zielakxar Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Since some time ago I've managed to successfully complete instal of Skyrim Revisited + REGS + PermaEverything seems to work as intended exept one annoying thing. No matter if u use quickload or regular load - game keeps crashing to desktop without any visible error message.I've read that there can be multiple causes of such problem but none sollutions i've managed to find helped in this case.I can load a game only the 1st time i run Skyrim, then if i die i need to restart the game to load a save again.While installing this masterpiece i've followed compatibility guides that where available at the time. Here is my load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooth.esp Skyrim Project Optimization.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm EFFCore.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm mannyBlackRock.esm mannyDragonhead.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm Gray Fox Cowl.esm MFVM.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp AOS.esp mintylightningmod.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp TradeBarter.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AshRocks.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp EpisodeParallax.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp Holidays.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp Moss Rocks.esp Moss Rocks_DB.esp MoonGlow.esp NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp ORM-Arvak.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp Point The Way.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp High Level Enemies - SIC.esp High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SulfurRocks.esp Traps Are Dangerous.esp WM Trap Fixes.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp WondersofWeather.esp Footprints.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp towConversation.esp UIExtensions.esp SkyUI.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp iHUD.esp Extended UI.esp PreventsAccidentPickUp.esp iNeed.esp iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp imp_helm_legend.esp NightingaleArrows.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Cloaks.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp DeadlyDragons.esp quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp Apple garden.esp BetterDGEntrance.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp CWINPCImprovements.esp DSAMG - Greybeard Fix.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp tos_granitehall.esp Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp high hrothgar overhaul.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp MzarkWonders.esp Nightingale Hall.esp quest_nomercy.esp OBIS.esp OBISDB.esp quest_pitfighter.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp PP_OgmundsTomb.esp PP_WindcallerPass.esp Run For Your Lives.esp When Vampires Attack.esp quest_seaofghosts.esp Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp Snowbound Acres.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Windhelm Lighthouse.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp GuardAnimationsGDO.esp Paralysis.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp Convenient Horses.esp ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp REGS - Better Docks.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Helgen Reborn.esp tos_amber_guard.esp tos_laintardale_hf.esp Better City Entrances - No Whiterun.esp Understone Keep Repair.esp UniqueBorderGates-All.esp UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp BooksOfSkyrim.esp REGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp ELFX - Dragonborn.esp RealShelter.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp Vividian ENB.esp Better Vampires.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp BFSEffects.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp VioLens.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp Beards.esp Brows.esp NB-Scars.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp RSChildren_CompleteUSKP.esp 3DNPC.esp JKs Skyrim Major Cities.esp REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp EFFDialogue.esp 3DNPCEFF.esp Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp No NPC Greetings.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RBB - SR Merge.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Atlas Legendary.esp Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp CWIELnFXPatch.esp RRR_ELFX-Patch.esp Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp CCO_SIC_Patch.esp CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp WAF_CCF_SIC Patch.esp ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp SR Conflict Resolution.esp REGS - SRLE Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp RSPatch.esp DynDOLOD.esp ASIS-Dependency.esp ASIS.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ETaC - Better Dynamic Snow Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Atlas Patch.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp ETaC Complete - BOYD NPC Fix.esp BlackreachOverhaul.esp FarmhouseChimneys.esp FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp PerkusMaximus_Master.esp PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp Better Vampires weapon speed fix.esp PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp PerMa_Survivalism.esp PerMa_USKP master patch.esp Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR BoYD Patch.esp Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp PerMa Headless.esp PerkusRangedPatch.esp PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp KS Hairdo's.esp PatchusMaximus.esp Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp How can i start tracking this issue? Any advice will be highly aprecieated.
Kesta Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) No "just do this and it'll be fine" solution, but make sure you update RaceMenu to its latest version, there have been an issue with NiOverride which got corrected in v3.2.2. And make sure to update XPMSE as well (just got uploaded on its own page), MO wouldn't mark it as "new version available" before, but there have been quite a lot of fixesthose past months. If both are up to date... you'll need someone else's help. Also, turn on papyrus logging via skyrim.ini : [Papyrus] bEnableTrace = 1 bEnableLogging = 1 And post the content of C:\Users\yourUserName\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Logs\Script\Papyrus.0.log here, this kind of crash is usually linked to an unsafe papyrus call, which should be reported in there. Edited July 31, 2015 by Kesta 1
GrantSP Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I've placed spoiler tags around your load order, you may want to do the same when you paste your logs, if you don't use a service like PasteBin.
zielakxar Posted August 1, 2015 Author Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) I have no idea how out of 300 mods you managed to get this one causing my problem - it seems it was indeed a bug with either Race Menu or XPMSE - reinstall fixed it perfectly.Thanks Kesta! Sorry about this Spoiler thingy. I'll remember to use it in a future. Edited August 1, 2015 by zielakxar
zielakxar Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) It seems I was happy a bit too early. After an hour of playing or in some specific places i still experience CTD's. I've managed to find that it is probably memory issue. Here is what I got in my MemoryBlocksLog.log after using https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/?: logging of blocks enabledlogging max values onlyTimer disabledBlock1 Block2512MB 256MB85 885 885 985 1085 1185 1285 1385 1485 1585 1685 1785 1885 1985 2085 2185 2285 2385 2485 2585 2685 2785 2885 2985 3085 3185 3285 3385 3485 3585 3685 3785 3885 3985 4085 4185 4285 4385 4485 4585 4685 4785 4885 4985 5085 5185 5285 5385 5485 5585 5685 5785 5885 5985 6085 6185 6285 6385 6485 6585 6685 6785 6885 6985 7085 7185 7285 7385 7485 7585 7685 7785 7885 7985 8085 8185 8285 8385 8485 8585 8685 8785 8885 8985 9085 9185 9285 9385 9485 9585 9685 9785 9885 9985 10085 10185 10285 10385 10485 10585 10685 10785 10885 10985 11085 11185 11285 11385 11485 11585 11685 11785 11885 11985 12085 12185 12285 12385 12485 12585 12685 12785 12885 12985 13085 13185 13285 13385 13485 13585 13685 13785 13885 13985 14085 14185 14285 14385 14485 14585 14685 14785 14885 14985 15085 15185 15285 15385 15485 15585 15685 15785 15885 15985 16085 16185 16285 16385 16485 16585 16685 16785 16885 16985 17085 17185 17285 17385 17485 17585 17685 17785 17885 17985 18085 18185 18285 18385 18485 18585 18685 18785 18885 18985 19085 19185 19285 19385 19485 19585 19685 19785 19885 19985 20085 20185 20285 20385 20485 20585 20688 20688 20789 20794 207105 207105 208105 209105 210121 210121 211121 212122 212122 213122 214122 215122 216122 217122 218122 219122 220122 221122 222122 223122 224122 225122 226122 227122 228122 229122 230122 231122 232122 233122 234153 234153 235153 236153 237153 238153 239153 240153 241187 241200 241200 242200 243200 244201 244201 245202 245203 245204 245205 245205 246206 246207 246208 246209 246209 247210 247211 247212 247212 248213 248214 248224 248224 249224 250235 250235 251235 252236 252237 252238 252239 252240 252241 252242 252243 252244 252245 252246 252247 252248 252249 252250 252251 252252 252253 252254 252255 252256 252257 252258 252259 252260 252261 252262 252263 252264 252265 252266 252267 252268 252269 252271 252272 252273 252274 252275 252276 252277 252279 252280 252281 252282 252283 252284 252285 252286 252287 252288 252289 252290 252291 252292 252293 252294 252295 252296 252297 252298 252299 252300 252301 252302 252303 252304 252305 252306 252307 252308 252309 252310 252311 252312 252313 252314 252315 252316 252317 252318 252319 252320 252321 252322 252323 252324 252325 252326 252327 252328 252329 252330 252331 252332 252333 252334 252335 252336 252337 252338 252339 252340 252341 252342 252343 252344 252345 252346 252347 252348 252349 252350 252351 252352 252354 252355 252356 252357 252358 252359 252360 252361 252362 252363 252364 252365 252366 252367 252368 252369 252370 252373 252377 252377 253378 253379 253380 253381 253382 253383 253384 253384 254385 254406 254406 255406 256417 256418 256419 256420 256421 256422 256423 256424 256426 256427 256428 256429 256430 256431 256432 256433 256434 256435 256436 256437 256438 256439 256440 256441 256442 256443 256444 256445 256446 256447 256449 256450 256451 256452 256453 256454 256455 256456 256457 256458 256459 256460 256461 256462 256463 256464 256465 256466 256467 256468 256469 256471 256472 256473 256474 256475 256476 256477 256478 256479 256480 256481 256482 256483 256484 256485 256486 256487 256488 256489 256490 256491 256493 256495 256497 256500 256501 256502 256505 256508 256509 256510 256512 256 So CTD-s occur when 1st block reaches 512. What is strange to me is that in SKSE.ini i have: [General]ClearInvalidRegistrations=1[Memory]DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768ScrapHeapSizeMB=256[Display]iTintTextureResolution=2048 Why is 1st block limited to 512? when DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768 ? Changing DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB to 1024 causes CTD on game start. Any suggestions? Have i missed something? Edited August 6, 2015 by zielakxar
MysticDaedra Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Make sure you don't have Sheson's memory patch installed anymore. The SKSE.ini setting conflicts with it since they both do the same thing; not sure if SKSE is coded to ignore it though, but if you have the original mod installed I'd uninstall it just to be safe.
zielakxar Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 (edited) I've seen Sheson https://enbdev.com/ctdfix.html and was considering to try it but in the end I decided to wait for advice from forum. So currently I have NOT given Sheson my 1stborn :) (never installed it yet). I only followed Memory patches that are described in https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition guide.My SKSE.ini is in : D:\Games\Skyrim tools\Mod Organizer\mods\Skyrim Script Extender\SKSE\SKSE.iniMy Game is in D:\Games\Skyrim Also in my enblocal.ini i have:ReservedMemorySizeMb=1024VideoMemorySizeMb=2902 Since i have 16GB RAM and 3 GB Vram. I've set VideoMemorySizeMb acording to : https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:ENBlocal_INI/Memory#VideoMemorySizeMb so it should be correct considering I have windows 7 Edited August 6, 2015 by zielakxar
Nozzer66 Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 The first block is limited to 512 cause the 768 is the total amount of memory you've allocated. You have to take the scrap heap off that so 768-256=512. So that suggests the SKSE.ini is being seen by the game OK. With 16 Gig of RAm and 3 Gig of card RAM, you could try maybe upping the VideoMemorySizeMB noticeably. Try something like 8192 or 6144. Change the SKSE.ini 768 to 1024 and change the ReservedMemorySizeMB to 512 or there abouts. I have 16 Gig of Ram and 3 Gig of Vram on my machine and I run VideoMemorySizeMB of 8192 and have room for more if needed. I also run the SKSE numbers as 1024 and 256 with no issues.
zielakxar Posted August 6, 2015 Author Posted August 6, 2015 I've been experimenting a bit and :DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024ScrapHeapSizeMB=256 Gives me crash butDefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024ScrapHeapSizeMB=512 Seems to be ok.and now in my Memory Blocks Log i have in the end:520 256521 256522 256 So it got past 512 and no CTD's so far. Lets see after couple hours.
Nozzer66 Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 I tell a lie; I run 1024 and 384 as the numbers in my SKSE.ini. Still don't see any CTD's.
Pretendeavor Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 Try ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false (in enblocal.ini)+DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024ScrapHeapSizeMB=256
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