Druid's Den - Map Marker - Enable Parent links

[Nebulous112]

Hey guys,

 

I'm wondering if anyone would care to help me with a slight issue I have. Not STEP related in the slightest, but you folks are some of the brightest people I know, so I am hoping someone may be able and willing to help.

 

I am using Druid's Den - Collector's Edition. Great house mod. However, there are still a couple minor bugs, one being that the map marker doesn't enable. The mod author that is currently active, Icecreamassassin, has mentioned that the map marker was not set up properly. However, he has stated that it can be fixed in the meantime if we are savvy enough with xEdit. Just "set it to enabled from the start and remove any enable parent links." I asked for further info on the mod page, but ICA is busy with Legacy of the Dragonborn, and Saerileth has stepped back from the mod, so understandably I didn't receive a response.

 

 

I found the map marker and have removed the "initially disabled" flag. However, I am unsure what the "enable parent" links mean...can you tell I am not a coder? ;-) I am not sure if it is safe to leave these enable parent links active, so I am hoping someone can elaborate on what these might be so that I can disable them.

 

Just from the language, I assume "enable parent" means that this map marker is a child of some other record. I assume when the map marker is enabled, it will enable some other property in the mod via this link. However, looking at the xEdit records (and having utterly no idea what most of this truly means), I am not sure with enough certainty what I should disable without breaking things. I can forward records, and make basic patches in xEdit...but this seems to require a little bit of actual, real modding knowledge, and that is where I hit a wall. ;-)

 

 

Anyway, the map marker is referenced by four other records. Two of them relate to the house itself - one the interior, one the exterior. The other two are the quest where the map marker is supposed to be enabled, and the specific dialogue within that quest.

 

I have made an Imgur album with screenshots from xEdit and basic descriptions of the screenshots. If anyone has any idea what these enable parent links might be, I would really appreciate any help!

 

Thanks,

 

Nebulous

 

Edit: "Reference" --> "Referenced by"

[Astakos]

Hi Nebulous,

 

Downloaded Druid's Den and had a very quick look at all of the above mentioned records.

It appears that in order for the map marker to enable itself in world map you must:

 

1. FormID -> xx026832 <denmapmark> Remove the "Initially Disabled" flag

2. FormID -> xx026833 Remove the entire entry of XESP-Enable Parent (DenStuff)

 

As you can see in the pics below the map marker is visible and you can fast travel to it.

 

 

 

In my game Druid's Den was not visible when I fast traveled to it but I guess this is because I do not have high levels of magic skills nor have I done any quest.

I do not know how this map marker was supposed to be, but it is visible from the beginning.

 

Hope that this helps! 

[GrantSP]

Hmm... I have a sneaking suspicion that you may need to use the CK to edit the map marker.

[zilav]

Enable Parent means that it's enabled status is controlled by an object it is linked too. Settings initially disabled on a reference together with parent linking is used when a mod author wants something to appear later in game after something has occured, it will enable the common parent object from a script and all refs that are linked to it will change their enabled state too. Looks like this map marker should appear only after you've done something in the mod but author hasn't finished implementing it (maybe some quest?). Just remove initially disabled flag and remove Enable Parent entry.

Edited May 30, 2016 by zilav

[Astakos]

Hi Nebulous12,

 

Zilav pretty much well-covered whatever I wanted to say; one remark though...

 

In your first 2 images you are showing the MapMarker record...this is not the record that you want to edit/change.

 

I believe that the record that should have the "Initially Disabled" flag and the "Enable Parent:" reference is the one below it called XMarkerHeading with FormID 05026833 (not shown in your pics though).

Do what zilav says in this marker...not the MapMarker. The XMarkerHeading record is responsible for enabling the MapMarker (you can see in the MapMarker record that there is a linked reference to the record I am talking about).

 

Hope this helps. 

[GrantSP]

Well I have learnt something new, thanks guys.

[Nebulous112]

Hey guys,

 

Thank you very much for all the help! :-)

 

 

So I looked at the XMarkerHeading that you mentioned, Astakos. It seems  to be already persistent (there is no "initially disabled" flag), and the enable parent link references something else called "Den Stuff". This "Den Stuff" seems to be a catch-all to enable everything in the Druid's Den once a person has possession of the house.

 

I have added the images of the XMarkerHeading to the end of the Imgur Album.

 

 

Because this XMarkerHeading record is already persistent, with no initially disabled flag... what do you think?

 

 

Thanks again! :-)

[Astakos]

Well...ehm...what is in Den Stuff? A screenshot maybe...

 

TBH, I will try to download the mod and have a look in both CK and TES5Edit as there are various references involved and by just following screenshots I can only guess and not be certain.

 

Moreover, IA's response is not the most informative; so I guess a closer look is necessary.

From the looks of it I would try removing the "Enable Parent" of XMarkerHeading and see how it goes. You can back up the esp in TES5Edit so you can quickly revert to its unedited format if something is not right. But as I said...this is only a guess!

 

Will try to do it tonight if my son lets me! 

Edited May 31, 2016 by Astakos

[Nebulous112]

You are truly a gentleman and a scholar, Astakos. :-)

[Nebulous112]

It does, thank you very much, sir! :-)