Record ... is being overridden by record

[narphous]

I'm getting errors from dyndolod reporting that Worldspace Editor ID Tamriel is changed by other mods, but none of the mods listed actually touch 0000003C. Various COBJ, ARMO, and ARMA records are listed from the mods. The one thing I believe they all have in common is that they all use ESPFE plugins. I've tried cleaning and having CC recompress the records without change.

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[ArdentKumquat]

Hello. I just used this to generate LOD and so far it looks good, but there's a snowstorm in Skyrim right now, so things are a little blurry. I did run into one issue. A mod I'm using that I ported from Skyrim LE, "Women's Faces" (I believe) apparently overrides some headpart definitions from the Hearthfire DLC.  This caused an error when I ran texgen, along with a warning that it could result in game crashes. I have been using this mod for years, in both Skyrim LE and now SSE. I disabled the plugin and restarted the processing and it all went smoothly after that. I'm wondering if that is a necessary check. I'm impressed with the level of validation texgen is doing, since it called my attention to a couple of invalid IDs for ESL flagged plugins (when I ran the older version yesterday), but I'm wondering about the significance of these new errors regarding the headparts. Is that always considered an error?

 

This is an update to my previous post (I don't see how to simply reply to it):

TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [INFO:03000D9D] in file HearthFires.esm is being overridden by record [HDPT:03000D9D] in file NPS_Female_SE.esp.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

There were quite a few of these errors, so clicking ignore for each would be extremely tedious, so I disabled the .esp file while running texgen and dyndolod.

[sheson]

  On 9/8/2023 at 11:58 PM, ArdentKumquat said:

Hello. I just used this to generate LOD and so far it looks good, but there's a snowstorm in Skyrim right now, so things are a little blurry. I did run into one issue. A mod I'm using that I ported from Skyrim LE, "Women's Faces" (I believe) apparently overrides some headpart definitions from the Hearthfire DLC.  This caused an error when I ran texgen, along with a warning that it could result in game crashes. I have been using this mod for years, in both Skyrim LE and now SSE. I disabled the plugin and restarted the processing and it all went smoothly after that. I'm wondering if that is a necessary check. I'm impressed with the level of validation texgen is doing, since it called my attention to a couple of invalid IDs for ESL flagged plugins (when I ran the older version yesterday), but I'm wondering about the significance of these new errors regarding the headparts. Is that always considered an error?

 

This is an update to my previous post (I don't see how to simply reply to it):

TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [INFO:03000D9D] in file HearthFires.esm is being overridden by record [HDPT:03000D9D] in file NPS_Female_SE.esp.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

There were quite a few of these errors, so clicking ignore for each would be extremely tedious, so I disabled the .esp file while running texgen and dyndolod.

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As explained use the "Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message" from the message to open https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Record-Is-Being-Overridden

Plugins randomly replacing records in master plugins is an error that needs to be fixed. Not having encountered an issue in the game is not a valid method to assume something is fine. If you check the overwritten record in xEdit you will see it has to do with moving children to another home. You would have to create the right conditions that rely on this record in order to test what happens if the game, scripts can not find the record and data they are expecting.

Temporarily disabling the plugin is not going to fix its problems. The plugin needs to be fixed to work properly with the game plugins of Skyrim Special Edition.

[ArdentKumquat]

  On 9/9/2023 at 5:49 AM, sheson said:

See the first post and/or https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which log and debug log to upload when making posts.

As explained use the "Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message" from the message to open https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Record-Is-Being-Overridden

Plugins randomly replacing records in master plugins is an error that needs to be fixed. Not having encountered an issue in the game is not a valid method to assume something is fine. If you check the overwritten record in xEdit you will see it has to do with moving children to another home. You would have to create the right conditions that rely on this record in order to test what happens if the game, scripts can not find the record and data they are expecting.

Temporarily disabling the plugin is not going to fix its problems. The plugin needs to be fixed to work properly with the game plugins of Skyrim Special Edition.

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I don't see how something like this could happen. A HeadPart record overriding a DialogTopic? It makes no sense.The plugin was disabled solely for the purpose of generating LOD, which was what I was attempting to do.  Between SLE and SSE there must be over 200 hours with that mod installed. It may be missing some dialog topics, but they all seem to be related to marriage, which is something I didn't bother with in the game.  In any case, I just renumbered all the offending FormIDs using xEdit. What a strange thing to find.

[SamusArtorias]

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [NPC_:00000007] in file Skyrim.esm is being overridden by record [STAT:00000007] in file _ResourcePack.esl.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

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I need help figuring this out please

[sheson]

  On 12/11/2023 at 3:01 AM, SamusArtorias said:

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TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [NPC_:00000007] in file Skyrim.esm is being overridden by record [STAT:00000007] in file _ResourcePack.esl.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

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[duplexsystem]

Hello, I am using Skyrim VR with new game files (from the newest AE) (as in everything but SkyrimVR.esm is from the newest AE version so as far as plugins are concerned there should be no difference between AE and VR (except SkyrimVR.esm) and the backported esl support however I am getting errors like
 

Error: Record [STAT:0000000B] in file _ResourcePack.esl is being overridden by record [REFR:0000000B] in file morthal.esp. These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

Where the formid is in the new expanded range. I believe this is because DynDOLOD/TexGen are not aware VR can load the extended ESLs now. But I don't know if this causes issues.

Also I am getting strange error with DynDOLOD
 

<Error: Unresolved FormID [0F00091C] Error in cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm DLCDwarvenPuzzleDungeon_StaffPedestal "Altar of the Seasons" [ACTI:0F000883]>

which is strange to me because I have all masters of that file and it is official besthda content. I checked this formid in xedit and it does not appear to exist at all. Maybe it is related to the above.

Attached bellow are my logs
https://gist.github.com/duplexsystem/cf38acfc2640bb1749764922bfe56c2f

[sheson]

  On 2/22/2024 at 6:25 AM, duplexsystem said:

Hello, I am using Skyrim VR with new game files (from the newest AE) (as in everything but SkyrimVR.esm is from the newest AE version so as far as plugins are concerned there should be no difference between AE and VR (except SkyrimVR.esm) and the backported esl support however I am getting errors like
 

Error: Record [STAT:0000000B] in file _ResourcePack.esl is being overridden by record [REFR:0000000B] in file morthal.esp. These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

Where the formid is in the new expanded range. I believe this is because DynDOLOD/TexGen are not aware VR can load the extended ESLs now. But I don't know if this causes issues.

Also I am getting strange error with DynDOLOD
 

<Error: Unresolved FormID [0F00091C] Error in cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm DLCDwarvenPuzzleDungeon_StaffPedestal "Altar of the Seasons" [ACTI:0F000883]>

which is strange to me because I have all masters of that file and it is official besthda content. I checked this formid in xedit and it does not appear to exist at all. Maybe it is related to the above.

Attached bellow are my logs
https://gist.github.com/duplexsystem/cf38acfc2640bb1749764922bfe56c2f

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Download the latest build of xEdit with ESL support for Skyrim VR from the xEdit discord.

Load the load order as usual. If the background loader reports the same record is being overridden messages, report it to the xEdit discord or github so it can be being fixed. If it doesn't report it, let us know.

[duplexsystem]

Sorry my debug logs were 28mbs and I couldn't find a pastebin service to host them.

I am running the latest xedit build 4.1.5c, when I load all my mods I get stuff like

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Warning: Record [BPTD:0000001D] in file Skyrim.esm is being overridden by record [STAT:0300001D] in file _ResourcePack.esl.

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and no pop-up message.

As for the other error, since xedit is still logging this (just as a warning) I think that it's either a problem with the mod file (I cleaned it so maybe somehow that's it) or xedit, so I'll move to the xedit discord about it

[sheson]

  On 2/22/2024 at 5:15 PM, duplexsystem said:

Sorry my debug logs were 28mbs and I couldn't find a pastebin service to host them.

I am running the latest xedit build 4.1.5c, when I load all my mods I get stuff like

and no pop-up message.

As for the other error, since xedit is still logging this (just as a warning) I think that it's either a problem with the mod file (I cleaned it so maybe somehow that's it) or xedit, so I'll move to the xedit discord about it

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Since you verified that the latest xEdit experiemental with VR ESL support still reports the error, this needs to be fixed in xEdit first. The update will then make it into xLODGen/DynDOLOD shortly after.

As https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs explains, use a file service for large log files.

None of the so far provided links/logs seem to show the unresolved form ID error. See https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Unresolved-Form-ID
Unresolved form IDs can not be fixed by cleaning plugins.

In the versions of cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm I have, xx000833 is not an ACTI base record but an ENCH record, which DynDOLOD does not care about.

[Silversai]

error message popped up about a record from "Man Those Borders" being overwritten by a "Skyrim Realistic Conquering" patch for the same mod.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [PACK:FE07EA0E] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA0E] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

 

EDIT: after hitting ignore there was more for these same mods

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07E895] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [NAVM:FE07E895] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [ACHR:FE07EA01] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA01] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [PACK:FE07EA0D] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA0D] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07EA1F] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [NAVM:FE07EA1F] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07EA12] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [ACHR:FE07EA12] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [NPC_:FE07EA14] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [ACHR:FE07EA14] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

 

now conflicts between 2 other mods, where one is needed for the other

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B801] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B801] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [COBJ:FE20B855] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B855] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B806] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B806] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B810] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B810] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[sheson]

  On 3/19/2024 at 1:52 PM, Silversai said:

error message popped up about a record from "Man Those Borders" being overwritten by a "Skyrim Realistic Conquering" patch for the same mod.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [PACK:FE07EA0E] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA0E] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

 

EDIT: after hitting ignore there was more for these same mods

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07E895] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [NAVM:FE07E895] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [ACHR:FE07EA01] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA01] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [PACK:FE07EA0D] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [REFR:FE07EA0D] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07EA1F] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [NAVM:FE07EA1F] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [REFR:FE07EA12] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [ACHR:FE07EA12] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [NPC_:FE07EA14] in file Man Those Borders!.esp is being overridden by record [ACHR:FE07EA14] in file SRC - AIO - Man Those Borders Reborn Patch.esp.

 

now conflicts between 2 other mods, where one is needed for the other

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B801] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B801] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [COBJ:FE20B855] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B855] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B806] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B806] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [TXST:FE20B810] in file Celes Nightingale Armor.esp is being overridden by record [ARMO:FE20B810] in file Celes Nightingale Armor Quest Default.esp.

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Read https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Record-Is-Being-Overridden for the the explanations of the error in the load order/plugins and possible solutions.

[Duskm00n]

Hey Im getting this pop up. >< I have no idea what to fix when things were just fine. Thank you for any help.

 

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [AVIF:0000063A] in file Skyrim.esm is being overridden by record [REFR:0000063A] in file Lux - JK's Castle Volkihar patch.esp.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

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[sheson]

  On 7/30/2024 at 10:18 AM, Duskm00n said:

Hey Im getting this pop up. >< I have no idea what to fix when things were just fine. Thank you for any help.

 

[Window Title]
TexGen

[Main Instruction]
Record [AVIF:0000063A] in file Skyrim.esm is being overridden by record [REFR:0000063A] in file Lux - JK's Castle Volkihar patch.esp.

[Content]
These errors can cause CTD and other serious issues and need to be fixed.

Click on this link for additional explanations and help for this message

For qualified help and advice or to report a problem make a post on the official DynDOLOD support forum.

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https://dyndolod.info/Messages/Record-Is-Being-Overridden
For example, this can happen in case compacting form IDs for light plugin was not done or it went wrong. When compacting form IDs, all plugins requiring the plugin that is being compacted need to be loaded also. For plugins version 1.7 used by runtimes versions prior 1.6.1130, the valid form ID range for new master records starts at 0x800. Any form ID below 0x800 in any plugin automatically overwrites records in Skyrim.esm or hardcoded records from the game *.EXE file. Make sure there are no unintentional overwrites of records that change their type and that the form IDs of new master records start at 0x800. Starting with runtime version 1.6.1130, plugins with the version 1.71 can use form ID in the range 0x000 to 0x800. Install Backported Extended ESL Support to use such plugins with older runtime versions or Skyrim VR ESL Support for Skyrim VR.

[Duskm00n]

https://ufile.io/f/p7m82

I cant figure this out. Tbh its kind of overwhelming. But here the logs. The plugin is updated. xEdit didnt find any errors in its check of the plugin either. 

[Duskm00n]

ok thank you so much TwT