Need some help finding my issue

[7hr08ik]

Hey guys, im having a bit of trouble finding an issue im having with my game, an i couldn`t think of anywhere better to ask.

My issue is that im getting a few random CTD`s. But they only occur outside, and so far, only in the open (Not in cities)

I am running the game with SKSE 1.6.6, script dragon, Dawnguard, and Hearthfires. I know its only a work in prog, but i have recently updated my build with the S.T.E.P. WIP. When i re-sorted my mods i did it on a fresh install, and began a new game once i was ready. I am using NMM to download and update check my mods, but i am using wrye bash to do the install.

My mod list is a bit huge, but i have taken the SKSE list from \Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SKSE...

Loading mod list:
    (0 -> 0)    Skyrim.esm
    (1 -> 1)    Update.esm
    (2 -> 2)    Dawnguard.esm
    (3 -> 3)    HearthFires.esm
    (4 -> 4)    ApachiiHair.esm
    (5 -> 5)    ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
    (6 -> 6)    Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
    (7 -> 7)    moonpath.esm
    (8 -> 8)    More Interactive Items.ESM
    (9 -> 9)    More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM
    (10 -> 10)    More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM
    (11 -> 11)    SkyMoMod.esm
    (12 -> 12)    SPIKE.esm
    (13 -> 13)    fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
    (14 -> 14)    Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
    (15 -> 15)    Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
    (16 -> 16)    Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
    (17 -> 17)    ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
    (18 -> 18)    Better Dynamic Snow.esp
    (19 -> 19)    Rainbows.esp
    (20 -> 20)    BWS.esp
    (21 -> 21)    Clanking Armor.esp
    (22 -> 22)    Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
    (23 -> 23)    randomthunder.esp
    (24 -> 24)    Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp
    (25 -> 25)    Thundering Shouts.esp
    (26 -> 26)    EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
    (27 -> 27)    Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White - Big.esp
    (28 -> 28)    ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-1.esp
    (29 -> 29)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    (30 -> 30)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
    (31 -> 31)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
    (32 -> 32)    MintyLightningMod.esp
    (33 -> 33)    StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
    (34 -> 34)    83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
    (35 -> 35)    Ars Metallica.esp
    (36 -> 36)    Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
    (37 -> 37)    Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
    (38 -> 38)    Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
    (39 -> 39)    Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp
    (40 -> 40)    BirdsHFclean.esp
    (41 -> 41)    BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
    (42 -> 42)    Breaking and Entering.esp
    (43 -> 43)    Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
    (44 -> 44)    Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
    (45 -> 45)    ClamsDropPearls.esp
    (46 -> 46)    dbmisc.esp
    (47 -> 47)    DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
    (48 -> 48)    Immersive Battles.esp
    (49 -> 49)    Immersive Brigands.esp
    (50 -> 50)    Immersive Dawnguard.esp
    (51 -> 51)    Immersive Patrols.esp
    (52 -> 52)    Immersive Travelers.esp
    (53 -> 53)    Immersive Werewolves.esp
    (54 -> 54)    Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
    (55 -> 55)    More Craftables.esp
    (56 -> 56)    PilgrimsDelight.esp
    (57 -> 57)    RabbitsPlus.esp
    (58 -> 58)    Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
    (59 -> 59)    ShootingStars.esp
    (60 -> 60)    SkyMoMod Lore-Friendly Standard.esp
    (61 -> 61)    Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
    (62 -> 62)    SMDropLitTorch.esp
    (63 -> 63)    Valdacil's Item Sorting - Soul Gems.esp
    (64 -> 64)    Valdacil's Item Sorting - Books.esp
    (65 -> 65)    Valdacil's Item Sorting - Quest Unique and Trophy.esp
    (66 -> 66)    Valdacil's Item Sorting - Potions.esp
    (67 -> 67)    Valdacil's Item Sorting - Food.esp
    (68 -> 68)    YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp
    (69 -> 69)    Convenient Horses.esp
    (70 -> 70)    Destructible_bottles.esp
    (71 -> 71)    Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
    (72 -> 72)    Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
    (73 -> 73)    DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
    (74 -> 74)    Footprints.esp
    (75 -> 75)    IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
    (76 -> 76)    SkyUI.esp
    (77 -> 77)    iHUD.esp
    (78 -> 78)    Cloaks.esp
    (79 -> 79)    1nivWICCloaks.esp
    (80 -> 80)    1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
    (81 -> 81)    ConvenientCrossbows.esp
    (82 -> 82)    Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN.esp
    (83 -> 83)    Elemental Staves.esp
    (84 -> 84)    ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
    (85 -> 85)    hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
    (86 -> 86)    imp_helm.esp
    (87 -> 87)    imp_helm_imp.esp
    (88 -> 88)    imp_helm_dawn.esp
    (89 -> 89)    Malo_Waffen.esp
    (90 -> 90)    Remodeled Armor.esp
    (91 -> 91)    SummonAnimalPets_immersive.esp
    (92 -> 92)    viciousdawnbreaker.esp
    (93 -> 93)    ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp
    (94 -> 94)    DeadlyDragons.esp
    (95 -> 95)    DeadlyMonsters.esp
    (96 -> 96)    Beautiful Whiterun.esp
    (97 -> 97)    BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
    (98 -> 98)    moonpath_questdata.esp
    (99 -> 99)    RealisticWhiterun.esp
    (100 -> 100)    Run For Your Lives.esp
    (101 -> 101)    When Vampires Attack.esp
    (102 -> 102)    The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
    (103 -> 103)    SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
    (104 -> 104)    Masters of Death.esp
    (105 -> 105)    Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
    (106 -> 106)    BarbasLessAnnoying.esp
    (107 -> 107)    BetterQuestObjectives.esp
    (108 -> 108)    BlockSparkles.esp
    (109 -> 109)    Distant DetailHF.esp
    (110 -> 110)    dynamic fires.esp
    (111 -> 111)    Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
    (112 -> 112)    Immersive Weapons.esp
    (113 -> 113)    masser Size x0.5.esp
    (114 -> 114)    dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp
    (115 -> 115)    NonEssentialChilds.esp
    (116 -> 116)    ReadIt.esp
    (117 -> 117)    secunda Size x0.5.esp
    (118 -> 118)    SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
    (119 -> 119)    dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
    (120 -> 120)    dD-Dawnguard-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp
    (121 -> 121)    Soul Gems Differ - NS - E.esp
    (122 -> 122)    Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
    (123 -> 123)    Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
    (124 -> 124)    AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
    (125 -> 125)    dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
    (126 -> 126)    UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp
    (127 -> 127)    Predator Vision.esp
    (128 -> 128)    Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
    (129 -> 129)    BFSEffects.esp
    (130 -> 130)    DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
    (131 -> 131)    More Visible Soul Trap Effect.esp
    (132 -> 132)    Realistic crime report radius.esp
    (133 -> 133)    Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
    (134 -> 134)    The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp
    (135 -> 135)    SkyRe_Main.esp
    (136 -> 136)    SkyRe_Combat.esp
    (137 -> 137)    SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
    (138 -> 138)    SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
    (139 -> 139)    SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
    (140 -> 140)    SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
    (141 -> 141)    GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp
    (142 -> 142)    dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
    (143 -> 143)    Beards.esp
    (144 -> 144)    race+.esp
    (145 -> 145)    EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
    (146 -> 146)    UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
    (147 -> 147)    UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
    (148 -> 148)    UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
    (149 -> 149)    Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
    (150 -> 150)    SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
    (151 -> 151)    HousecarlWhiterun.esp
    (152 -> 152)    Height Adjusted Races with True Giants v5.esp
    (153 -> 153)    SkyRe_Races.esp
    (154 -> 154)    Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
    (155 -> 155)    getSnowy.esp
    (156 -> 156)    WATER.esp
    (157 -> 157)    RaceMenu.esp
    (158 -> 158)    SKSE Hotkeys.esp
    (159 -> 159)    WetandCold.esp
    (160 -> 160)    Bashed Patch, 0.esp
    (161 -> 161)    ReProccer.esp
    (162 -> 162)    Automatic Variants.esp
    (163 -> 163)    WTF.esp

I have BOSS checked everything, and TesEDIT`d everything needed. But i just can`t figure out where the instability is comming from. I have already gone through the list and removed every mod that i can live without. I am even running the game with the ATTK loader, set with APW, and not using any memory defrag options, just incase that was it.

But i am left with my issue, random outdoors CTD`s. I dont like to use fast travel so i can be spending a bit of time riding around from city to city. Every now and then as im riding it just CTD`s with no warning, no pause or anything. When i reload the game, i take the exact same route as i did before and it does not reproduce, so it cant be a static mod thats causing it. Im lost.

I am also getting a wierd bit of rainbow pixalated animals in the wilderness aswell, but i think that could just be one my AV packages.

If anyone could help me out it would be great.

[TechAngel85]

A random CTD that can't be reproduced by doing the exact same thing sounds to me like a script, software or hardware instability. However, if it only happens when riding in a cart while traveling then it could be a mod issue. Could you give us a run-down of you system hardware and include any information about components that are overclocked as well.

 

For starters, if you don't fast travel try disabling the fast travel mod you have install and see if that is the issue since it has something to do with traveling. If you can't pin-point the issues I would start ruling it out from being a mod by stripping my install down to STEP only mods then enable the additional mods a few at a time, test, and repeat. If the issue disappears with STEP only mods then you know it's a mod issue. If it doesn't then we can move on to settings, INIs, hardware, etc.

[Neovalen]

I would start by removing Script Dragon. I've always had much more ctd with it installed.

 

Most mod authors have moved to SKSE and with good reason.

[7hr08ik]

Well, i am thoroughly NOT IMPRESSED!!!

Ive spent a while going through ALL of my mods. I have removed every single mod from that i can bare to live without. I am running a fair few mods yes, but 90% of those are from STEP and are all installed in the correct order and with the correct patches.

Here is my new list of mods:

(0 -> 0)    Skyrim.esm
    (1 -> 1)    Update.esm
    (2 -> 2)    Dawnguard.esm
    (3 -> 3)    HearthFires.esm
    (4 -> 4)    ApachiiHair.esm
    (5 -> 5)    ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
    (6 -> 6)    ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
    (7 -> 7)    Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
    (8 -> 8)    moonpath.esm
    (9 -> 9)    More Interactive Items.ESM
    (10 -> 10)    More Interactive Items [Dawnguard].ESM
    (11 -> 11)    More Interactive Items [Hearthfire].ESM
    (12 -> 12)    SPIKE.esm
    (13 -> 13)    Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
    (14 -> 14)    Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
    (15 -> 15)    Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
    (16 -> 16)    Better Dynamic Snow.esp
    (17 -> 17)    Rainbows.esp
    (18 -> 18)    BWS.esp
    (19 -> 19)    Clanking Armor.esp
    (20 -> 20)    Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
    (21 -> 21)    randomthunder.esp
    (22 -> 22)    Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp
    (23 -> 23)    Thundering Shouts.esp
    (24 -> 24)    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp
    (25 -> 25)    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
    (26 -> 26)    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp
    (27 -> 27)    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
    (28 -> 28)    Warmer Magic Lights v2 - White - Big.esp
    (29 -> 29)    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
    (30 -> 30)    MintyLightningMod.esp
    (31 -> 31)    Fantasy Music Non-Replace.esp
    (32 -> 32)    StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
    (33 -> 33)    83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
    (34 -> 34)    Ars Metallica.esp
    (35 -> 35)    Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
    (36 -> 36)    Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
    (37 -> 37)    Auto Unequip Helmet.esp
    (38 -> 38)    BirdsHFclean.esp
    (39 -> 39)    BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
    (40 -> 40)    Bring Out Your Dead.esp
    (41 -> 41)    Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
    (42 -> 42)    Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp
    (43 -> 43)    ClamsDropPearls.esp
    (44 -> 44)    dbmisc.esp
    (45 -> 45)    DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
    (46 -> 46)    Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp
    (47 -> 47)    More Craftables.esp
    (48 -> 48)    morevillageanimals.esp
    (49 -> 49)    PilgrimsDelight.esp
    (50 -> 50)    RabbitsPlus.esp
    (51 -> 51)    Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
    (52 -> 52)    ShootingStars.esp
    (53 -> 53)    Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
    (54 -> 54)    SMDropLitTorch.esp
    (55 -> 55)    SwiftPotion.esp
    (56 -> 56)    YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp
    (57 -> 57)    Convenient Horses.esp
    (58 -> 58)    Destructible_bottles.esp
    (59 -> 59)    Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
    (60 -> 60)    Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
    (61 -> 61)    DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
    (62 -> 62)    Footprints.esp
    (63 -> 63)    WetandCold.esp
    (64 -> 64)    SkyUI.esp
    (65 -> 65)    iHUD.esp
    (66 -> 66)    Cloaks.esp
    (67 -> 67)    1nivWICCloaks.esp
    (68 -> 68)    1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
    (69 -> 69)    Elemental Staves.esp
    (70 -> 70)    ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
    (71 -> 71)    hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
    (72 -> 72)    imp_helm.esp
    (73 -> 73)    imp_helm_imp.esp
    (74 -> 74)    imp_helm_dawn.esp
    (75 -> 75)    KCEAssaultRifles.esp
    (76 -> 76)    Remodeled Armor.esp
    (77 -> 77)    viciousdawnbreaker.esp
    (78 -> 78)    ImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp
    (79 -> 79)    Lock Overhaul.esp
    (80 -> 80)    DeadlyDragons.esp
    (81 -> 81)    DeadlyMonsters.esp
    (82 -> 82)    BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
    (83 -> 83)    moonpath_questdata.esp
    (84 -> 84)    Run For Your Lives.esp
    (85 -> 85)    When Vampires Attack.esp
    (86 -> 86)    SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
    (87 -> 87)    The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
    (88 -> 88)    SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp
    (89 -> 89)    Masters of Death.esp
    (90 -> 90)    Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
    (91 -> 91)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp
    (92 -> 92)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp
    (93 -> 93)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Light Weight).esp
    (94 -> 94)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp
    (95 -> 95)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Light Weight).esp
    (96 -> 96)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp
    (97 -> 97)    Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp
    (98 -> 98)    Better Skill and Quest Books Names - BS.esp
    (99 -> 99)    BlockSparkles.esp
    (100 -> 100)    Distant DetailHF.esp
    (101 -> 101)    dynamic fires.esp
    (102 -> 102)    Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
    (103 -> 103)    Immersive Weapons.esp
    (104 -> 104)    masser Size x0.5.esp
    (105 -> 105)    dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp
    (106 -> 106)    NonEssentialChilds.esp
    (107 -> 107)    secunda Size x0.5.esp
    (108 -> 108)    dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
    (109 -> 109)    dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
    (110 -> 110)    Soul Gems Differ - NS - E.esp
    (111 -> 111)    Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
    (112 -> 112)    ETaC - Villages Complete.esp
    (113 -> 113)    ETaC - Morthal.esp
    (114 -> 114)    AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp
    (115 -> 115)    dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
    (116 -> 116)    UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp
    (117 -> 117)    Predator Vision.esp
    (118 -> 118)    Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
    (119 -> 119)    BFSEffects.esp
    (120 -> 120)    DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
    (121 -> 121)    More Visible Soul Trap Effect.esp
    (122 -> 122)    Realistic crime report radius.esp
    (123 -> 123)    Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
    (124 -> 124)    The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp
    (125 -> 125)    SkyRe_Main.esp
    (126 -> 126)    SkyRe_Combat.esp
    (127 -> 127)    SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
    (128 -> 128)    SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
    (129 -> 129)    SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
    (130 -> 130)    SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
    (131 -> 131)    GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp
    (132 -> 132)    Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
    (133 -> 133)    Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
    (134 -> 134)    Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
    (135 -> 135)    Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
    (136 -> 136)    dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
    (137 -> 137)    Beards.esp
    (138 -> 138)    race+.esp
    (139 -> 139)    3DNPC.esp
    (140 -> 140)    Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
    (141 -> 141)    SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
    (142 -> 142)    HousecarlWhiterun.esp
    (143 -> 143)    AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
    (144 -> 144)    Height Adjusted Races with True Giants v5.esp
    (145 -> 145)    SkyRe_Races.esp
    (146 -> 146)    Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
    (147 -> 147)    WATER.esp
    (148 -> 148)    RaceMenu.esp
    (149 -> 149)    Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp
    (150 -> 150)    Bashed Patch, 0.esp
    (151 -> 151)    ReProccer.esp
    (152 -> 152)    WTF.esp

I can play the game without any mods for hours and hours. And i have no issues.

I have removed scriptdragon as i dont use it.
I have stopped using ATTK but still use SKSE obv.

I have made yet another full fresh install, and a full fresh game with freshly updated and installed mods. There has to be something going on that i cant figure out. Im thinking that maybe skyre, or possibly deadly dragons is conflicting with one of the step mods.

I am going to take out HiAlgo boost now and see if that helps.

My system is as follows:

i5 2500k - OC`d to 4.3GHz (Running stable for a year now)
GTX275 - not OC`d
8GB Corsair dominator RAM
1Tb samsung HDD
60Gb Crucial M4 used as cache with IRST.

I have never had any problems with any of my hardware with any game or program EVER. I can run skyrim un-modded for days without it crashing but i want the added mods. There are possibly a couple more mods i can remove, like chimneysRW for eg.

Im going to have another run through the mod list and take out what i can. But there are a few that i refuse to take out, skyre, deadly dragons, immersive weapons/armours.

I need help figuring this out. I have the time available to try things out, but i am not going through each mod 1 by 1 and working it out. that will take months. There has to be something.

My game just randomly decides to CTD only outdoors, outside of cities. walking or riding. combat or not. The only thing i can come up with is maybe sounds, or possibly the weather, but if that were the case then surely it would be reproducable?

Please guys give me your help, im getting to the point where im just gonnasay f**k it and never play again

[ciddative]

I can't see any glaring issues with your load order. Only things off the top of my head is that I had a conflict between Footprints and my follower mod (extended follower framework) that caused some crashes - removing footprints solved that.

 

Other than that, could it be script related? Too many scripts running = bad.

 

Also did TES5edit come up with any errors or did it load your load order ok?

 

Hialgo boost wouldn't fix ctds - as far as I know, it just reduces resolution when moving.

 

EDIT: Would height adjusted races chenge the skeletons? Realistic ragdolls has a BOSS note saying there might be issues with modified skeletons iirc

 

EDIT2: If you do have to narrow it down, just uninstall each category or type of mods (landscape,effects,animations,overhauls etc) rathe thanone at a time. Sorry if this is obvious, but one at a time would be hellish!

[7hr08ik]

Im using AFT and never had any issues with it before, been uding it for ages, long before these issues.

 

I know scripts have been mentioned before, but i honestly wouldn`t know where to begin checking those out. Removing footprints wounds like a plan though, would explain why its only outside and not reproduceable, (can`t step in the exact same spot everytime)

 

What do you mean by TES5edit? Do i just load all the mods in one go and see what it says? coz ive done that and it says nothing.

 

I know HiAlgo boost doesn`t fix CTD`s, i use it coz im on a **** gpu and can`t afford a new one. But it helps with frame rates when im pushing all the extra textures in, just though it might be a cause for the random CTD`s.

 

 

 

I should also mention that i have just started a new game. I have no follower yet, infact all ive done is talk to the jarl in whiterun and head to Bleak Falls Barrow. Had 2 CTD`s one walking just outside riverwood on the road into riverwood (DID NOT REPRODUCE), and then another as i was climbing the hill to Bleak Falls barrow, riding a horse (DID NOT REPRODUCE)

 

Both times without follower, by myself, no combat starting or ending, i wasn`t sheathing or drawing weapons/magic. I was just simply moving forward. Thats the thing that annoys me the most, if it was specific i could fix it, but this is just random and irritating

[7hr08ik]

i know im going to have to narrow the field down, but i dont want to.....thats childish i know

 

BUT

 

Sometimes i can play for hours without anything, then suddenly it will CTD 2 or 3 times in a row. Other times i can only get half hour of gameplay. So even if i do narrow it down with groups, im still looking at a good week of testing and playing the game, then fixing the error, and starting all over again. But i think it`s gonna have to be done

[TechAngel85]

i know im going to have to narrow the field down, but i dont want to.....thats childish i know

 

BUT

 

Sometimes i can play for hours without anything, then suddenly it will CTD 2 or 3 times in a row. Other times i can only get half hour of gameplay. So even if i do narrow it down with groups, im still looking at a good week of testing and playing the game, then fixing the error, and starting all over again. But i think it`s gonna have to be done

Yep, that just comes with the territory of modding. Got to do what you got to do, to solve your issues.

[7hr08ik]

Grrr, damn this life of modding i`ve chosen!!!

[7hr08ik]

@ciddative

 

Sorry if this sounds like a total **** question. But what exactly do i do with TES5edit to test my load order, i know how to clean mods with it (and im only ever cleaning mods that boss says need it)

[ciddative]

re: tes5edit - I just meant load your whole mod list in tes5edit and see if it finishes loading with no errors. To be honest, this is just to help people who can't actually get in-game without crashes, so less use for you.

 

In terms of cleaning mods, BOSS won't pick up on every mod that might need cleaning, wrye bash has a mod checker that can scan for UDRs (can be seriously bad) and ITMs that a BOSS report will miss.

 

Although that would require getting to grips with wrye bash - a worthwhile but involved affair to start with.

 

You're not going to like it - but the only other method of investigation is to check each individual mod page for any mention of conflicts with other mods. Not so much texture mods, they shouldnt be causing your issues. But anything that modifies npc behaviour, changes meshes/landscapes. And yes, weather mods can come with heaps of issues if not followed to the letter.

 

Again, can't see any immediate issues with your load order, and the  2.2.1 step mods have been used for a while, so I'd say it might be one of your non-step mods...that's narrowed it a bit, right? :)

[Jason2112]

ATTK will not conflict with any mod you have. Ever, totally on a different level then mods.

[Salvador]

I had these type of issues before,

 

Fo me they were hardware related. Modded skyrim demands a lot more from your hardware than most games do.

What PSU do you have?

How much is your GTX275 OC'd?

Try reduce the OC on that. What I fear is that your hardware with modded skyrim pulls more power than your PSU can deliver. Hence allways outside and random.

If you have a beast of a PSU, than I don't know. These random events allways had to do with two things in my case, and allways with bethesda games (modded) RAM stability and PSU.

 

Good luck

 

EDIT: Oh, wait. You get CTD not complete computer crash right? Than it most probably is script error or something. In case of PSU or memory you get random computer crashes.

[7hr08ik]

Kool, turns out footprints and wet&cold doesn`t like my mod list, i know they should be fine, but im playing with SkyRe and OMG that creates some irritations.

 

@ciddative

I know how to check for UDR`s with Wrye Bash, but it wont check for ITM`s. id there something im missing? a setting somewhere?

 

What im doing is selecting all mods in the wrye bash mod list. right click and select scan for UDR,s. The resulting web page says, list with all UDR`s and ITM`s but only shows UDR`s.

 

The same thing when i create BOSS report, shows me all the mods with UDR`s but tells me it can`t scn for ITM`s