jacktannery Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I installed SR:LE successfully, and then tried to add the two mods I have been looking forward to: SPERG and Apocalypse Magic. According to my research these should have been compatible and, by installing those two mods and appropriate patches, then running Boss, a new Bash Patch, FNIS and SkyProc everything should have worked when I started a new game. These are the SPERG esps I am using:SPERG.esp SPERG-DG.esp SPERG-DB.esp SPERG Immersive Armors.esp SPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.esp and I'm also usingApocalypse - The Spell Package.espDwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.espAll sorted by BOSS. Except Apocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.espWhich is not recognised and I think I'm probably supposed to BUM it somewhere but not sure where. Result: constant crashing! Does anyone have any idea for where I should begin to look for the problem? Link to comment
Smile44 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 It will need to be after whichever of the two mods is loaded last by BOSS. When sorted load up your whole load order in TES5Edit if it completes then you should be fine, if it does not then it will tell you why. Do you have the full SR:LE install including memory patch? Link to comment
ninjamilez Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) SPURG looks like something that should definitely be added to SR:LE, no? Edited June 23, 2014 by ninjamilez Link to comment
jacktannery Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) It will need to be after whichever of the two mods is loaded last by BOSS. When sorted load up your whole load order in TES5Edit if it completes then you should be fine, if it does not then it will tell you why. Do you have the full SR:LE install including memory patch? Great Advice Smile. I fixed the location of the patch.esp above, then ran TES5EDIT with all ticked and followed the resulting suggestion about SPERG and another mod in SUM. However, now when I run TES5EDIT I get: Background Loader: Fatal: <Exception: "SR Conflict Resolution.esp" requires master "RealisticWaterTwo.esp" to be loaded before it.> Which is weird because according to the order of the esps in BOSS & WyreBash, SR Conflict Resolution is one of the last to load (No. 89), well after Realistic Water Two (No. 81). I tried to make a SUM rule anyway but SUM won't let me or I'm doing it wrong. Edited June 24, 2014 by jacktannery Link to comment
hyperionEXILEd Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Great Advice Smile. I fixed the location of the patch.esp above, then ran TES5EDIT with all ticked and followed the resulting suggestion about SPERG and another mod in SUM. However, now when I run TES5EDIT I get: Background Loader: Fatal: <Exception: "SR Conflict Resolution.esp" requires master "RealisticWaterTwo.esp" to be loaded before it.> Which is weird because according to the order of the esps in BOSS & WyreBash, SR Conflict Resolution is one of the last to load (No. 89), well after Realistic Water Two (No. 81). I tried to make a SUM rule anyway but SUM won't let me or I'm doing it wrong. Have you sorted the masters on the SR Conflict Resolution before loading the whole setup? Link to comment
jacktannery Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Have you sorted the masters on the SR Conflict Resolution before loading the whole setup?I had done as part of installing SR:LE, however I can no longer do this as I can't get TES5EDIT to load all the mods any more. Oh god I hope I don't have to start all over again! Link to comment
jacktannery Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Okay - so I uninstalled SPERG and apocalyspe magic, then deleted the conflict patch, bashed patch, asis and dual sheath, then deleted everything in my override folder, then reinstalled asis and dual sheath and ran all the things Neo says to get a stable version of SR:LE. I then started a new game and did exactly what I did in my crashing run through, and guess what! After telling myself how quick and stable it all was, I then crashed at exactly the same place as before! So it had nothing to do with SPERG and ApcoaMagic. This is an issue with my installation of SR:LE. The crash location is in the forge at Fallkreath - when I look into crafting leather. Link to comment
hyperionEXILEd Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Crap, having to redo an SR:LE install is rough.. This might not be your issue, but sometimes its easy to accidentally drop override files into different mods in your load, have you checked to make sure you dont have any extra FNIS or perhaps SkyProc folders anywhere? Link to comment
Nearox Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) The crash location is in the forge at Fallkreath - when I look into crafting leather. If it's always in the same location it is likely to be either a (broken/missing) mesh issue or a navmesh issue. Seeing as you mostly just installed SRLE with a few extra mods, and if the issue is as you describe - when opening the crafting menu at the leather rack - then I guess it could potentially be the former. Are you sure you completely removed SPERG? Or did you only disable the associated .esps? I haven't used SPERG in a very long time, but you should check if the mod (or the patches for IW etc) also has meshes that overwrite other meshes from SRLE. Edited June 25, 2014 by Nearox Link to comment
jacktannery Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Okay I've conducted multiple experiments. I crash everytime in 3 places. 1. Crash in ForgeWith SR:LE, Apocalypse, and SPERG I crash, also with just SR:LE. However when I use CCO mod manager thingy to make the crafting list shorter, ie just weapons, there is no crash. So this is just crafting menu overload. 2. Crash with SpriggansEverytime I fight a spriggan I crash. This happens with SR:LE, Apocalypse & SPERG; and also with SR:LE & Apocalypse. I will try fighting spriggans with just SR:LE plain and see how I get on. 3. Crash fighting a couple of necromancers in a tower near FalkreathEverytime I fight these spellcasters I crash. This happens with SR:LE, Apocalypse & SPERG; and also with SR:LE & Apocalypse. I will try fighting them with just SR:LE plain and see how I get on. I assume 2 and 3 are related to spellcasting, so Apocalypse is (hopefully) the cause. Otherwise I did something wrong with me SR:LE installation. I never seem to crash in other situations and I always consistently crash in locations 2 and 3 (and any spriggan does it, not specific spriggans). As for removing SPERG - yes I did it totally and deleted my override folder and redid the SR conflict patch, based patch and SUM from scratch. Edited June 26, 2014 by jacktannery Link to comment
hyperionEXILEd Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 (edited) Did you use ASIS to add spells to NPCs? And to be on the safe side are you testing your new setting in a new game? Edited June 29, 2014 by hyperionEXILEd Link to comment
EthanII Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I play a (nearly) full install of SR:LE with SPERG without issues. Check to make sure that you have SKSE 1.7 alpha or higher set up correctly to enable the memory patch. I was having crashes during combat months ago that turned out to be because I had accidentally named my SKSE.ini file "SKSE.ini.ini". SKSE didn't recognize the file, so the memory patch was not enabled. Link to comment
jacktannery Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks I'll double check that now - Ta. Link to comment
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