Two Year Old Save - New Computer - Possible to revive?

[TehPenguin]

Hello!
 
Skyrim Remaster made me nostalgic and I thought I'd jump in again into one of my most memorable playthroughs in Skyrim and breathe the nordic air once again.
The playthrough in question is a 90 hour save, used to be super stable(it crashed on me once or twice in that period), a slightly modified STEP setup, that I'd like to revive and continue playing, believe it or not.

Two things have changed though: the computer and the version of Skyrim, since Steam does not allow you to play the version of the game you want to(thanks Gaben).

 

I also haven't reinstalled everything I presumably installed when setting things up. I just copy-pasted the steam folder onto the SSD and changed the paths in Mod Organizer to fit the SSD drive.

 

THE PROBLEM: the game crashes at launch. I use the SKSE shortcut in MO. There are no missing ESPs. I can see the Menu Background for a brief second, not the menu itself, and then the window is gone.

 

Apologies if I come as a bit lazy. I remember fiddling with the game for weeks before I got myself the perfect, modded, game that ran like a dream. I remember how much time I've invested back then and I just don't have that time right now.

 

So the bottom line is:

1. could it be something simple where a tip from an experienced user nails the problem? My gut tells me I'm forgetting something simple yet crucial.
2. do I have to dive into things knee-deep once again to figure this out?
3. just simply forget it and start modding from scratch/don't bother playing skyrim?

 

Thank you very much in advance!

 

[spoiler=specs]

SKSE ver.1.9.32 (or so I think, the DLL is called skse_1_9_32.dll)

Mod Organizer ver.: 1.2.11

Win 10 Pro

i7-6800k

GTX 1060 6GB

32GB Ram

Sandisk x400 1TB SSD - Steam Library

 

[spoiler=loadorder]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

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26. AOS.esp
27. Dr_Bandolier.esp
28. Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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33. Cloaks.esp
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36. Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
37. Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
38. SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
39. Convenient Horses.esp
40. Cutting Room Floor.esp
41. Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
42. DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
43. Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp
44. ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
45. ORM-Arvak.esp
46. DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
47. Dead Body Collision.esp
48. DeadlyDragons.esp
49. DeadlyMonsters.esp
50. DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
51. DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
52. DragonShoutVoice.esp
53. Dual Sheath Redux.esp
54. Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
55. Elemental Staves.esp
56. ELFX - Exteriors.esp
57. ELFX - Moonpath.esp
58. ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
59. ELFXEnhancer.esp
60. EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
61. BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
62. BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
63. BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
64. BetterQuestObjectives.esp
65. Extended UI.esp
66. Extra Encounters - Dawnguard.esp
67. FCKagrenacsInstantFortress.esp
68. fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
69. faster vanilla horses.esp
70. Footprints - Ash.esp
71. Footprints.esp
72. Gildergreen Regrown.esp
73. Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
74. HearthfireChimneys.esp
75. IHSS.esp
76. Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
77. Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
78. iHUD.esp
79. randomthunder.esp
80. Immersive Weapons.esp
81. Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
82. BlockSparkles.esp
83. imp_helm.esp
84. imp_helm_dawn.esp
85. imp_helm_imp.esp
86. imp_help_dbrn.esp
87. Inconsequential NPCs.esp
88. 3DNPC.esp
89. LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
90. LeftHandRings.esp
91. mintylightningmod.esp
92. Locational Damage.esp
93. Lock Overhaul.esp
94. Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp
95. moonpath_questdata.esp
96. More Enemies 1.0.esp
97. More Enemies.esp
98. Moss Rocks.esp
99. Moss Rocks_DB.esp
100. No NPC Greetings.esp
101. PilgrimsDelight.esp
102. Headtracking.esp
103. Point The Way.esp
104. RaceMenu.esp
105. RaceMenuPlugin.esp
106. Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
107. Paralyze.esp
108. Rainbows.esp
109. ReProccer.esp
110. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
111. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp
112. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
113. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
114. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
115. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
116. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp
117. RLO - Adaptive Interiors Vanilla Weathers Patch.esp
118. dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
119. RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
120. RealisticWaterTwo.esp
121. Longbows.esp
122. LongbowsDB.esp
123. LongbowsDG.esp
124. LongbowsSkyRe.esp
125. LongbowsSkyReIWpatch.esp
126. RevampedExteriorFog.esp
127. Run For Your Lives.esp
128. SkyRe_Perk_Tomes.esp
129. SMDropLitTorch.esp
130. SabreFurBag.esp
131. ShootingStars.esp
132. SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
133. SkyRe_Combat.esp
134. SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
135. SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
136. SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
137. SkyRe_Main.esp
138. SkyRe_Races.esp
139. SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
140. SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
141. CCOR_aMidianBorn_Patch.esp
142. CCOR_IA7_Patch.esp
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144. CCOR_SkyRe_Patch.esp
145. DDB_NS_Skyre_Patch.esp
146. Post ReProccer Fixes CCOR IA7 IW UU aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.esp
147. Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 IW UU aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.esp
148. Post Reproccer_ICH.esp
149. Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 IW UU aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.esp
150. Pre Reproccer_ICH.esp
151. SkyRe_SiC_Patch.esp
152. Unique Unique's_Skyre Patch.esp
153. SkyTweak.esp
154. SkyUI.esp
155. Skyrim Barbers.esp
156. SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
157. SFO - Dragonborn.esp
158. Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
159. Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
160. Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
161. SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
162. ADS.esp
163. Soul Gems Differ.esp
164. SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
165. SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
166. SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
167. SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
168. SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
169. SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
170. TKDodge.esp
171. Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
172. TheChoiceIsYours.esp
173. TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
174. The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
175. SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
176. SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Light.esp
177. SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
178. SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
179. Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
180. TradeBarter.esp
181. torches for RL (happy medium).esp
182. SkyrimURWL.esp
183. Unique Uniques.esp
184. NoxUE2.00.esp
185. SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp
186. SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp
187. SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp
188. SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp
189. VioLens.esp
190. Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
191. Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
192. Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
193. WetandCold.esp
194. WetandCold - Ashes.esp
195. When Vampires Attack.esp
196. aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
197. AHZmoreHUD.esp

 

 

Edited November 9, 2016 by TehPenguin

[Nozzer66]

Just update SKSE first and see if that sorts it out. If not, the go through slowly, adding mods in blocks. Like all the UI ones, see if it runs, etc etc.

 

There's also things like save gave cleaners that might help, but use it as a last resort.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Nozzer66

[TehPenguin]

I can no longer edit my post so I'll add it here: I have tried the SKSE "Fix"

 

as in:

 

[General]

ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

 

[Memory]

DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768

ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

EDIT:

 

Figured out how to do these:

[spoiler=Papyrus Log][11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[...] CONTENT_TOO_LONG [...]
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] Function GetNthCount in the empty state on type LeveledItem does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] Function SetNthCount in the empty state on type LeveledItem does not exist. Function will not be flagged as callable from tasklets.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForActorAction in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForActorAction in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForCrosshairRef in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForCrosshairRef in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForCameraState in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForCameraState in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForAllControls in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForControl in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForControl in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function SendModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForAllModEvents in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForModEvent in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForAllMenus in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForMenu in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForMenu in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForAllKeys in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function UnregisterForKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function RegisterForKey in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function GetMagnitude in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function GetDuration in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:40PM] error: Native function GetTimeElapsed in empty state could find no matching function on linked type ActiveMagicEffect. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function IsTakeable in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Book. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function IsRead in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Book. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetSpell in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Book. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetSkill in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Book. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetHarvestSound in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Flora. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetIngredient in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Flora. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetGemSize in empty state could find no matching function on linked type SoulGem. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetSoulSize in empty state could find no matching function on linked type SoulGem. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetDescriptor in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Sound. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function SetEquipType in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetEquipType in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function SetNthEffectDuration in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function SetNthEffectArea in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function SetNthEffectMagnitude in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetCostliestEffectIndex in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetNthEffectMagicEffect in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetNthEffectDuration in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetNthEffectArea in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetNthEffectMagnitude in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetNumEffects in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.
[11/09/2016 - 11:32:41PM] error: Native function GetCastTime in empty state could find no matching function on linked type Scroll. Function will not be bound.

 

Edited November 9, 2016 by TehPenguin

[Nozzer66]

Few things I'd try:

 

1) Go to steam and try to validate the game cache. 

 

2) The SKSE fix isn't really needed any more with the Crash Fix mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/? Try downloading and installing that, following the directions on the page.

 

Does STEAM and all that seem to load up OK otherwise? There's also a possibility that if you still have old versions of mods, they may not run on the newest version of Skyrim either. You could try updating some mods and seeing how you go as well.

[TehPenguin]

Alright. The Crash Fixer told me, that the line in enblocal.ini:

ExpandSystemMemoryX64 has to be false

Fixed that and now it crashed w/o any error messages.

 

Verified the game Cache and it reacquired some 3 files but that didn't help either.

 

The vanilla game launches w/o problems and I can ride into Helgen.

 

Is there a way to rollback to an older version of skyrim?

Edited November 9, 2016 by TehPenguin

[Kelmych]

The last update to Skyrim was version 1.9.32.0.8 in March 2013. Was your game saved with a Skyrim version prior to this?

 

In the past (years ago) I was often able to use games saved with some previous versions of Skyrim. I did need to make sure I was using the current version for some of the mods I had. If you didn't update SKSE to the current version, for example, you need to update it as well as some of the mods that use SKSE (especially any mods that put dll files in the SKSE folder).

[TehPenguin]

The game was saved on the 8th of October 2014. So that is not an issue, as it seems.

I assumed the game got updated since steam patched it once or twice recently w/o me even launching it.

 

So if nothing got updated... what's the deal? Oh dear me.

 

I of course can go and update every mod and SKSE but before I do that: I just copy-pasted the Skyrim folder. It nags me that some mods just can't find the right path to things I don't even remember installing.

 

What'll do now is try to pin down the mod that causes the crash(if it's just one) since the game launches fine with SKSE with mods disabled.

[TehPenguin]

I have found some missing masters! In: ASIS, Batched Patch, Dual Sheath Redux Patch and ReProccer.

 

Figured out I need Java for ASIS, download in progress, and I also faintly remember there was a order in which you create those patches that if not done by that order it would screw the other ones. Should I just do it by the load order or something else?

 

I will update SKSE as soon as I deal with those. Don't want to change multiple things at once.

[Nozzer66]

I tend to do those in the order of Bashed Patch, other Skyproc stuff, ASIS, DSR.

 

The other thing I just noticed: is that actually the order your mods appear in, ie your Load Order, or just your Mod List, which often gets presented in alphabetical order like that?

 

Cause if that's your actual load order you probably should be sorting it with LOOT too.

[TehPenguin]

Oh my, I just noticed that it's alphabetical. That certainly isn't the way it was. Here comes LOOT! Thanks.

 

Now back to creating those patches.

[TehPenguin]

Alright, fixed the loadorder and the patches. Turned out I was using patch files from other profiles(wrong tick box in MO).

Now the game loads no problem but crashes after a save has loaded for a couple of seconds.

 

I remember the game used to crash like when the INI settings didn't match the last save(like uGridsToLoad) but I don't remember if I can check what INI settings I had been using in the last save.

[Nozzer66]

You could always try the BethINI tool and/or a save game cleaner. 

 

BethINI: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/69787/? this will do all the suggested STEP/SRLE changes and has the added advantage of cleaning up the ini files and putting them in a more logical order.

 

There's several save game cleaners. You'd likely be best searching Nexus for those. I've not used any of them to suggest one.

[TehPenguin]

OK, I've done what you told me to do long time ago. I updated SKSE and now everything loads. Played for 10mins and it seems fine. Let's hope this is it.

 

Thank you very much for now! Hopefully I won't need your help in near future!

[Nozzer66]

Touch Wood *Taps Head*

 

Good luck and enjoy.

[TehPenguin]

The game runs smoothly and now that I have rediscovered the backup and restore buttons I have the correct loadorder and what mods replace which files. Fixed many skeleton issues.

 

One thing persists though: some textures do not load/load with a very bright purple "paint" on them.

 

Google told me that it's either a VRAM limit(Skyrim uses 3 out of 6GB, so it shouldn't be a problem)or an nVidia issue but I haven't found any further info/fixes for the latter. This being an nVidia problem seems plausible as my previous PC had an AMD card and it didn't have this issue.

 

Have you heard of that?

[Greg]

Purple images indicate you may be missing a texture for that object. Here's a random screenshot I picked up to demonstrate the effect. I think the first thing to do if you are using Mod Organizer is to ensure all of the BSAs are checked in the right pane (in the Archives tab) and you have the "Have MO manage archives" checkbox checked. It's at the top of the Archives tab just above the list of BSAs.