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EDIT: Haven't been able to CTD my playthrough since setting debug=true. I'll continue playing tomorrow.

Edited March 31 by Kattmandu

sheson · March 31

On 3/30/2025 at 8:33 PM, Kattmandu said:

CTD with 34 test version and removed [Resets]. Missed the edit about debug=true. Will change that now.

crash-2025-03-30-20-30-34.log 74.06 kB · 1 download

DynDOLOD.log

Papyrus.0.log 67.58 kB · 1 download

EDIT: Haven't been able to CTD my playthrough since setting debug=true. I'll continue playing tomorrow.

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This crash log seems to indicated a problem with "Boots of Blinding Speed" added by ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl and po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll. Might be a red herring.

Next time also upload the skse64.log.

Kattmandu · March 31

On 3/31/2025 at 7:33 AM, sheson said:

This crash log seems to indicated a problem with "Boots of Blinding Speed" added by ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl and po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll. Might be a red herring.

Next time also upload the skse64.log.

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Interesting. I completed the More Than You Can Chew quest where Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages says those boots are obtained from. I have the book Crafting with Netch Leather and have read it but don't have Boots of Blinding Speed. However, I did loot the Painted Netch Armor set from the same chest the book was in. I did clean ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl using xEdit's QuickAutoClean executable. And I am using Spell Perk Item Distributor (SPID) per the STEP guide. When that CTD occurred, I was killed by a Bull Netch and the game crashed when it attempted to auto load the last save.

EDIT: I just read that those boots are obtained by going to Fort Hraggstad and looting a chest just inside the fort's main entrance. I have not been to Fort Hraggstad yet. But USEP makes it sound like once you craft the netch armor set, the Boots of Blinding Speed are no longer available...

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Although the quest completes once you loot the chest, you will be given a miscellaneous objective to read the crafting book. Doing so will give you two further objectives: the option to either craft your own set of Netch Leather armor, or to instead track down a shipment somewhere in Fort Hraggstad.

It is advisable to search Fort Hraggstad for a full set rather than crafting your own, as the chest is located just inside the fort's main entrance and contains an additional unique item, the Boots of Blinding Speed. This artifact is legendary for the extreme speed at which it allows the wearer to travel, although unfortunately it curses you with total blindness while equipped. This can be somewhat negated through the use of Night Eye. Once you've obtained a set of Netch Leather armor, both objectives will complete.

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On 3/31/2025 at 7:33 AM, sheson said:

This crash log seems to indicated a problem with "Boots of Blinding Speed" added by ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl and po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll. Might be a red herring.

Next time also upload the skse64.log.

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I was trying to find where that (Optional) Search Fort Hraggstad miscellaneous quest disappeared from my journal and when I attempted to load an older save (Save133_F20216DB_0_5261676E6172_DLC2SolstheimWorld_001946_20250330200445_19_1) the game crashed.

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EDIT: Crash is not repeatable. Also, the "Craft A Set Of Netch Leather Armor Or (Optional) Search Fort Hraggstad" miscellaneous quest completed once I killed one of Mogrul's Thugs and looted their Shadowed Netch Leather Armor set. My previous CTD happened shortly after this moment when I was killed by a Bull Netch.

Well somewhat not repeatable. While it didn't crash again on loading the 133 save, it did crash on loading the 134 save.

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And again on loading save 136.

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Edited March 31 by Kattmandu

sheson · March 31

On 3/31/2025 at 1:27 PM, Kattmandu said:

Interesting. I completed the More Than You Can Chew quest where Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages says those boots are obtained from. I have the book Crafting with Netch Leather and have read it but don't have Boots of Blinding Speed. However, I did loot the Painted Netch Armor set from the same chest the book was in. I did clean ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl using xEdit's QuickAutoClean executable. And I am using Spell Perk Item Distributor (SPID) per the STEP guide. When that CTD occurred, I was killed by a Bull Netch and the game crashed when it attempted to auto load the last save.

EDIT: I just read that those boots are obtained by going to Fort Hraggstad and looting a chest just inside the fort's main entrance. I have not been to Fort Hraggstad yet. But USEP makes it sound like once you craft the netch armor set, the Boots of Blinding Speed are no longer available...

I was trying to find where that (Optional) Search Fort Hraggstad miscellaneous quest disappeared from my journal and when I attempted to load an older save (Save133_F20216DB_0_5261676E6172_DLC2SolstheimWorld_001946_20250330200445_19_1) the game crashed.

EDIT: Crash is not repeatable. Also, the "Craft A Set Of Netch Leather Armor Or (Optional) Search Fort Hraggstad" miscellaneous quest completed once I killed one of Mogrul's Thugs and looted their Shadowed Netch Leather Armor set. My previous CTD happened shortly after this moment when I was killed by a Bull Netch.

Well somewhat not repeatable. While it didn't crash again on loading the 133 save, it did crash on loading the 134 save.

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What all 3 crash share is the mention of po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll and SKSE dispatching a message to plugin 48, before that, which supposedly means StormLightning.dll as far as I can tell, though I might be wrong about that.

I'd suggest to copy the current load order to a new profile in MO2, and then do these tests:

Download and use this test version https://mega.nz/file/MEAT2TCB#sZYPlYowDPEO2RLS41v9qX0ISnTabbf4wkAbuEVJNik
Edit ..\SKSE\plugins\DynDOLOD_Data\DynDOLOD_NG_Worlds.txt again and add a new line debuglevel=2 under the debug=true.
It will not really change anything, but do the test anyways.

Then check if you have the latest version of StormLightning.dll as it updated recently. Test if removing it makes any difference.

Then test if there is any difference using the 7.2.0RC11 version of po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll. Then test also test what happens if you remove it.

Upload logs whenever a crash happens with a short note explaining if this is a crash after death or loading straight from menu.

We might have to continue ripping the load order apart for tests, so keep your original load order and saves as backup so you are able to continue with them.

Kattmandu · March 31

On 3/31/2025 at 4:22 PM, sheson said:

What all 3 crash share is the mention of po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll and SKSE dispatching a message to plugin 48, before that, which supposedly means StormLightning.dll as far as I can tell, though I might be wrong about that.

I'd suggest to copy the current load order to a new profile in MO2, and then do these tests:

Download and use this test version https://mega.nz/file/MEAT2TCB#sZYPlYowDPEO2RLS41v9qX0ISnTabbf4wkAbuEVJNik
Edit ..\SKSE\plugins\DynDOLOD_Data\DynDOLOD_NG_Worlds.txt again and add a new line debuglevel=2 under the debug=true.
It will not really change anything, but do the test anyways.

Then check if you have the latest version of StormLightning.dll as it updated recently. Test if removing it makes any difference.

Then test if there is any difference using the 7.2.0RC11 version of po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll. Then test also test what happens if you remove it.

Upload logs whenever a crash happens with a short note explaining if this is a crash after death or loading straight from menu.

We might have to continue ripping the load order apart for tests, so keep your original load order and saves as backup so you are able to continue with them.

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Copied my MO2 profile, downloaded new DynDOLOD DLL NG v34 and installed, added debuglevel=2, disabled Storm Lightning (confirmed it's the latest version from March 16th), CTD occurred when loading save 135 after loading a few other saves first.

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Next, I will test with RC11 SPID and Storm Lightning re-enabled.

CTD again with RC11 SPID when loading save from menu.

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CTD with SPID disabled and loading save from menu.

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This CTD occurred while roaming around outside on Solstheim. No game save loading involved. No combat. No death. Just exploring. I did just load a previous game save from the menu about 1 minute prior to the CTD however.

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Edited March 31 by Kattmandu

sheson · March 31

On 3/31/2025 at 5:00 PM, Kattmandu said:

Copied my MO2 profile, downloaded new DynDOLOD DLL NG v34 and installed, added debuglevel=2, disabled Storm Lightning (confirmed it's the latest version from March 16th), CTD occurred when loading save 135 after loading a few other saves first.

crash-2025-03-31-16-56-21.log 74.18 kB · 1 download

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 94.88 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 78.04 kB · 1 download

Next, I will test with RC11 SPID and Storm Lightning re-enabled.

CTD again with RC11 SPID when loading save from menu.

crash-2025-03-31-17-04-06.log 68.73 kB · 1 download

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 62.58 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 30.93 kB · 1 download

CTD with SPID disabled and loading save from menu.

crash-2025-03-31-17-08-50.log 66.8 kB · 1 download

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 81.77 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 41.67 kB · 1 download

This CTD occurred while roaming around outside on Solstheim. No game save loading involved. No combat. No death. Just exploring. I did just load a previous game save from the menu about 1 minute prior to the CTD however.

crash-2025-03-31-19-09-58.log 95.33 kB · 2 downloads

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 738.5 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 272.28 kB · 1 download

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Seems save to say the the two DLLs are unrelated to the issue.

Test if there is anything different with this test version in regards to CTDs while loading https://mega.nz/file/AFA2STSQ#-2Ieg4T-Uam916ofik_-virnHQ4fEgNm0sA-T0lK7v0. Post new logs in case there is still a CTD.

The last CTD seems unrelated, as the last log entry to the DynDOLOD.log - the last time DynDOLOD.DLL was invoked - is about 11 seconds before the crash.
The crash seems to be related to NPCs, effects and maybe to skeleton.nif and/or Effects\FXfireWithEmbers01_Cheap.nif.

Kattmandu · March 31

On 3/31/2025 at 7:43 PM, sheson said:

Seems save to say the the two DLLs are unrelated to the issue.

Test if there is anything different with this test version in regards to CTDs while loading https://mega.nz/file/AFA2STSQ#-2Ieg4T-Uam916ofik_-virnHQ4fEgNm0sA-T0lK7v0. Post new logs in case there is still a CTD.

The last CTD seems unrelated, as the last log entry to the DynDOLOD.log - the last time DynDOLOD.DLL was invoked - is about 11 seconds before the crash.
The crash seems to be related to NPCs, effects and maybe to skeleton.nif and/or Effects\FXfireWithEmbers01_Cheap.nif.

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Unfortunately, still a CTD on loading a save from the menu. Loaded 2 saves successfully and then the third load resulted in a CTD.

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sheson · April 1

On 3/31/2025 at 8:20 PM, Kattmandu said:

Unfortunately, still a CTD on loading a save from the menu. Loaded 2 saves successfully and then the third load resulted in a CTD.

crash-2025-03-31-20-18-45.log 125.01 kB · 1 download

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 62.58 kB · 1 download

Papyrus.0.log 35.36 kB · 1 download

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You seem to have po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll and StormLightning.dll enabled again. Please use with the test profile in which they were both are disabled.

Set debuglevel=5 in the DynDOLOD_NG_Worlds.txt and test again with the test version from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20072-dyndolod-dll/page/22/#findComment-285334. Upload those logs.

Then test with this version https://mega.nz/file/UUJiWaIC#zlCzccqWn5ys6cKqXbWGRkWNmcld8k1M-yuqk5uDmVM. Upload new logs.

Kattmandu · April 1

On 4/1/2025 at 7:55 AM, sheson said:

You seem to have po3_SpellPerkItemDistributor.dll and StormLightning.dll enabled again. Please use with the test profile in which they were both are disabled.

Set debuglevel=5 in the DynDOLOD_NG_Worlds.txt and test again with the test version from this post https://stepmodifications.org/forum/topic/20072-dyndolod-dll/page/22/#findComment-285334. Upload those logs.

Then test with this version https://mega.nz/file/UUJiWaIC#zlCzccqWn5ys6cKqXbWGRkWNmcld8k1M-yuqk5uDmVM. Upload new logs.

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Yes, I re-enabled both of those mods after a CTD still occurred with each mod disabled. I will disable both per your request and continue my playthrough with debuglevel=5.

CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/03/31 15:31 PM. As before, CTD happens on third load. First two loads were successful.

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CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 03:51 AM. CTD happened after many loads...maybe after 6th or 7th time.

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sheson · Tuesday at 05:44 PM

On 4/1/2025 at 8:48 AM, Kattmandu said:

Yes, I re-enabled both of those mods after a CTD still occurred with each mod disabled. I will disable both per your request and continue my playthrough with debuglevel=5.

CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/03/31 15:31 PM. As before, CTD happens on third load. First two loads were successful.

crash-2025-04-01-08-46-20.log 72.42 kB · 5 downloads

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 84.02 kB · 2 downloads

Papyrus.0.log 46.58 kB · 2 downloads

CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 03:51 AM. CTD happened after many loads...maybe after 6th or 7th time.

crash-2025-04-01-08-56-33.log 65.76 kB · 2 downloads

DynDOLOD.log

skse64.log 179.52 kB · 2 downloads

Papyrus.0.log 86.79 kB · 3 downloads

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Just to be sure, if you just disable the DynDOLOD.DLL now and ignore any messages and you try reloading the same way say about 10 times, there is still no CTD?

Continue the tests with this version https://mega.nz/file/AQYXmbCC#GwrvEDQ-nS__nm6XRkSsywPVduhOyiaisHy3Lrn9nmU

If crash still happens, then edit DynDOLOD_NG_DLC2SolstheimWorld.txt and remove everything under [Resets].
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Disabled]
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Markers]
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Objects]

Post the usual logs for every step/crash or report after which removal they seem to have stopped if any.

Kattmandu · Tuesday at 06:02 PM

Another CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 03:51 AM. This CTD happened after a quite lot of game save loads. Too many to count.

DynDOLOD.log --> https://ufile.io/6z62l8t9

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I will try without DynDOLOD.DLL now.

Kattmandu · Tuesday at 06:38 PM

On 4/1/2025 at 5:44 PM, sheson said:

Just to be sure, if you just disable the DynDOLOD.DLL now and ignore any messages and you try reloading the same way say about 10 times, there is still no CTD?

Continue the tests with this version https://mega.nz/file/AQYXmbCC#GwrvEDQ-nS__nm6XRkSsywPVduhOyiaisHy3Lrn9nmU

If crash still happens, then edit DynDOLOD_NG_DLC2SolstheimWorld.txt and remove everything under [Resets].
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Disabled]
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Markers]
If crash still happens, remove everything under [Objects]

Post the usual logs for every step/crash or report after which removal they seem to have stopped if any.

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Tried to get it to CTD without DynDOLOD DLL. Loaded about 30-40 saves from the menu. Also let it loop in a die and autoload last save scenario. Just wouldn't CTD.

I will now try the new DynDOLOD DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 13:09.

CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 13:09. Happened when loading a save from the menu.

DynDOLOD.log --> https://limewire.com/d/lqXFV#vWsjfySV1w

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I will now edit DynDOLOD_NG_DLC2SolstheimWorld.txt and remove everything under [Resets]

CTD when loading older save from menu using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 13:09 and everything under [Resets] removed. Happened when loading a save from the menu.

DynDOLOD.log --> https://limewire.com/d/oADDk#PcNRhaMU7a

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I will now edit DynDOLOD_NG_DLC2SolstheimWorld.txt and remove everything under [Disabled]

CTD after character death right before the game attempted to load the main menu. Using DLL with timestamp 2025/04/01 13:09 and everything under [Disabled] removed.

DynDOLOD.log --> https://limewire.com/d/Gkk8H#ByeTIZiovB