MO2

[loneyukon]

MO2 came out as FO4 was released...been running around in the post-apocalypse for the last year, now I am re-doing my Skyrim...was just wondering if there is an updated 'instruction manual' for MO2 users;

 

...more specifically, I was having issues near the beginning where we were instructed to make an actual 'Skyrim Script Extender' mod...I did as instructed, however, if I have that enabled I get an immediate CTD. I was wondering if this has something to do with MO having SKSE pre-installed?

 

Edit: Instructions referred to above found here > https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition

Edited July 7, 2016 by loneyukon

[Nebulous112]

It is suggested to use the original MO for Skyrim. MO2 is still in Beta, and you may run into some issues with the STEP install if you use MO2.

[TheChemist]

MO2 has no BSA Extractor at the moment (don't know if it ever will). In Neovalens guide every BSA will be extracted, so you can't follow the guide properly with MO2.

[GSDFan]

The BSA extractor is gone from MO2 in its current form. Take a look at post 26 in the Mod Organizer 2 Discussion and Feedback section. Hopefully it will be back at some point.

[loneyukon]

yeah...Intalled MO1 and started over...I get it.

[fbrafa]

plus the profiles specific INIs dont work yet AFAIK and windows 8/10 is retarded and causes permission problems with the new vfs MO2 uses

[Razorsedge877]

I'm sure I am missing something. I installed the new MO2. wanted to put it on my F drive but it made a path to C:/Users/Razor/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4. Why does it have to do this. I have a folder in my F drive that is just for Fallout 4. I much prefer the way MO1 was set up. Why change something that didn't seem broke. I want to copy my downlads from my older v of MO2 to this newer version I just installed and am to dumb to understand this new file path. Did I say I want a separate instance of MO2 for each game,instead of all games pointing to one instance

Edited July 13, 2016 by Razorsedge877

[GrantSP]

I'm sure I am missing something. I installed the new MO2. wanted to put it on my F drive but it made a path to C:/Users/Razor/AppData/Local/ModOrganizer/Fallout 4. Why does it have to do this. I have a folder in my F drive that is just for Fallout 4. I much prefer the way MO1 was set up. Why change something that didn't seem broke. I want to copy my downlads from my older v of MO2 to this newer version I just installed and am to dumb to understand this new file path. Did I say I want a separate instance of MO2 for each game,instead of all games pointing to one instance

That directory structure is to store all of the user defined files and post-installation generated stuff, ie. profiles, INIs, logs, 'Overwrite', etc. The actual executable is installed where you want it to go.

The whole reason for the change is to facilitate the single installation/multiple-game functionality. Using 'AppData' is an elegant and oft-used method employed by many programmes to maintain an easy database of the required files for different users. Most browsers store information there as do editors like Notepad++. LOOT likewise uses this storage method as does the Nexus mod manager.

[Razorsedge877]

That directory structure is to store all of the user defined files and post-installation generated stuff, ie. profiles, INIs, logs, 'Overwrite', etc. The actual executable is installed where you want it to go.

The whole reason for the change is to facilitate the single installation/multiple-game functionality. Using 'AppData' is an elegant and oft-used method employed by many programmes to maintain an easy database of the required files for different users. Most browsers store information there as do editors like Notepad++. LOOT likewise uses this storage method as does the Nexus mod manager.

I can't locate appdata. I tried following the file structure and its not there. I also have my userprofile of F so if I reinstall my operating system I can disconnect my f drive and not worry about loosing all of my save games pictures ect ect. Not that I know what I'm doing because I learn as I go.

[GrantSP]

I can't locate appdata. I tried following the file structure and its not there. I also have my userprofile of F so if I reinstall my operating system I can disconnect my f drive and not worry about loosing all of my save games pictures ect ect. Not that I know what I'm doing because I learn as I go.

You will need to enable 'Hidden/System Items' in your windows settings as that folder is a hidden system folder created by Windows. Depending on which version you are using the steps are different.

[paul666root]

Windows 7

1. Select the Start button, then select Control Panel > Appearance and Personalization.
2. Select Folder Options, then select the View tab.
3. Under Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives, and then select OK.

Windows 8 and 8.1:

 

     1 – Press the Windows+S key combination to open the “Search†box.

     2 – Type folder into the Search box, then select Folder Options from the list of search results. The “Folder Options†window should open.

     3 – Select the View tab.

     4 – Under “Advanced Settingsâ€, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives.

     5 – Click Apply, then click Ok.

 

Windows 10:

1. Select the “Start†button, then choose “File Explorer“.
2. Click on File > Change folder and search options
3. Select the “View†tab.
4. Under Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives, and then select OK.

Edited July 13, 2016 by paul666root

[Razorsedge877]

   Paul and GrantSP. When it comes to MO2, do you think I should do an install for each game even though I only want to set up Fallout 4 for now, or should I do the install where all games go into one directory. I am used the way MO 1 is  set up so that is what I know. My setup is I have a SSD drive called C for my operating system, SSD called E for gaming - I only have the actual mods installed to save space, and a regular Hard drive called F - that I keep my backup MO on in case something happens to my E drive.

   The nice thing about MO 1 is I know how to copy my MO downloads folder from drive F  to drive E if needed for any reason. I hope my question is clear and I trust both of your judgements on what I should do. I want to be able to set up an instance of MO 2 on each drive and really don't want anything to do with MO on my C drive. And I run windows 10 and like I said I went into  settings on wndows and set it up so my user profile saves all of my pictures, downloads, music, ect on F even though  there is also a folder on my C drive that is kind of the same. Lol I wish there was a PC gamer in Pittsburgh that I could trust enough to teach me what I don't understand about gaming and modding.

[GrantSP]

You can change ALL the path settings in MO2 by using the 'Settings' -- 'Path' tab.

Change the base directory in the first field entry at the top and then all the subsequent entries below will be relative to that. Or just change those by editing the specific field.

ie. Change "Downloads" == %BASE_DIR%/downloads to point to the location on your system that you want.

[Razorsedge877]

I figured that might work. Do you agree with me having a seperate MO for each game?

[GrantSP]

I figured that might work. Do you agree with me having a seperate MO for each game?

Hmm... I'm conflicted at the moment. As I have no games that need MO2 installed, I only have an installation just to provide support background, so can't really say whether the multi-game system is a winner.

This also means I am very happy with my multiple installs of MO and find no problem with that.

 

Either/or. Your call.

[Razorsedge877]

Thanks for the advice Grant. I am going to stick with individual installs Even though the only game its for is Fallout. With constantly updating Skyrim its time to actually play a game.