shader modifications it will be not really possible to match the exact look with the standard and limited LOD shader. Especially the different metal/glossiness reacting differently weather. If you happen to know how to program shaders, look at the DirectX shader source from CS and the OpenGL shader source used by TexGen I uploaded. Right now, the OpenGL is just some standard implementation. I will continue testing to see what's is possible to change or influence when baking into a standard diffuse instead of converting it from sRGB to linear. OK, no I don't know anything about shaders and how they work but I'm sure your tool and CS will get upgraded to better support each other because both are a necessity in each load-order. I'm very thankful for the time you spent on the matter. But I also have another question from you, if you remember you told me about a problematic mod when you check my logs and it was `DepthOfSkyrim.esp` now I found out somehow it was corrupted from my own changes and I've reinstalled it again and it doesn't show anymore HITME warning in SSEEdit. should I rebuild my dyndolod from scratch to resolve any issue ? (grass cache -> XLodGen -> TexGen -> Dyndolod) or is there a shorter way ? or not necessary at all to rebuild anything ? Edited November 12 by AMK
sheson Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 1 hour ago, AMK said: OK, no I don't know anything about shaders and how they work but I'm sure your tool and CS will get upgraded to better support each other because both are a necessity in each load-order. I'm very thankful for the time you spent on the matter. But I also have another question from you, if you remember you told me about a problematic mod when you check my logs and it was `DepthOfSkyrim.esp` now I found out somehow it was corrupted from my own changes and I've reinstalled it again and it doesn't show anymore HITME warning in SSEEdit. should I rebuild my dyndolod from scratch to resolve any issue ? (grass cache -> XLodGen -> TexGen -> Dyndolod) or is there a shorter way ? or not necessary at all to rebuild anything ? Check if DepthsOfSkyrim.esp is a master in any of the created patch plugins. If that is the case, check the patch plugins for errors in particular for unresolved form IDs. In that case those should be fixed manually or by generating from scratch. Otherwise, if there are CTD or odd issues in the game, test without output/patch plugins and in case that makes a difference generate new output from scratch. https://dyndolod.info/FAQ#Checking-DynDOLOD-plugins-for-errors-with-xEdit 1
AMK Posted November 12 Posted November 12 (edited) I've Updated my texgen output (changed grass brightness) and then rebuilt atlas in dyndolod expert mode then override the output on the previous ones. mo2 load-order is like this : PGPatcher_Output - Full xLODGen Output Grass Resource TexGen_Output TexGen_Output - Color Retone (*) DynDOLOD_Output Dyndolod - Atlas (*) atlas generation messages : [Tamriel] Generating object LOD [01:15] [Tamriel] Creating texture atlas D:\Games\[Tools]\skyrim Tools\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\DynDOLOD\LOD\DynDOLOD_Tamriel.dds 8192 x 8192 [01:15] [Tamriel] Creating texture atlas D:\Games\[Tools]\skyrim Tools\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\DynDOLOD\LOD\DynDOLOD_Tamriel_Glow.dds 512 x 512 [01:21] <Error: File not found textures\lod\outwallpbr_lod.dds> [01:22] <Error: File not found textures\lod\smim_smelter_spoutpbr_lod.dds> [01:22] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcstonewallpbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\dwestonerubble01pbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\farmroof02pbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\shiproof02pbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcplankspbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcwoodpostpbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\shipwoodside01paintedpbr_lod.dds> [01:25] <Error: File not found textures\lod\frozenmarshice02pbr_lod.dds> [01:25] <Error: File not found textures\lod\treepineforestcutlod.dds> [01:26] <Error: File not found textures\lod\magestatuepbr_lod.dds> [01:27] <Error: File not found textures\lod\smim_shack_roofpbr_lod.dds> [01:27] <Error: File not found textures\lod\volcanictundradirtcliffs01pbr_lod.dds> [01:28] <Error: File not found textures\lod\hagravenveins01pbr_lod.dds> [01:30] <Error: File not found textures\lod\pinebarklod.dds> Atlas generation completed successfully those errors are normal ??? obviously I'm doing something wrong here. (also I'm using CS) also have to say that before this process my grass lod is fine but they were just too much bright because my bad texgen settings. ok fixed with also creating the mesh output via `Execute LODGen` button. Edited November 12 by AMK
sheson Posted November 12 Author Posted November 12 1 hour ago, AMK said: I've Updated my texgen output (changed grass brightness) and then rebuilt atlas in dyndolod expert mode then override the output on the previous ones. mo2 load-order is like this : PGPatcher_Output - Full xLODGen Output Grass Resource TexGen_Output TexGen_Output - Color Retone (*) DynDOLOD_Output Dyndolod - Atlas (*) atlas generation messages : [Tamriel] Generating object LOD [01:15] [Tamriel] Creating texture atlas D:\Games\[Tools]\skyrim Tools\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\DynDOLOD\LOD\DynDOLOD_Tamriel.dds 8192 x 8192 [01:15] [Tamriel] Creating texture atlas D:\Games\[Tools]\skyrim Tools\DynDOLOD\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\DynDOLOD\LOD\DynDOLOD_Tamriel_Glow.dds 512 x 512 [01:21] <Error: File not found textures\lod\outwallpbr_lod.dds> [01:22] <Error: File not found textures\lod\smim_smelter_spoutpbr_lod.dds> [01:22] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcstonewallpbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\dwestonerubble01pbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\farmroof02pbr_lod.dds> [01:23] <Error: File not found textures\lod\shiproof02pbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcplankspbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\orcwoodpostpbr_lod.dds> [01:24] <Error: File not found textures\lod\shipwoodside01paintedpbr_lod.dds> [01:25] <Error: File not found textures\lod\frozenmarshice02pbr_lod.dds> [01:25] <Error: File not found textures\lod\treepineforestcutlod.dds> [01:26] <Error: File not found textures\lod\magestatuepbr_lod.dds> [01:27] <Error: File not found textures\lod\smim_shack_roofpbr_lod.dds> [01:27] <Error: File not found textures\lod\volcanictundradirtcliffs01pbr_lod.dds> [01:28] <Error: File not found textures\lod\hagravenveins01pbr_lod.dds> [01:30] <Error: File not found textures\lod\pinebarklod.dds> Atlas generation completed successfully those errors are normal ??? obviously I'm doing something wrong here. (also I'm using CS) also have to say that before this process my grass lod is fine but they were just too much bright because my bad texgen settings. ok fixed with also creating the mesh output via `Execute LODGen` button. Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Errors are not normal... It is supposed to create those texture if they do not exist. Do they exist in the old DynDOLOD output?
AMK Posted November 12 Posted November 12 30 minutes ago, sheson said: Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. Errors are not normal... It is supposed to create those texture if they do not exist. Do they exist in the old DynDOLOD output? thanks sheson but I did it already and i sent another post regarding fixing it and find the solution, idk but sometimes in this form posts won't persist problem was that I was doing this without previous dyndolod generation enabled and with only texgen enabled, my bad.
TheDude Posted November 20 Posted November 20 (edited) Hi Sheson, hope you're doing alright! I’m running into a strange issue involving LOOT and/or Vortex, the mod "Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim)" and my DynDOLOD-output. LOOT keeps detecting "cyclic interactions" between these mods, no matter how I adjust the load order...? Even when I sort everything manually or create specific custom rules, LOOT still reports the same cyclic dependency (see screenshots). This has never happened before and I have generated Dyndolod at least 100 times together with "Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim)" and the same Load order without this error... So, anyway, I hope you can help. All logs, debug files, and my load order can be found here (no bug report was generated): https://limewire.com/d/B27Xk#uPqrussaqH Cheers! Edited November 20 by TheDude
sheson Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 8 hours ago, TheDude said: Hi Sheson, hope you're doing alright! I’m running into a strange issue involving LOOT and/or Vortex, the mod "Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim)" and my DynDOLOD-output. LOOT keeps detecting "cyclic interactions" between these mods, no matter how I adjust the load order...? Even when I sort everything manually or create specific custom rules, LOOT still reports the same cyclic dependency (see screenshots). This has never happened before and I have generated Dyndolod at least 100 times together with "Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim)" and the same Load order without this error... So, anyway, I hope you can help. All logs, debug files, and my load order can be found here (no bug report was generated): https://limewire.com/d/B27Xk#uPqrussaqH Cheers! Upload DynDOLOD.esm and DynDOLODExtender.esp.
TheDude Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Done! https://www.mediafire.com/file/xar5lxmvsa4ql6n/DynDOLOD.esm/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/p36jvttw2stl7lm/DynDOLODExtender.esp/file
blueetenicolet Posted November 21 Posted November 21 (edited) Hello Sheson, I met color mismatch between Lod objects and full models. I have read https://dyndolod.info/Mods/Community-Shaders#PBR and change the gamma in Texgen_SSE.ini from 1.3 to 2.2, then the color of dds file looks very close (compare to its non-PBR version), but after regen dyndolod I found it not change at all in game. Then I found dyndolod will convert sRGB to linear too and put textures into DynDOLOD_Output\textures\pbr , I think maybe the're used by LOD objects. But after I change the gamma in DynDOLOD_SSE.ini to 2.2 and rerun dyndolod, I found the texture it generate not changed. (e.g. \DynDOLOD_Output\textures\pbr\landscape\mountains\mountainslab01linear) Edited November 21 by blueetenicolet
sheson Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 1 hour ago, blueetenicolet said: Hello Sheson, I met color mismatch between Lod objects and full models. I have read https://dyndolod.info/Mods/Community-Shaders#PBR and change the gamma in Texgen_SSE.ini from 1.3 to 2.2, then the color of dds file looks very close (compare to its non-PBR version), but after regen dyndolod I found it not change at all in game. Then I found dyndolod will convert sRGB to linear too and put textures into DynDOLOD_Output\textures\pbr , I think maybe the're used by LOD objects. But after I change the gamma in DynDOLOD_SSE.ini to 2.2 and rerun dyndolod, I found the texture it generate not changed. (e.g. \DynDOLOD_Output\textures\pbr\landscape\mountains\mountainslab01linear) Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. You will have to delete the ..\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\ folder as it will create linear textures again if they already exist in the output or the data folder.
blueetenicolet Posted November 21 Posted November 21 5 minutes ago, sheson said: Read the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts. You will have to delete the ..\DynDOLOD_Output\textures\ folder as it will create linear textures again if they already exist in the output or the data folder. Sorry for bother, I have tried restart my PC and then seems it works well, Maybe the change to ini file not correctly aplly first time.
sheson Posted November 21 Author Posted November 21 7 hours ago, TheDude said: Done! https://www.mediafire.com/file/xar5lxmvsa4ql6n/DynDOLOD.esm/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/p36jvttw2stl7lm/DynDOLODExtender.esp/file Can you also upload your version of Natural Waterfalls.esp?
TheDude Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Of course! https://www.mediafire.com/file/75yt9vziznwrfzm/Natural_Waterfalls.esp/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/94lqwb32h47jl4e/Natural_Waterfalls_-_Water_for_ENB_Patch_%28Shades_of_Skyrim%29.esp/file (don't know if you need this patch, but I uploaded it anyway just in case... :-) )
sheson Posted November 22 Author Posted November 22 22 hours ago, TheDude said: Of course! https://www.mediafire.com/file/75yt9vziznwrfzm/Natural_Waterfalls.esp/file https://www.mediafire.com/file/94lqwb32h47jl4e/Natural_Waterfalls_-_Water_for_ENB_Patch_%28Shades_of_Skyrim%29.esp/file (don't know if you need this patch, but I uploaded it anyway just in case... :-) ) Get the test version from https://mega.nz/folder/JdpU1KZB#cYTSPK6NW2CSbGrvQ-w_6A. If the issue persists, upload new logs and DynDOLOD.esm. A somewhat quicker test run with just Tamriel, object LOD, standard tree LOD and dynamic LOD would be enough. 1
TheDude Posted November 22 Posted November 22 4 hours ago, sheson said: Get the test version from https://mega.nz/folder/JdpU1KZB#cYTSPK6NW2CSbGrvQ-w_6A. If the issue persists, upload new logs and DynDOLOD.esm. A somewhat quicker test run with just Tamriel, object LOD, standard tree LOD and dynamic LOD would be enough. Yeeees, it seems to work!! I did a quick test with just Tamriel LOD (without occlusion) and I'm getting perfect results with LOOT/autosort, no cyclic rules whatsoever! Thank you so much!! 1
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