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CTD - Compatibility issues?

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Hey, I'm totally new here and tbh I think this is the first time I've ever asked advice on a forum at all, so hopefully I'm not breaking any rules XD.

Basically I'm having issues with random CTDs, I scoured the forum and couldn't seem to find a fix that works for me.

I've read a few things, such as 3.1 GB ram issue, mod loading orders etc, but the fact is I'm really awful at this whole troubleshooting thing.

Below is my mod list, I was hoping someone might recognize a likely issue with compatibility or perhaps something I probably did wrong.

I should warn you, I (somewhat foolishly I suppose) installed everything without testing as I went, I did use the STEPS guide to begin with then added a few things I have either used before or wanted to try.

I really don't have the time to individually deactivate mods and wander around seeing if I CDT as I can walk around the wilderness for up to 20 minutes without having one, and I spent more time than I really should've installing the mods in the first place.

I've used BOSS to organize everything, and everything that needed cleaning has been (exuding mods that require dirty edits), but as for bash tags and things like that, way over my head (even when I tried to find instructions).

Oh one more thing, this is from a clean installation and a new game, only thing I did in game was configure the mods via MCM and activated Trade & Barter (I read somewhere thats buggy, or something?)

I really appreciate you guys reading this, and if you need any more info I can do my best to get it!

 

 

 

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

MagicDuelReborn.esm

moonpath.esm

SPIKE.esm

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Rainbows.esp

ADS.esp

BWS.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

randomthunder.esp

Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp

Thundering Shouts.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Dragonborn.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

RE_RealEstate.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Destructible_bottles.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

daedric_phelm.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Aurora.esp

BetterJorrvaskr.esp

Convenient Horse Herding.esp

Ebonvale.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Hunting in Skyrim.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

ArchmageTolfdir.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Civil War Repairs.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

dynamic fires.esp

DynamicMerchants.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Lawrens RNG Guards.esp

masser Size x0.7.esp

masser Size x2.0.esp

masser Size x2.5.esp

masser Size x1.2.esp

masser Size x1.5.esp

masser Size x1.1.esp

masser Size x0.9.esp

masser Size x0.8.esp

masser Size x0.5.esp

masser Size x1.3.esp

masser Size x1.4.esp

masser Size x3.0.esp

masser Size x0.6.esp

More Salt Please.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

secunda Size x2.5.esp

secunda Size x2.0.esp

secunda Size x1.5.esp

secunda Size x1.4.esp

secunda Size x0.8.esp

secunda Size x0.7.esp

secunda Size x0.6.esp

secunda Size x0.5.esp

secunda Size x1.1.esp

secunda Size x1.3.esp

secunda Size x3.0.esp

secunda Size x0.9.esp

secunda Size x1.2.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

wizDynamicThings.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

DynamicWard.esp

GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell_DLC.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

MagicDuelReborn - Shouts.esp

Realistic crime report radius.esp

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

DynamicallyIncreasedWalkSpeed.esp

Beards.esp

3DNPC.esp

Inigo.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

FollowerWander2.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

FollowerWander2Serana.esp

moveitLWT.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

getSnowy.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

WATER Falskaar.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp

CollegeOfWinterholdGloryv.1.6.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

ETaC - Complete HF Patch.esp

ETaC - Smelters.esp

ETaC - LoS Patch.esp

 

 

Thanks again!

P.S. If you can think of any mods that would improve my game further, let me know :P

P.P.S Forgot to mention, I created a character and DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field was working, didn't like the character after about 5 mins, deleted the save and called it a night. Next day, made a new character but DYNAVISION (though viewable in MCM) doesn't seem to be having any effect. Not sure if info is helpful, but I haven't noticed any other issues with bugs though admittedly, I haven't really ventured far away from Helgen yet.

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I'd be surprised if anyone would NOT have CTDs with that kind of modlist. You really need to reduce the amount of gameplay/scripted mods, starting first of all with warzones.

 

Why don't you first do a STEP core install, follow it to the letter, and see if that works? Then add a non-STEP or STEP-extended mod one at a time. You didn't follow the STEP instructions properly, seeing as you have more than 20 secunda/masser esps whereas it should be one of each. You also didn't run BOSS or didn't run it properly. No offense but I doubt anyone can help you with a modlist like that, especially since you don't even have the basics setup in a proper manner. Start with STEP Core only, you won't regret it.

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I'll be honest, the only thing I understood about that is "remove Warzones".

STEP core install? I assumed thats what I did?

I made the changes to the ini files as listed in the guide and then installed each of the mods to the specifications given (HQ, LQ, 1024 etc)

non-STEP/STEP-extended... no idea.

How does one properly run BOSS? I used BOSS gui and then followed by running BOSS through NMM.

Sorry to seem ignorant, but this is really the only game I've ever modded since Morrowind, and that was a lot simpler.

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You should only install the mods on the STEP guide at your first go.

Anything outside of that then you need to put more time into learning how modding works, since most of the time it will require more work to be compatible with everything else.

For example you have getsnowy, and wet and cold. Wet and cold already contain what getsnowy does so there is no need to install it.

 

Also you seem to have just manually installed EVERYTHING in alot of mods, and activated all of its .esp´s. Most of those mods come with different choices. Here the moons are a good example... you have installed all its .esp´s which makes no sense when you think about it. You can only resize the moons to one size not 20 at the same time, so again you just have a lot of wasted .esp´s which make your game more unstable.

 

Also you have installed so many scripted mods and mods that add new stuff to the game world, that it would be impossible to ever get it all working stable for even 1 hour.

 

In general there is just so many things wrong with that list that it would be easier to just say "start over" and only install the mods in the guide. When you have learned more about how modding works, then you can start to add in those more complicated mods.

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Sorry if I didn't explain it better, but modding is hard in the beginning and you'll need to learn what a lot of things mean - most of us had to go through that some point in time.You can identify STEP:Core mods by the green colored bar to the left of the mod name. Everything else can be considered extended.

 

Also I would advise you to use Mod Organizer instead of NMM. For setting up Mod Organizer, you can follow the Skyrim Revisited guide parts "script extenders" as well as 3.1, 3.3, 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6. https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited

 

I agree with Aiyen. It's best you remove all mods and also reinstall skyrim so you can ensure it is clean. If you use MO and follow the SR guide directions as I mentioned then this will be the only time you'll have to do this as you will have a permanently clean Skyrim profile in MO to which you can always go back.

 

EDIT: Also check this https://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:Mod_Organizer

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Thanks for your replies guys, I really wanted to avoid reinstalling for time reasons so I got rid of a couple of mods that have a lot of scripts such as warzone, had a go with Wrye Bash, tried fixing everything up and my only stability problem seemed to be once using the forge, but this was after around 2 hours of play time and hasnt happened since. Thanks for your posts they were actually really helpful in directing me where I was going wrong, I think I've just been very lucky that I've managed to salvage this game without having to reinstall (though I fully expect future issues), so anyone reading this later on, do your homework and don't rush it like I did!

Thanks again guys.

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If this helps below is a correctly ordered CORE STEP and the STEP Extended load order.

 

CORE

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

SPIKE.esm

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

Point The Way.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_guard_helm.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_MultiMod_DLCPatch.esp

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

WATER Falskaar.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeopleCompatability.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

EXTENDED

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

SPIKE.esm

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Rainbows.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

randomthunder.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 1_5x Brighter.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Point The Way.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

imp_guard_helm.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

MIDFollowMeCloser.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

dynamic fires.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

masser Size x0.5.esp

More Salt Please.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.esp

secunda Size x0.5.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_MultiMod_DLCPatch.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

BFSEffects.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DG.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

WATER Falskaar.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeopleCompatability.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

 

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