Skyrim Revisited Pre-Release Feedback

[hazelwolf]

Scroll back a bit and I'm sure you'll find it. Fairly common question. :)

I think I'll look for it properly later. So far finding more questions than answers and I'm really only interested because of how well supported LOOT seems to be :P

 

If I may ask a possibly noobier question though. I'm struggling with installing Better Males properly owing to the way the archive is structured (With its various optionals and no Fomod) Not sure if it's the way I'm reading the SR:LE instructions or if I've set up MO wrong (Both are possible at the same time, I grant).

 

Anyway, if someone could provide some decent instructions that would be appreciated, thanks.

[statmonster]

As I see it:

 

1. BOSS is more consistent, if you have the same instructions (list plus BUM) it will always sort the same way. This makes it good to use for guides with many users, especially ones who may then add or subtract mods. LOOT does not have this desirable property as far as I know.

 

2. BOSS also tells you it is unsure and needs active intervention to remove uncertainty (BUM), while LOOT just seems to sort everything as best as it can.

 

3. Finally there is a bit of path dependence - the guide was started and built up around the way BOSS works.

 

At least that's my assumptions.

Edited March 6, 2015 by statmonster

[hazelwolf]

As I see it:

 

1. BOSS is more consistent, if you have the same instructions (list plus BUM) it will always sort the same way. This makes it good to use for guides with many users, especially ones who may then add or subtract mods. LOOT does not have this desirable property as far as I know.

 

2. BOSS also tells you it is unsure and needs active intervention to remove uncertainty (BUM), while LOOT just seems to sort everything as best as it can.

 

3. Finally there is a bit of path dependence - the guide was started and built up around the way BOSS works.

 

At least that's my assumptions.

Seems legit.

 

BOSS may be old but at least it's capable provided you are able to sort out the load order, I guess.

[danielleonyett]

I think I'll look for it properly later. So far finding more questions than answers and I'm really only interested because of how well supported LOOT seems to be :P

 

If I may ask a possibly noobier question though. I'm struggling with installing Better Males properly owing to the way the archive is structured (With its various optionals and no Fomod) Not sure if it's the way I'm reading the SR:LE instructions or if I've set up MO wrong (Both are possible at the same time, I grant).

 

Anyway, if someone could provide some decent instructions that would be appreciated, thanks.

you can type in the word "LOOT" into the search box at the top left - that's what I did because I was curious, too.

 

as for better males - you should have downloaded 2 of the files from the mod page, a faces file and a body or underwear file. honestly, you can pick whichever 2 files you want. I'm not sure about the underwear files (because I like my guys nekkid), but the nekkid file that I choose includes 2 options folders. I believe they have a txt file that explains how to use the optional files. Personally, I uncheck the bodybuilder folder during installation because I'm not interested in those options, but I do like to choose how hairy my guys will be.

Edited March 6, 2015 by danielleonyett

[hazelwolf]

you can type in the word "LOOT" into the search box at the top left - that's what I did because I was curious, too.

 

as for better males - you should have downloaded 2 of the files from the mod page, a faces file and a body or underwear file. honestly, you can pick whichever 2 files you want. I'm not sure about the underwear files (because I like my guys nekkid), but the nekkid file that I choose includes 2 options folders. I believe they have a txt file that explains how to use the optional files. Personally, I uncheck the bodybuilder folder during installation because I'm not interested in those options, but I do like to choose how hairy my guys will be.

The text files only refer to manual installation.

 

Got no problem with doing that but I'd prefer to find a way of keeping it all within MO. The problem I find is setting the Data directory. The mod has multiple ones.

[danielleonyett]

which file are you using?

[hazelwolf]

which file are you using?

Nudes - FavoredSoulMeshes - FlaccidVersion  and Faces - GeonoxFaces as specified in the guide.

[danielleonyett]

k, so I just dl'ed the nude favoredsoul meshes flaccid

double clicked in MO

move the options folder INTO the data folder, then set the data folder as the data folder for MO.

 

once the mod is installed, then you go into the mod from the left pane and check things out, or you can open the folder in explorer if it's easier to move stuff around there.

I guess I should expand on that - the reason I do it that way is so that I can switch between options and decide what I like instead of just using what Neovalen thinks looks best.

[hazelwolf]

k, so I just dl'ed the nude favoredsoul meshes flaccid

double clicked in MO

move the options folder INTO the data folder, then set the data folder as the data folder for MO.

 

once the mod is installed, then you go into the mod from the left pane and check things out, or you can open the folder in explorer if it's easier to move stuff around there.

I guess I should expand on that - the reason I do it that way is so that I can switch between options and decide what I like instead of just using what Neovalen thinks looks best.

Yes, it worked. 

Dumb-foundingly simple when I think about it now XD

 

I never realised you could move the files around like that in the installation. 

 

Thanks :)

[danielleonyett]

np!

 

looking at my mod list - I realize that I actually separated the options folder into a separate mod and create the appropriate folder paths in that mod. then I just copy an optional file that I want to try out and paste it in the proper place within that mod. I do all of this in explorer, though, outside of MO because I'm more comfortable with that. just thought I'd pass that along in case it's an idea that interests you!

 

so I have the better males mod (without the options folder) in my MO and then below that my new mod is called better males - options

within that mod I have 2 main folders: the options folder (mine only contains hairy options because I'm not interested in the bodybuilding options) and the textures folder

Edited March 6, 2015 by danielleonyett

[Nozzer66]

There's a few ways to go. 

 

1) Grab the mod manually, crack it open using your extractor of choice and move the required files around manually in Windows Explorer. When you have them where you want them, archive it and throw that archive into MO's downloads folder. Then just install it as per usual.

 

2) Do a bit of choppin and changin in MO, like it seems some do. :) Hide files and pull the wanted replacement files into one directory.

 

3) Do multiple install runs with the mod. The first time, choose the base data directory and just install that. Then double click to install again, this time select the needed options directory as the data directory and merge it with what you did before. 

 

4) Or what danielle's done above and install all the options separately. I do that one with the aMidianBorn mods.

 

I've tried all of them and they all work.

[Nozzer66]

Ta muchly. I noticed that after I posted making that part of my post redundant. My bad :/

 

Still, just curious, could anyone provide a clear answer why BOSS is still used as opposed to LOOT?

Neo suggests BOSS and it works perfectly fine. I still give BOSS a run every so often just to see what differs from my basically LOOTified load order and get an idea of possible LOOT rules, etc. With my LOOTified load order it works fine too. 

 

I don't really have an opinion either way as to what's better etc. I'm having no real issues with LOOT so I use it. I would say that if you're new to modding and trying Neo's guide, follow his suggestions and use BOSS and BUM. BOSS and BUM are a bit more intuitive and easier to follow for someone who's new to it all.

 

After you've been at it for a while you'll realize neither of them do things 100% perfect all the time. and you'll learn to check what they suggest. 

 

Having said that though, both of them get it right lots more often than they get things wrong.

[phazer11]

@Hazelwolf you can follow my PerMa pack if you wish to get you started, it uses LOOT for both SR:LE and REGS as well as PerMa it's in my signature. I recommend the 0.7b of LOOT as it sorts PerMa better and requires next to no LOOT rules whereas the stable version required a few.

[statmonster]

I noticed I had my skyrimprefs.ini iRadialBlurLevel=2., when Vividian says it should be iRadialBlurLevel=1

 

What is it supposed to be set at for SRLE?

 

(what difference does it make?)

 

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Also...

 

Hein84 recently uploaded https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/63456/ which fixes some parallax issues - a screen shot on his site shows the pink tundra being every so slightly less pink... (or maybe I'm just imagining it).

Edited March 7, 2015 by statmonster

[Dillard]

Which setting do I use in the Behave Menu of DDSOpt for the Color Maps?

g^1.0, g^1.8, g^2.2...?

 

the picture in the guide is missing for this setting:

https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:DDSopt

 

Another question: In the Step Guide section with the INI-Tweaks, it says to add the following line to the Skyrim.ini:

[Display]

[...]

iPresentInterval=1 ;This line needs to be manually added, as it is misplaced into SkyrimPrefs.ini by Skyrim! - REQUIRED by ENBoost

But this line doesnt show up in the SR-LE Guide. So i DONT need to write it in the Skyrim.ini?