CTD, maybe Ill try a merged patch?

[Copywrite85]

Hey guys.  It's been a long road but I Have skyrim revisited with some additions installed.  All day yesterday I was suffering memory related CTDS, until two members helped me with DDSOPT.  I suffered one CTD last night in a cave.  I ran around white run and horsed it from there to a cave so I am positive my mem related issues are over (mem peaks at 1800 now...incredible), the CTD was very disheartening though...seemed to be completely random as well.  I have a few outstanding issues that I figured I would try to get some feedback on.

 

1. CTD - maybe I will try a merged patch; I realized when I hit generate FNIS for users there was 1 warning which said I had an outdated Skyrim...I ignored it...could this be a big problem?  I also realized when doing all that weird TES5EDIT stuff for one entry in what I believe was "live an alternate life" the node turned red from green after following instructions...I sincerely hope if something went wrong there it wouldn't ruin my entire game...could it?  Could my random CTD issue (I experienced 1 in about an hour of running around testing DRAM usage) just be a by product of trying to continue an old save (I did do the SKSE clear invalidation entry as instructed)?

2. Extremely long skse launch from mod organizer - When you look at my load order you will realize I have Skyrim linked to the skyrim folder rather than the Mod organizer/mods folder...could this be the reason?

3. Invisible giant with purple axe - I'm fairly certain I know the cause for this.  I optimized the entire Mod organizer/mods folder at 1 time then transferred it over...I have a back up of all the original files though.  I am thinking of copying over the original automatic variant packs over again should fix this?

4. Really wanting to add ASIS back to my load order, if anyone has any experience with ASIS for Skyrim revisited and used in conjuction with enhanced enemy ai I would love to hear it

Thanks guys, cheers

 

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27  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
28  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
29  DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
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33  ShootingStars.esp
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[statmonster]

No, it's because it hasn't been updated since the new version(s) came out.

[Copywrite85]

Ok, well im in the process of freshly installing and reprocessing all of skytest, av and immersive creatures.  If this doesn't work guess ill be stuck playing with invisible wolves.

[Copywrite85]

Now im just crashing on startup with no, message, error logs in wyrebash/tes5edit/or boss. I can only think of two possible reasons.

1. maybe i need to remake AM-SkyTEST Patch.esp because it was made before I repaired skytest.

2. The rar files for the wolverine av package on nexus are broken so I was incapable of downloading them...I was surpised to see they were still in the SUM AV options...maybe disabling them will stop this.

[statmonster]

If you are crashing on startup (i.e. before you have a chance to choose to load an existing save or start a new game) it's almost certainly a missing master issue.

 

Look in WB and see if you have any mods with a red background.

 

Failure to rebuild merged patches and bashed batches or to rerun any java Skyproc/SUM patches can often cause this. Try deactivating all these and see if you get past the loading process.

 

Is your SKSE/SkyUI up to date and matching your version of Skyrim and each other? (3.1.16, 4.1 and 9.19.32 are the current ones I think...)

 

Try disabling the AM-Skytest patch and AV (or SUM) ESPs (and checking that no mods turned red in WB when you did this) and then loading the game - if it loads then your issue was one of these had an error or was missing a master.

[phazer11]

Another likely cause is running an overlay (FPS OSD) from say MSI-Afterburner with an ENB. Skyrim Performance Monitor's overlay seems to be just fine though (although it seems to cause the in-game ENB settings screen to cease functioning).

[Copywrite85]

Hey guys, I disabled bashed and AM-Skytest and it launched.  So I rebuilt AM-Skytest/bashed patch and am currently running all the sum again.  Should be fine now. Hopefully ppl read this and learn what NOT to do from me.

[phazer11]

Well do you have Ars Metallica and SkyTEST installed and enabled?

[Copywrite85]

Nope still ctding...yes I do.

[Copywrite85]

Ok I was wrong again, It runs when I disable asis dependency and asis esp...wtf honestly.  Having a really hard time making sense of this one...maybe SUM is installing it incorrectly? :S  Maybe my best bet is to run each skyproc patcher seperately.

[phazer11]

It's probably just ASIS IIRC it's very... dated I guess you'd call it. You tried following Iroha's guide and cutting out the bits about SkyRe and the magic mods, etc.?

[Copywrite85]

It's probably just ASIS IIRC it's very... dated I guess you'd call it. You tried following Iroha's guide and cutting out the bits about SkyRe and the magic mods etc.?

-tried to run asis independently, would not

-redownloaded asis

-asis then ran independently

-still ctd on startup

-now running asis and the other two through sum, this time asis is running with the other two

If it ctds on startup I will have to I guess...Its just incredibly messed that it worked fine yesterday and now it decides to go haywire once I go through an entirely unrelated and lengthy repair job of a few other mods.

[Copywrite85]

Well gentleman it isn't running the way I want it to (I was able to enter game because i disabled asis.esp).  But I can say with confidence my invisible animal issue is gone.  I logged in, ran outside to the combat zone with all the wolves, all the wolves that were previously invisible now were very visible corpses.  As for asis I guess my only option is to run individual skyproc patch with different selections and see if any combination works.  I even looked in Wyre Bash to double check its master list...everything is fine; if it refuses to work after that, seeing how Ive exhausted all other options I will have to say goodbye to asis.  It will be missed because the extra spawns and enemy AI boosts/options made the game very fun for me.

[phazer11]

There's always SkyRe it makes things much tougher. I mean I had to go down in game difficulty from Master to Adept until I got used to things and now I'm playing on expert but it's very (very) unforgiving.

[Copywrite85]

There's always SkyRe it makes things much tougher. I mean I had to go down in game difficulty from Master to Adept until I got used to things and now I'm playing on expert but it's very (very) unforgiving.

Hey man, yeh I got rid of ASIS, tried to continue a save, ctd.  Started a new game with alternative life (imperial legion beginning - new char 2hand sword/light armour/fire mage).  The alternate life mod really is brilliant, author deserves a reward.  Ran all the way to the first mission, completed first mission and handed it in...no ctds or glitches...really good sign.  I will give Skyre a serious look over as I trust your advice and I have heard of it a few times before.  At this point I'm a little taxed so I'm just going to stability test this time bomb of a game for another day or two; also gonna start sending off endorsements.  

[phazer11]

If you get rid of a mod especially one like ASIS you SHOULD make a new game. At the very least follow one of the save file cleaning guides. I think there are a few on the forums here or the wiki.