CTD, maybe Ill try a merged patch?

[Copywrite85]

Hey guys.  It's been a long road but I Have skyrim revisited with some additions installed.  All day yesterday I was suffering memory related CTDS, until two members helped me with DDSOPT.  I suffered one CTD last night in a cave.  I ran around white run and horsed it from there to a cave so I am positive my mem related issues are over (mem peaks at 1800 now...incredible), the CTD was very disheartening though...seemed to be completely random as well.  I have a few outstanding issues that I figured I would try to get some feedback on.

 

1. CTD - maybe I will try a merged patch; I realized when I hit generate FNIS for users there was 1 warning which said I had an outdated Skyrim...I ignored it...could this be a big problem?  I also realized when doing all that weird TES5EDIT stuff for one entry in what I believe was "live an alternate life" the node turned red from green after following instructions...I sincerely hope if something went wrong there it wouldn't ruin my entire game...could it?  Could my random CTD issue (I experienced 1 in about an hour of running around testing DRAM usage) just be a by product of trying to continue an old save (I did do the SKSE clear invalidation entry as instructed)?

2. Extremely long skse launch from mod organizer - When you look at my load order you will realize I have Skyrim linked to the skyrim folder rather than the Mod organizer/mods folder...could this be the reason?

3. Invisible giant with purple axe - I'm fairly certain I know the cause for this.  I optimized the entire Mod organizer/mods folder at 1 time then transferred it over...I have a back up of all the original files though.  I am thinking of copying over the original automatic variant packs over again should fix this?

4. Really wanting to add ASIS back to my load order, if anyone has any experience with ASIS for Skyrim revisited and used in conjuction with enhanced enemy ai I would love to hear it

Thanks guys, cheers

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
06  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
07  SPIKE.esm
08  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
09  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 1.3.2c]
0A  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
0B  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
0C  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
0D  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
0E  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
0F  Rainbows.esp
10  Clanking Armor.esp
11  IHSS.esp
12  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
13  Thundering Shouts.esp
14  mintylightningmod.esp
15  MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
16  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
17  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
18  TradeBarter.esp
19  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
1A  Ars Metallica.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1B  Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1C  Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1D  Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1E  Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
1F  Better Embers.esp
20  BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
21  Bring Out Your Dead.esp  [Version 1.1.7]
22  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
23  ClamsDropPearls.esp
24  Dead Body Collision.esp
25  Disease Descriptions.esp
26  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
27  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
28  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
29  DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
2A  fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp  [Version 1.0]
2B  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp
2C  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
2D  marriagedynamicoutfits.esp
2E  Moss Rocks.esp
2F  ORM-Arvak.esp
30  PilgrimsDelight.esp
31  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.1a]
32  Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
33  ShootingStars.esp
34  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.0]
35  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6]
36  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
37  SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp  [Version 1.1]
38  SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp  [Version 4.4]
39  Traps Make Noise.esp
3A  two_handed_rebalance.esp
3B  Convenient Horses.esp
3C  Destructible_bottles.esp
3D  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
3E  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
3F  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
40  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
41  Footprints.esp
42  Footprints - Ash.esp
43  Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp
44  Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp
45  SkyRealism - Simple Save System - OOC - 5 min.esp  [Version 1.0]
46  towConversation.esp
47  WetandCold.esp
48  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
49  SkyUI.esp
4A  iHUD.esp
4B  towPov.esp
4C  Cloaks.esp
4D  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
4E  1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp  [Version 2.3]
4F  Elemental Staves.esp
50  ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
51  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
52  imp_guard_helm.esp
53  imp_helm.esp
54  imp_helm_imp.esp
55  imp_helm_dawn.esp
56  Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
57  Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
58  Valor Armor.esp
59  Dr_Bandolier.esp
5A  Dr_BandolierDG.esp
5B  Lock Overhaul.esp
5C  DeadlyDragons.esp
5D  Gildergreen Regrown.esp  [Version 1.2.5]
5E  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
5F  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
60  SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
61  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.4]
62  towBlockSteal.esp
63  SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
64  360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
65  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
66  AchieveThat.esp
67  Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
68  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
69  BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
6A  BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
6B  BlockSparkles.esp
6C  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
6D  CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
6E  Distant DetailHF.esp
6F  DiversePriests.esp
70  DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
71  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
72  Headtracking.esp
73  Immersive Weapons.esp
74  masser Size x0.5.esp
75  NonEssentialChildren.esp
76  BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
77  SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
78  secunda Size x0.5.esp
79  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
7A  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp
7B  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp
7C  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
7D  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
7E  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
7F  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
80  BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
81  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
82  Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
83  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
84  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
85  WeaponsArmorFixes_MultiMod_DLCPatch.esp
86  Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 1.1]
87  AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
88  Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
89  RealisticRoomRental.esp
8A  BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp
8B  RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp
8C  RRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
8D  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
8E  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
8F  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02]
90  ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
91  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
92  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
93  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
94  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
95  RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
96  RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
97  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
98  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
99  ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp
9A  Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp
9B  SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp
9C  SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
9D  SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
9E  SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
9F  SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp
A0  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
A1  Better Vampires.esp
A2  ajd_allowmultipleregift.esp
A3  Predator Vision.esp
A4  WerewolfMastery.esp
A5  BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp
A6  HitStop.esp
A7  TKRecoil.esp
A8  BetterMagic_FULL.esp
A9  BFSEffects.esp
AA  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
AB  DeadlyCombat.esp
AC  DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
AD  DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp
AE  DeadlyCombat_NoStaminaChanges.esp
AF  DeadlyCombat_NoAttackDistance.esp
B0  ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
B1  Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
B2  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
B3  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
B4  ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
B5  ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
B6  ABT - Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow).esp
B7  Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
B8  Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
B9  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
BA  Beards.esp
BB  Brows.esp
BC  Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
BD  SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp  [Version 1.4]
BE  Blaze Of Eventide.esp
BF  moveitLWT.esp
C0  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
C1  BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
C2  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.3a]
C3  BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
C4  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
C5  [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +DG-DB.esp
C6  Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
C7  WATER.esp
C8  WATER Plants.esp
C9  WATER DB Waves.esp
CA  Atlas Map Markers.esp
CB  Atlas Blackreach.esp
CC  Atlas Dawnguard.esp
CD  Atlas Hearthfire.esp
CE  Atlas Dragonborn.esp
CF  SPTConsistentOlderPeopleCompatability.esp
D0  DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
D1  RRR-RLO Patch.esp
D2  SOS-RRR-RLO Patch.esp
D3  RRR-BOYD Patch.esp
D4  RUPPB-DBE Patch.esp
D5  AM-SkyTEST Patch.esp
D6  AM-SMIM Patch.esp
D7  DEBV-ABT Patch.esp
D8  WAF-ABT Patch.esp
D9  ICS-EBT Patch.esp
DA  SOS-BOE Patch.esp
DB  SOS-AMM Patch.esp
DC  ASG-AWE Patch.esp
DD  AS-SOS Patch.esp
DE  AS-RLO Patch.esp
DF  AS-RLO-SOS.esp
E0  AS-GDO Patch.esp
E1  BV-RLO Patch.esp
E2  TCIY-BOYD Patch.esp
E3  TCIY-BCS Patch.esp
E4  TCIY-BAD Patch.esp
E5  Unique Region Names.esp  [Version 5]
E6  AS-URN Patch.esp
E7  SOS-URN Patch.esp
E8  General Patch.esp
E9  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
EA  Automatic Variants.esp
EB  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

[Copywrite85]

One more thing; I have added Immersive armors and Immersive weapons to my SR because I feel they are 100% essential.  Do you guys see any problems arising from trying to add Omegareds armor pack?  How about the new Jaysus swords?  Not very important, just figured I'd throw it out there.

[statmonster]

Don't get disheartened by the odd random crash. You cannot eliminate them all, and the effort to do so is wasted. If you get it down to one crash per several hours it's probably fine - especially if you can't repeat them.

 

FNIS will always say you have an outdated Skyrim when run through MO - ignore.

[Aiyen]

1: The Fnis warning can be ignored.

The colors in Tes5edit can sometimes go from green to red, remember that it just compares values, it has no intelligent way of telling if a change you are making is sound or not.

Never play on old saves, it is just a bad practice to get into. Make your mod profile in MO and start a game using it. If you want to make alterations then make a new profile. Pure texture and mesh mods are the exception, those you can change and alter to your hearts content.

 

2. Perhaps. In general then what you have done is counter productive since the point in using MO is to keep the vanilla install clean of mod file data.

However the longer your mod list the longer the load times. This is inevitable no matter what you do.

 

3. You have installed Skyrim Immersive Creatures with the external FOMOD installer and as such it has not installed all the textures and meshes etc. Install using the integrated FOMOD installer in MO. After this verify that there is indeed a textures folder etc present in the mod directory.

 

4. ASIS is getting really old by now, and most of its features will bring about more instability to the game. If you just want the AI then you might as well use another of the AI mods out there since they essentially do the same thing. Otherwise the only thing in a pure SR install you need to add to its block list are the other Skyproc patchers. Especially the AV one or you will not see certain textures inside the game at all.

 

Weapons and armor: The more stuff you add to the game the more unstable it gets. By adding all those weapon and armor mods then you also allow them to spawn at will, which will cause more memory to be used. If you cannot live without them, but still get an unstable game experience then make sure the textures are only 1k in resolution etc.

[Copywrite85]

You guys are extremely helpful.  Ok So what I have done is checked my av packages folder...it was missing a number of packages that were being populated by the list of the SUM installer.  I transplanted all the missing packages and am about to run SUM again.  I will not be installing Jaysus or Omegared99, thanks for the tip; they would be nice but both immersive gear packages are definitely enough.  I truly love asis, now that I have enemy AI I will waive the ai features of asis but install it with immersive patrols encounter zones.  I will keep what you have said in mind and be ready to get rid of it if I see excessive instability.  I am going to try a merged patch,  I have added about 15 esps since Skyrim Revisited (a MO profile I still have in tact, the 1 I am tampering with I call 'Skyrim Perfected').  Maybe the merged patch will handle the extra mods which is obviously excluded by all the little custom patches I have, that were made previous to the new mods' introduction to load order.  I will also double check to see if immersive creatures is installed properly.  cheers.

[Copywrite85]

Also I have a sneaking suspicion this save game mod may have caused my ctd https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21695//?.  I remember in New Vegas, the game crashed because of the ingrained save system and as per gophers instructions I dld a third party one.  Maybe this isn't a good approach for skyrim?

[statmonster]

When you run SUM through MO it moves all the AV packages around - I think you will now find them in the sub-folders in MO/Overwrite.

 

My thought on Immersive Weapons/Armor etc. is that they have some really nice stuff but also some pretty dubious stuff (at least to my taste). being a compendium the styles are quite different and to my mind jarring. I would probably go with just adding a few of the items rather than the dozens each adds - but that is too much work!

[Copywrite85]

OK Aiyen...looks like you were on to something with Immersive creatures.  Checked my mod folder...it was empty, which is silly because I did use FOMOD the first time.  Downloaded both of them again as per SR instructions with the second main file merging with the first...I noticed there was a picture of the axe wielding giant I saw an invisible version of in game lol.  Well anyways I just checked my mod directory and Skyrim Immersive creatures is now populated :)  cheers.  

[Copywrite85]

Ok, So i just fired it up.  Ran from white run via horse to the same cave and fought a few baddies inside, no ctds no missing textures (only played for about 12 minutes or so thought).  Ill be back in a few hours after more testing, but at least for now everything seems to be in order.  Here is my updates load order. It's worth noting I removed leveled lists from the merged patch as I wanted it to be handled by the Bashed patch. I also did not use the deactivate esp option for the bashed patch because I have noticed it affects functionality of certain mods, at the very least it stopped auto unequip helmet from working.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
06  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
07  SPIKE.esm
08  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
09  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 1.3.2c]
0A  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
0B  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
0C  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
0D  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
0E  Better Dynamic Snow.esp
0F  Rainbows.esp
10  Clanking Armor.esp
11  IHSS.esp
12  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
13  Thundering Shouts.esp
14  mintylightningmod.esp
15  MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
16  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
17  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
18  TradeBarter.esp
19  83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
1A  Ars Metallica.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1B  Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1C  Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1D  Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 1.2.0]
1E  Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
1F  Better Embers.esp
20  BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
21  Bring Out Your Dead.esp  [Version 1.1.7]
22  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
23  ClamsDropPearls.esp
24  Dead Body Collision.esp
25  Disease Descriptions.esp
26  DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
27  DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
28  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
29  DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
2A  fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp  [Version 1.0]
2B  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp
2C  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
2D  marriagedynamicoutfits.esp
2E  Moss Rocks.esp
2F  ORM-Arvak.esp
30  PilgrimsDelight.esp
31  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.1a]
32  Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
33  ShootingStars.esp
34  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.0]
35  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6]
36  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
37  SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp  [Version 1.1]
38  SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp  [Version 4.4]
39  Traps Make Noise.esp
3A  two_handed_rebalance.esp
3B  Convenient Horses.esp
3C  Destructible_bottles.esp
3D  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
3E  Character Creation Overhaul.esp
3F  Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
40  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
41  Footprints.esp
42  Footprints - Ash.esp
43  Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp
44  Ket_PictureLoadscreens.esp
45  SkyRealism - Simple Save System - OOC - 5 min.esp  [Version 1.0]
46  towConversation.esp
47  WetandCold.esp
48  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
49  SkyUI.esp
4A  iHUD.esp
4B  towPov.esp
4C  Cloaks.esp
4D  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
4E  1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp  [Version 2.3]
4F  Elemental Staves.esp
50  ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
51  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
52  imp_guard_helm.esp
53  imp_helm.esp
54  imp_helm_imp.esp
55  imp_helm_dawn.esp
56  Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
57  Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
58  Valor Armor.esp
59  Dr_Bandolier.esp
5A  Dr_BandolierDG.esp
5B  ASIS-Encounter Zones.esp
5C  Lock Overhaul.esp
5D  DeadlyDragons.esp
5E  Gildergreen Regrown.esp  [Version 1.2.5]
5F  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
60  When Vampires Attack.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
61  SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
62  The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp  [Version 1.2.4]
63  towBlockSteal.esp
64  SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
65  360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
66  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
67  AchieveThat.esp
68  Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
69  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
6A  BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
6B  BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
6C  BlockSparkles.esp
6D  CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp
6E  CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp
6F  Distant DetailHF.esp
70  DiversePriests.esp
71  DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
72  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
73  Headtracking.esp
74  Immersive Weapons.esp
75  masser Size x0.5.esp
76  NonEssentialChildren.esp
77  BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
78  SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
79  secunda Size x0.5.esp
7A  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
7B  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp
7C  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp
7D  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
7E  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
7F  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
80  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
81  BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
82  Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
83  Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
84  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
85  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
86  WeaponsArmorFixes_MultiMod_DLCPatch.esp
87  Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp  [Version 1.1]
88  AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
89  Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
8A  RealisticRoomRental.esp
8B  BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp
8C  RRR_Hearthfire-Patch.esp
8D  RRR_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
8E  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23]
8F  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13]
90  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02]
91  ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
92  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
93  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
94  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
95  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
96  RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
97  RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp
98  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
99  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
9A  ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp
9B  Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp
9C  SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp
9D  SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
9E  SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
9F  SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp
A0  SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp
A1  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
A2  Better Vampires.esp
A3  ajd_allowmultipleregift.esp
A4  Predator Vision.esp
A5  WerewolfMastery.esp
A6  BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp
A7  HitStop.esp
A8  TKRecoil.esp
A9  BetterMagic_FULL.esp
AA  BFSEffects.esp
AB  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
AC  DeadlyCombat.esp
AD  DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp
AE  DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp
AF  DeadlyCombat_NoStaminaChanges.esp
B0  DeadlyCombat_NoAttackDistance.esp
B1  ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
B2  Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
B3  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
B4  CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
B5  ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
B6  ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
B7  ABT - Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow).esp
B8  Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
B9  Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
BA  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
BB  Beards.esp
BC  Brows.esp
BD  Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
BE  SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp  [Version 1.4]
BF  Blaze Of Eventide.esp
C0  moveitLWT.esp
C1  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
C2  BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
C3  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 2.3a]
C4  BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
C5  CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
C6  [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +DG-DB.esp
C7  Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
C8  WATER.esp
C9  WATER Plants.esp
CA  WATER DB Waves.esp
CB  Atlas Map Markers.esp
CC  Atlas Blackreach.esp
CD  Atlas Dawnguard.esp
CE  Atlas Hearthfire.esp
CF  Atlas Dragonborn.esp
D0  SPTConsistentOlderPeopleCompatability.esp
D1  DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
D2  RRR-RLO Patch.esp
D3  SOS-RRR-RLO Patch.esp
D4  RRR-BOYD Patch.esp
D5  RUPPB-DBE Patch.esp
D6  AM-SkyTEST Patch.esp
D7  AM-SMIM Patch.esp
D8  DEBV-ABT Patch.esp
D9  WAF-ABT Patch.esp
DA  ICS-EBT Patch.esp
DB  SOS-BOE Patch.esp
DC  SOS-AMM Patch.esp
DD  ASG-AWE Patch.esp
DE  AS-SOS Patch.esp
DF  AS-RLO Patch.esp
E0  AS-RLO-SOS.esp
E1  AS-GDO Patch.esp
E2  BV-RLO Patch.esp
E3  TCIY-BOYD Patch.esp
E4  TCIY-BCS Patch.esp
E5  TCIY-BAD Patch.esp
E6  Unique Region Names.esp  [Version 5]
E7  AS-URN Patch.esp
E8  SOS-URN Patch.esp
E9  General Patch.esp
EA  Merged Patch.esp
EB  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
EC  Automatic Variants.esp
ED  ASIS-Dependency.esp
EE  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
EF  ASIS.esp

 

 

If anyone has more info on SKSE location and launch time from MO thatd be great.  Cheers.

[phazer11]

I have talked to WilliamImm about this though in relation to SkyRe mods some of the compatibility patches for SkyRe overrule the bashed patch which if you're using say Unlimited Rings and Amulets is a problem. I don't believe it is a problem with the bashed patch per se but a problem with the load order of the bashed patch. Do you have any mods that are after your bashed patch .esp(besides SUM)?

[Copywrite85]

I have talked to WilliamImm about this though in relation to SkyRe mods some of the compatibility patches for SkyRe overrule the bashed patch which if you're using say Unlimited Rings and Amulets is a problem. I don't believe it is a problem with the bashed patch per se but a problem with the load order of the bashed patch. Do you have any mods that are after your bashed patch .esp(besides SUM)?

none at all, im not using skyre either.  My end load order is general patch, a myriad of sr compatability patches, merged patch-leveled list, bashed patch, sum patches+asis dependecy

[phazer11]

Well first off you did disable DUEL when you installed ASIS right? ASIS might be the reason some of the bashed patches changes aren't being carried over (never used ASIS so no idea)

[Copywrite85]

Well first off you did disable DUEL when you installed ASIS right? ASIS might be the reason some of the bashed patches changes aren't being carried over (never used ASIS so no idea)

I just use sum for skyproc patches, it installs them in a certain order...I just always assumed it was correct.  Interesting thing to think about though, I will look into it further when Im ready to do more testing.  Would you mind posting your load order for me phazer11?  It would be fun to see what a few of you guys are running an having success with.  Cheers.

[phazer11]

Well mine won't help you too much as I'm using SkyRe in addition to Skyrim Revisited as well as having disabled several mods. I posted it in my freeze thread though. I'm sure someone will post theirs though.

[statmonster]

It's worth noting I removed leveled lists from the merged patch as I wanted it to be handled by the Bashed patch.

 

Sharlikran is quite emphatic that you should not include leveled lists in your merged patch.  He has a video giving a how-to and his thoughts on building a merged patch.

[Copywrite85]

It's worth noting I removed leveled lists from the merged patch as I wanted it to be handled by the Bashed patch.

Sharlikran is quite emphatic that you should not include leveled lists in your merged patch.  He has a video giving a how-to and his thoughts on building a merged patch.

Yeh I got that bit of info from that video, its a great tutorial if you can extract the info you need from the long periods of fluff.