CTD Randomly When in "Potion" Section of Inventory

[thunderclam]

Just what it says on the title. I tried figuring this out on my own since it only happens very infrequently with no consistent trigger that I can detect. I don't believe I have any mods that affect potions except for the STEP Extended mods, but here's my load order anyway:

 

 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
AzarHair.esm
EFFCore.esm
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
moonpath.esm
Omegared99-Compilation.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Bandanas of Skyrim.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp
BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
KatanaCrafting.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
CraftableHoods.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
BFSEffects.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
WyldMenuPlugMale.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
FollowerCompatibility.esp
Paralyze.esp
Footprints.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
Beards.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
VioLens.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
3DNPC.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
FreckleMania.esp
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp
Pauldrons.esp
ShootingStars.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RaceMenuOverlays.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
Bucklers Only.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
ADS.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp
Rainbows.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
Really Radiant Raiment.esp
SkyUI.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Point The Way.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
HearthfireChimneysFalskaar.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
VHVP.esp
WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
IHSS.esp
Unique Uniques.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
CCF_RND_Patch.esp
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
WVExpansion.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Cloaks.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
NightingaleArrows.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Inigo.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
LostLongSwords.esp
ThalmorStandalone.esp
BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
Glass Variants.esp
ELFX - Moonpath.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
TrissArmorRetextured.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
HearthfireChimneys.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp
Shortcuts.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Wulfharth's Dragonbone Weapons.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
skyforgedShields.esp
iHUD.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
randomthunder.esp
skyforgedWeapons.esp
STEP Extended Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
AOS_Reduced_Reverb_Addon.esp

 

[TechAngel85]

STEP mods are only textures so they should not cause this.

[thunderclam]

Any ideas, TechAngel? Could it be a SkyUI problem of some kind? Too many potions in my inventory, kind of thing?

Edited May 14, 2015 by thunderclam

[EntropyZ]

I remember having the same type of problem before, and I'm not sure how I got rid of it. I don't know if it was potion (I did have loads of items), it might have been. I wish I kept a log of every CTD I came across and fixed, I'm feeling stupid now, what if some old CTD comes to haunt me later... But the chance of that is very low because most of the mods I use are either made or updated during and after 2013.

 

But, this problem seems so old like I had this back in 2012/2013, mods back then had so many bugs and conflicts a lot time and the unofficial patches were updating constantly during that time and Bethesda were still working on patches. The rapid updates made my save games increasingly unstable and put me off playing Skyrim for a long time, well until I remember what I have been missing.

 

I wonder if any old forum threads exist anywhere that report how to get rid of this issue. I'm kind of surprised that during this day and age there are still some Skyrim mods/patches used which are really outdated, or... mods that slow the game down and bloat save games slowly, and later you realize that it is too late to go back and change something.

 

Having a second look at your load order, I can only say that it is time for a cleanup and get rid of some mods or pick an alternative, even for those mods that you can't go without and aren't in any of the S.T.E.P guides, plus being legitimately reported as buggy, slow or just outright non-compatible. Start a completely playthrough and rigorously test it to ensure you won't get CTDs like this when you worked so hard on your player character. Believe me, it's worth it even if it takes weeks or months, obviously you have to consider if you love Skyrim this much or have time to do this, it is really up to you how you want to go about this.

 

I wish I had an answer on this problem, but it's gone with the passage of time. I can only say good luck.

Edited May 14, 2015 by EntropyZ

[kryptopyr]

I've not run into this problem myself, but it seems like I remember seeing something that suggested CTDs could be caused by potions that didn't have any effects.  This was on a modding page somewhere that recommended always using a blank or dummy effect on potions to avoid this problem (if for whatever reason you didn't want them to have any active effects).  Not sure if that's the cause of your problem or not, but if you have any mods that add potions, it might be worth looking into.

[thunderclam]

That's bizarre. I don't think any of my mods explicitly add potions, is the thing. I mean, unless it's some extraneous part of one of the larger content mods I have? Does anything stand out from my load order?