Mods list:230 mods acceptable?

[yoshino305]

Load Order:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

BBLuxurySuite.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

XFLMain.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

ADS.esp

AOS.esp

BWS.esp

DragonShoutVoice.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Baby Dragons.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 1_5x Brighter.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

More Salt Please.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

More_Saddles.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Point The Way.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

TouringCarriages.esp

Traps Are Dangerous.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

UIExtensions.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

TakeNotes.esp

DaggerCraft.esp

DualSwords.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

FF7 Bustersword.esp

FF7 Masamune & Souba.esp

hardargAerith.esp

hardargCloud.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Inquisitor Set.esp

Insanity's Craftable Dragonbane.esp

Insanity's Dragonbane.esp

ISDScimitar.esp

Itachiring.esp

KatanaCrafting.esp

nhb.esp

Ranger's Cape.esp

Ronin outfit.esp

Sword Master Armor.esp

TifaV3.ff7.byHimmelsky.esp

TribalMightArmor.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

DragonsDiversified.esp

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp

BBLSspouse.esp

BBLSVisitors.esp

BBLSmusic.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

Bandit Patrols.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

dynamic fires.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

TimingIsEverything_RunForYourLives_Patch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Dodge Mod.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

Sneak Tools.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp

Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Pretty Combat Idles.esp

Pretty Female Idles.esp

Pretty Poses And Animations.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

3DNPC.esp

HothFollower.esp

XFLConfig.esp

XFLDialogue.esp

XFLPanel.esp

XFLPlugins.esp

HothFollower UFO Patch.esp

SBF All In One + DLC.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

WolfFollower.esp

FollowerWander2.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

moveitLWT.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

StartingLoadouts.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

Purewaters.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

hardargKadaj.esp

 

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[redirishlord]

We need to talk about your flair ... Now, you know it's up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Or... well, like <Me>, for example, has over three hundred mods, okay. And a terrific smile.

 

Bad Office Space paraphrasing aside, using the TES5Edit merge script, best practices and general knowledge from the STEP Forum, and a potentially dangerous level of bravado your number of plugins isn't neccesarily a concern. Available memory and papyrus load are most likely more important. Choose textures appropriate to your hardware (see the STEP guide for best practices on that) and avoid overloading yourself with scripts (see STEP Packs for users takes on good combinations of mods to extend STEP core).

[EssArrBee]

Added a spoiler tag.

[yoshino305]

Alrights thanks for the advice! I guess i have to start from scratch again cause i have alot of conflicting mods and have no clue about what to do or where to start :/

[redirishlord]

You are already in the place that answered those questions for me. It wasn't quick or easy, took a lot of reading, asking questions on the forum, more reading, lots of trial and error, and of course I'm still learning. Switch to Mod Organizer (if you haven't already) and start building a STEP Core install. Expect to start and stop a few playthroughs while figuring out how dial things in, and have fun with the process.

[Kuldebar]

Yup, quality is more important than quantity. 300 good solid relatively non-conflicting mods is far more stable than running one crap, bloat ridden poorly scripted mod. Add to the arsenal to defend stability: ENBoost and SSME (aka Sheson's Magic Fingers).

 

A dash of realism helps, if you have 2 GB of System RAM and a 512 GB VRAM GPU running on a potato...some restrictions may apply.

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSPERG.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairMales.esmXFLMain.esmREGS - Resources.esmETaC - RESOURCES.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmOmegared99-Compilation.esmTKChildren.esmTravellersOfSkyrim.esmdaymoyl.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espOmegared99-WeaponSets.espFlansEyesForSkrim.espThe Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espBeards.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.espRealisticRoomRental-Basic.espSMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espWarmongerArmory_Vanilla.espAHZmoreHUD.espImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espConvenient Horses.espDelphine Makeover D2.espETaC - Complete.espDerrax_Gendered_Werewolves.espEpisodeParallax.espELE-FX Emittance.espSkyrim - Player Re-Voiced - Elven Races Complete - Male.espYASH_ImprovedClasses.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espRacialXPandSkillBonus.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espXFLDialogue.espBrows.espDeadlyDragons.espImmersive Sounds - Magic.espMarcurioGB.espNB-Scars.espNo More Glowing Edges.espPresets 2-3.espRelightingSkyrim-FULL.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espETaC - Complete TK Children Patch.espELE Plugin - RS Light Color.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espWATER DG.espHelgen Imperial Armory.espForestAtronach.espBelrand by CrimsonFairy.espSMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espSMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espSkyUI.espSmoking Torches.espSoul Gems Glow When Full.espSurilie and Argonian Wine.espTKChildren Merged USKP Patch.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espThundering Shouts.espTradeBarter.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.espTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.espWATER.espWarmongerArmory_DLC.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espDaedric Dawnbreaker.espSPERG.espOverride Speech.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espTrueGauldurAmulet.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espImmersive Weapons.espWarmongerArmory_LeveledList.espStandard-15Percent.espTalvas by CrimsonFairy.espBrothers.espREGS - Cities.espBHTNF_Eli.espGalen_werewolf.espRavenRockExpanded.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espREGS - Better Docks.espSky Haven Temple M&M3.espInns and Taverns.espDawnofWindhelm.espBFT Ships and Carriages.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espRobedSteelPlateArmor.espWATER DB Waves.espSPERG Immersive Armors.espPopulated Dungeons Caves Ruins for USKP.espCloaks.espwhiterunmerged_tpos.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espRebirth Monster.espSkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.espImmersive Dragonborn.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.espTelvanniGuards.espUnderstone Keep Repair.espImmersive Orc Strongholds.espMammothManor.espPoint The Way.espUniqueBorderGates-All.espETaC - Complete Taverns Patch.espETaC - Complete BFT Patch.espBannered_Mare_Inn_Rooms.espAnruin.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths.espPopulated Forts Towers Places.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.espSMIM-ShackRoofFixes.espSkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.espChesko_Frostfall.espREGS - Better City Entrances.espCCO_Frostfall_Patch.espbeginnersshack.espWATER Plants.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espHoldBorderBanners.espHearthfireChimneys - ETaC.espCWIDawnDragonPatch.espMale Elven Followers Compilation V1.espDimitri by CrimsonFairy.espCWINPCImprovements.espOnmund.espWeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.espPrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espenchantedclothing.espImmersive Dawnguard.espWoollyRhino.esphigh hrothgar overhaul.espiNeed.espGildergreen Regrown.espImmersive Brigands.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - SPERG Compatibility Patch.espUniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.espForgotten Windmill.espImmersive Factions.espLightsLakeviewManor.espSkBBP - Lore-Friendly Stats and Encumbrance.espiNeed-SurilieWine.espSmithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.espSPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.espXFLPlugins.espYASH_CombatAI.espYASH_OpenEncounterZones.espYetAnotherWerewolfImprovement_DG.espYield 2.0.espiHUD.espBashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

I'm at 168 esp/esms now, I've been pruning things a bit.

 

My system: Intel i3570k, Radeon HD6850 1 GB VRAM, 8 GB System RAM, Windows 7/64 bit, SanDisk 120 GB SSD, 1 TB Standard HDD

Edited May 30, 2014 by Kuldebar

[yoshino305]

Thank you everyone for sharing with me your experiences! 

[rootsrat]

I run a mod set up with about 400 mods - and that translates to about 225 plugins at the moment (I have more mods in testing currently, mainly for Dragonborn addon). My game is pretty stable. I do get an occasional CTD, but I don't think one can avoid crashes with a silly number of complex scripts running in game. Sometimes I won't crash for hours - I've had 5-6 hours long sessions without a single CTD or any glitch. 

 

Must say that the crashes are very rare and I am happy with what I have.

 

Now, for the best part. It took me about a YEAR to get my game to this state. I've started about 4 or 5 new games, and then ditched them after few levels, as I found errors and conflicts in my modlist as my character levelled. Each time I was able to get my character to a higher level until the game became unplayable. At this moment my character is level 30-something and it is highest level I achieved with this complex build. As said, my game is reasonably stable and hopefully it will remain that way (I want to finally experience end-game content!).

 

Also, over the course of this 1 year a couple solutions were developed that helped with stability (Sheson's patch as well as better understanding of how ENBoost works). But the main problem was the amount of conflicts. 

 

So yeah, 230 mods (or plugins, if that is what you meant) is perfectly fine, but it requires A LOT of work to grant compatibility (custom patches, merged ESPs) and a conscious sacrifice of the mods that just won't play nicely with conjunction with all the other mods you have installed (even though they may be perfectly fine and stable in a less complex mod set up). 

[yoshino305]

omg.. The whole modding stuff ... Way more than skyrim itself :/

[rootsrat]

It becomes a hobby in due course :)