CTD with no apparent reason

[elonin]

I have had ctd's in 1 in whiterun, 1 at river near riverwood and 2 at the same place on exiting bleak falls barrow.  None of these involved a great number of actors (that i'm aware of) and none involved combat.  My first thought is this may have something to do with a mod in my load order as my patches are up to date with this order.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

moonpath.esm

daymoyl.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

SkyUI.esp

SkyTweak.esp

PNENB.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp

3DNPC.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

KTABladeOfWoe.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

Rebirth Monster.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp

Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Undeath.esp

SkyrimSewers.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

townsandcitiesenhanced.esp

Cloaks.esp

CCO_SIC_Patch.esp

quest_thebiggertheyare.esp

BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp

QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp

throneroom.esp

Better Vampires.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

Extended UI.esp

VL No AoE Drain.esp

VLCollisionFix.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp

iHUD.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

XPMSE.esp

HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp

No Annoying Skeleton Sound.esp

NoMoreGlowArmor.esp

NoStartingSpells.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

Realistic crime report radius.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

SabreFurBag.esp

SameWalkRunSpeeds.esp

TradeBarter.esp

CopyArmor.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

FISS.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

ThalmorSolitudeheadQuartersRedone.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

HarvestOverhaul.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp

FNIS.esp

FNISspells.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

aedric ritual remake.esp

quest_seaofghosts.esp

tos_laintardale_hf.esp

tos_oakwood_hf.esp

xamnant.esp

tos_amber_guard.esp

Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp

tos_granitehall.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

quest_sorcery.esp

quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp

Vampirelordroyal.esp

Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp

BlackSacramentArmor.esp

Imaginator BETA.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp

Pre PaMa CCF Wintermyst Patch.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

BVandRB_Formlist.esp

hfhometeleports.esp

Spectraverse - Only After Dragon Rising.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp

Post PatchusMaximus Perma Mods and Tweaks.esp

DeadlyCombat.esp

JaxonzUtilities.esp

Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp

PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp

PerMa_USKP master patch.esp

Wyrmstooth - PerMa Patch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Pre PaMa CCOR Patch.esp

Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp

DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

2xskillgain.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[elonin]

I've heard that sorting with mod organizer's sort button is using an older version of loot which defeats the purpose of sorting with the newest loot possible.  There is note on the wiki about replacing the loot32.dll in with the one from the newer version of loot to update the sort.  Can i i safely ignore MO's warning about mod order if i just ran loot as an executible within MO.  Do i need to do anything after hitting apply to have the changes take effect?

[Nebulous112]

Nope, if you ran LOOT from within MO, all you need to do is click "Sort Plugins" which is one of the buttons in the top right. Then Apply, and close.

 

The PMOP (Potential Mod Order Problem) in MO is specific in what it does. It can safely be ignored, or you can turn it off altogether by doing the below:

• Go to the Plugins tab and click Basic diagnosis plugin on the left and double-click true next to check_modorder and change it to false.

[GrantSP]

I've heard that sorting with mod organizer's sort button is using an older version of loot which defeats the purpose of sorting with the newest loot possible.  There is note on the wiki about replacing the loot32.dll in with the one from the newer version of loot to update the sort.  Can i i safely ignore MO's warning about mod order if i just ran loot as an executible within MO.  Do i need to do anything after hitting apply to have the changes take effect?

That notice in the MO guide is incorrect and has been edited. There is no proper way to install the "full" LOOT by simply adding a single file to MO's LOOT folder.

The 'Sort' function uses exactly the same code as LOOT does, at the time of release for MO, and it only lacks some features such as the 'report window' and the ability to edit metadata. The actual sorting function is identical.

STEP recommends installing the full LOOT package to be used via MO because those features are vital to setting up correct load orders with the extensive list of mods used in our guides.

[elonin]

Thank you for the clarification.  I do have the fulll version of loot installed.

[elonin]

I'm not able to do the benchmarking as instructed with my copy of office being too old (2003) with the instructions working for later versions.  Is there a work around?  

[Nebulous112]

The STEP benchmarking isn't required if you don't wish to or don't have the means to. To be honest, I have never done it

[elonin]

Is there a separate page for the extended mods?  Both of the links posted earlier for the step guide seemed to point to the same mods, though installed in a different manner.  

[Nebulous112]

The STEP Guide is here: https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.9.2

 

Extended means install all the mods except the couple it tells you not to install for extended.

 

Core means install just the mods with the green vertical bar beside them.