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Are any of you guys using merged patches?

Perfect, I'll optimize all of those right now and see how it goes.Â

Maybe I'm over reacting. Â Ill see how the freezes go after I get in a good solid 3-4 hour play session. Â Thanks for your suggestions as usual and I will definitely try to do some more optimizing. Â I have a theory that freezes happen not only when your game hits the 3.1 ram cap, but also when it tries to process to large of a chunk at once. Â If anyone had some uber papyrus settings that would be interesting to hear about. Â Cheers.

Hey guys.  I've finished re-installing revisited and done my modifications to it for a second time.  Here's the link to my past struggles  https://forum.step-project.com/showthread.php?tid=2799&page=7  Good thing is that soul crushing inventory ctd issue which was unexplainable and uncurable is a thing of the past.  New issue is freezing.  I've played for about 2 days (for not an insane amount of hours) and I've suffered 3 freezes.  Two of the freezes were while attacking an enemy with spells...I'm pretty sure my system ram isn't the issue because the highest I've seen it go is 2.5-2.6k.  I've noticed a few other weird glitches.  When I entered Riverwood a few ppl attacked me =/, white run guards came and killed the black smith and his wife, that archer elf, attacked their kid which didn't die (I guess my killable children mod isn't working); I killed Gerdur...other than that the rest of the Riverwood ppl were peaceful.  Ill just list the issues: -Aggressive npcs with no cause (1 case) -Possibly killed by invisible animal (1 case, I do know this is usually a Skytest issue but I've had this issue before; I checked all the animal types that were invisible prior and they seem to be fine) -Inconsistent FPS, performing WAY under my systems capabilities (I'm not even playing on Ultra, I'm using realvision performance edition...I know Bethesda s incapable of making a decent game engine buyt holding around 60 fps with random spikes to 30 fps when facing certain directions or whatever is frustrating) -FREEZING (If its not 1 thing its another) I dont have the time or heart to really do another mod by mod trouble shoot campaign; but if any of you guys have any ideas I'd love to hear them. C Active Mod Files:

Ok great, just making sure everything is exact exact exact this time. Â I'm even using dated versions of mods like he instructs to, except for the unofficial patches. Â I couldn't find legacy versions of the unofficial patches and I'm very very worried about it. =/

I am trying to tes5edit Unique Region names. Â Neovalen calls for dragging MHDT - Unkown data from dragonborn.esm to unique region names.esp; there is no such record. Â There is a mhdt - max height data record and a TVDT - Unkown record. Â The mhdt - max height data record is in red, is that the one I drag over. Â Or should I just leave it alone? Â

The anticipation is fun, the ctds aren't.

I made a profile called 'desperation build'.  I more or less stripped around 80%-90% of my mods after saving an alternate life char parked in front of Belethor.  At this bare minimum I spoke and traded with belethor for a solid 5 inventory scrubs (buy and sell).  This is my testing environment.  I realized after mass pull and mass reconnects (mods).  Belethor would some times stop insta ctding but would ctd nonetheless shortly after; what this means is this issue could come from more than once source; and  that I have allot of testing to do...fml.  But this proves that there is a solution...whatever this conflict(s) I will try to explain what I know when I know it.Â

Ok well reverting to the old skse version removed all the $ signs from sky ui...its possible the menu is more stable...still crashes at belethor though. I even tried disabling SKY UI. Still crashed on belethor. I guess if anyones reading this and they see those dollar signs, rolling back versions might help.

Yeh I looked it up and it said verifying game cache would be able to fix it; of course for me it didn't and I checked the loication for the file in question...its there.  What this tells me is that for some reason with my mod config something isn't interacting with sky ui properly.  I also noticed Neovalen instructed to use an older version of skse, and skyui.  I am already using the dated version of skyui but not of skse. I guess my plan of action looks like this-test old skse -revert to new skse and start disabling mods in waves for testing -if nothing else works disable sky ui and associated mods and hope it runs On a side note now that Ive followed neovalens instructions and im launching all the scripts from MOD ORGANIZER, skse and skyui seem to be laggy...

Hmmm, if it means anything to anyone before I belethor ctd I realized allot of the categories in sky ui like weapon, armor etc. Â Had '$' in front of them, then ofcourse it crashed. Â Honestly it looks like its an issue with sky ui...has anyone had experience with these dollar signs in sky ui and ctds?

I'm going the route of deleting skse, and sky ui and I'm going to do it neovalens way word by word. Â Hopefully this works. Â Statmonster, thats a great idea and ive already been trying it. Â I have a list of a few more mods ill test like that. Â First Ill make sure there is no weirdness happening with skyui+skse+MO. Â Just had a nice dinner with the gf, feeling calm and collected again finally...ready to more or less take my last stand for these next 2 nights. Â Wish me luck guys, cheers.

See anything suspicious in my boss log?

One thing that is probably a dumb idea but Im thinking of trying when I am able to. Â I have SKSE installed in my skyrim directory, not through mod organizer. Â Because of this when i tried to install SKY UI through Mod organizer it sais there was an error: no skse. Â I ignored it. Â Is it possible this could be the root of my inventory/loot/trade display ctds? Â Probably not but Im going to give it a go.

Ok will do. Â Yes I have Immersive weapons and armors, ill test without them when I have a chance. Â Ok sorry about that, Ill re post.

I really don't, the only merchant mod I have is trade and barter and maybe ars. Â Im starting to think this is not repairable, maybe doing all that leveled list editing when i was installing skyrim revisted affected my game in a deviant way.

Just started a new game, tried to talk to belethor before enabling trade and barter. Still ctds as soon as i ask what do you have for sale. Â The blacksmith chick and everyone else inwhite run seem to be fine. Maybe what I'll try after a short breather is saving in front of belethor, then ill disable every custom patch one at a time and try to sell to him.

It sais it changes 108.  All I can think of is something is terribly wrong with SKY UI.  Ive decided I took this week off to make this game work, I have Monday off aswell.  Ill keep trouble shooting until then and if it stays broken Ill say goodbye to Skyrim.  Possible suspects on my list-steal block -trade and barter -sky ui -skse version (yes I know I'm reaching) To reiterate Game is totally stable in cell transitions, combat, travelling open world Ctds while randomly in menus, when i try to loot certain corpses, when i try to trade with certain merchants, belethor being the main (im sure there are others) I've scoured google and these issues seem to be unheard of.  Same with Asis causing ctds for no reason at start up (which is still deavtivated).

Thanks Aiyen, also it seems like my ctds happen in and shortly after using menus/items lists/talk windows. Â For example it crashes everytime I try to initiate trade with Belethor.

Aiyen edit: Added spoiler tag for you, please in the future remember to use them. In order to find various codes, just search for BBcode and you will get lists of all commands. It will make life a lot easier for all! Papyrus logs are just an eye sore! :)Â

Log back in for like a minute and get a ctd for no reason...I give up. Â What I'll probably do is just post my boss log and load order and if anyone has any ideas I'll be glad to hear them. Active Mod Files:

Hey man, yeh I got rid of ASIS, tried to continue a save, ctd. Â Started a new game with alternative life (imperial legion beginning - new char 2hand sword/light armour/fire mage). Â The alternate life mod really is brilliant, author deserves a reward. Â Ran all the way to the first mission, completed first mission and handed it in...no ctds or glitches...really good sign. Â I will give Skyre a serious look over as I trust your advice and I have heard of it a few times before. Â At this point I'm a little taxed so I'm just going to stability test this time bomb of a game for another day or two; also gonna start sending off endorsements. Â

Well gentleman it isn't running the way I want it to (I was able to enter game because i disabled asis.esp). Â But I can say with confidence my invisible animal issue is gone. Â I logged in, ran outside to the combat zone with all the wolves, all the wolves that were previously invisible now were very visible corpses. Â As for asis I guess my only option is to run individual skyproc patch with different selections and see if any combination works. Â I even looked in Wyre Bash to double check its master list...everything is fine; if it refuses to work after that, seeing how Ive exhausted all other options I will have to say goodbye to asis. Â It will be missed because the extra spawns and enemy AI boosts/options made the game very fun for me.

-tried to run asis independently, would not -redownloaded asis -asis then ran independently -still ctd on startup -now running asis and the other two through sum, this time asis is running with the other two If it ctds on startup I will have to I guess...Its just incredibly messed that it worked fine yesterday and now it decides to go haywire once I go through an entirely unrelated and lengthy repair job of a few other mods.

Ok I was wrong again, It runs when I disable asis dependency and asis esp...wtf honestly. Â Having a really hard time making sense of this one...maybe SUM is installing it incorrectly? :S Â Maybe my best bet is to run each skyproc patcher seperately.