Problkem With Medeival Lanterns

[Zanderat]

See screenshot.  I have no idea.  I let mathy79 know, as well.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3os6flt8xi6w91c/SkyrimSE%202019-08-06%2010-58-50-72.jpg?dl=0

[aproco]

Thanks for the reply. I tried the base version of the mod (no scripts) and the problem persisted. Removing DynDOLOD's overwrites as you suggested does resolve it. I have tried to test against specific mods and narrow this down, but it's proving very finicky. It seems to happen less the fewer mods are installed so I'm having a hard time pinning it down. One thing I have noted: the problem does not happen when I have collision disabled, even with DynDOLOD and its Has Distant LOD overwrites intact? Very odd and still doesn't explain why so few people are seeing anything like this, of course. If you have any other suggestions I'll give them a shot, otherwise I'll just live without LOD for these. I appreciate your help anyway!

[Zanderat]

FYI, the problem persisted when I tested a new game with only MLOS and DynDOLOD loaded.

Edited August 27, 2019 by Zanderat

[sheson]

Thanks for the reply. I tried the base version of the mod (no scripts) and the problem persisted. Removing DynDOLOD's overwrites as you suggested does resolve it. I have tried to test against specific mods and narrow this down, but it's proving very finicky. It seems to happen less the fewer mods are installed so I'm having a hard time pinning it down. One thing I have noted: the problem does not happen when I have collision disabled, even with DynDOLOD and its Has Distant LOD overwrites intact? Very odd and still doesn't explain why so few people are seeing anything like this, of course. If you have any other suggestions I'll give them a shot, otherwise I'll just live without LOD for these. I appreciate your help anyway!

 

Can you explain what you mean exactly by "collision disabled"? You mean in the NIF?

 

Next version of DynDOLOD will not set the flag then. It's just a precaution, that is probably fine to be skipped in this context. Still would be good to understand this issue better.

 

You mentioned earlier you also disabled everything else, did that include all SKSE plugins or other non SKSE DLLs?

Edited August 29, 2019 by sheson

[Zanderat]

I disabled everything, including .dlls.  All I loaded was MLOS, DynDOLOD, SKSE64, and LAL (to skip Helgen).

[Zanderat]

Can't edit my post...  the posts in MLOS don't have any collision, per the MLOS description page.....  Maybe setting the flag in DynDOLOD causes an issue?  Although, I see it as more of a MLOS problem.  Not sure why Mathy97 made them that way.

 

 

KNOWN ISSUES
- As of 1.0.2 there is no static collision on the wooden posts. I was unable to make the animation to work while the post collision was active. Will be probably fixed in future updates. The hanging lanterns do have a collision though and will ragdoll when contacted.

[aproco]

Sorry, I had to be away from my computer for a few days. By disabling collision I meant in-game through the TCL console command. The posts do not have collision but the lanterns do, which is how they react to wind. When disabling all collision through tcl, I never saw the fading happen once. And yes I did run DynDOLOD and test the game with only Medieval Lanterns and Live Another Life installed. The only dll I had was Papyrus Util, which I thought was required for DynDOLOD? Should I try disabling that, or using the DynDOLOD dll instead? I have to use Papyrus Util for Campfire anyway so I've always just opted to use that.

[sheson]

Sorry, I had to be away from my computer for a few days. By disabling collision I meant in-game through the TCL console command. The posts do not have collision but the lanterns do, which is how they react to wind. When disabling all collision through tcl, I never saw the fading happen once. And yes I did run DynDOLOD and test the game with only Medieval Lanterns and Live Another Life installed. The only dll I had was Papyrus Util, which I thought was required for DynDOLOD? Should I try disabling that, or using the DynDOLOD dll instead? I have to use Papyrus Util for Campfire anyway so I've always just opted to use that.

I see. Interesting.

 

Papyrus Util will be fine, I was just wondering if there might be any other plugins still active.

 

Just unset the flag for now. Next DynDOLOD version will not set it.

[aproco]

Very strange. I’ve done about all the testing I can think of and can’t seem to narrow it down any further. Well, at least unsetting the flags does work. Thank you for the troubleshooting help!

[Tacocat]

I have noticed this issue too. Could it be caused by the fact, that mathy created many different lightposts and directly included the matching lantern into its nif? In sseedit i see, that dyndolod actually set the "has distant lod" flag for one light post. The others remain untouched. This is a screenshot of my sseedit: https://imgur.com/wmRNwjw

[sheson]

So far the flag is always set for any base record which has static or dynamic LOD without a problem. Though it seems it might be fine to not set the flag for base records not added by ESMs, thus this is what the next DynDOLOD version will do. In case that causes new issues, it won't be long for them to show and be reported and we will learn more about it and refine when to use it.

 

Edit: DynDOLOD 2.70 is now released.

Edited September 4, 2019 by sheson

[Zanderat]

So far, I am not seeing the fading issue with 2.70.  Thanks!

 

Will do some more extensive testing later tonight.

[Zanderat]

Final update (hopefully): after a good several hours of playing, I haven't not one fade with 2.71.  Thanks Sheson! 

Edited September 7, 2019 by Zanderat