What mods to clear with TES5Edit?

[DMCbr]

I have now 230 plugins, the game is not stable anymore, i got a save corruption other day and there some huge fps drops when entering zones with 3 followers...
So, I think it is time to re-install everything, using less heavy mods and less scripts. My goal is to have <200 plugins this time and no heavy (>50MB) followers.
But there is some things i didn't found its clear yet:
1- The only mod needed to be clear by T5E is Update.esm? Or i must clear everything except Convenient Horses, one-by-one?
2- A few detailed instructions ask to go to Mod Organizer in Data tab and disable some texture files. But since is extremely boring to navigate there, i almost never did this. Is that a problem or i can ignore this and the game will run fine?
3- Still on data tab, there are some red names (conflicts), from BashedPatch and other huge mods. Am I supposed to delete those? (I always left those red named files untouched)

 

Sorry for the bad English.

[Greg]

You'll need to clean Update.esm, the three DLCs (Dawnguard.esm, Hearthfire.esm, and Dragonborn.esm), and any other mods LOOT indicates needs cleaning.

 

You don't need to do anything with the conflicting (red) files. Mod Organizer automatically uses the last winning conflict from the mod with the highest priority in the left pane. The only time you might want to hide a conflict is when you want to use a texture from another mod that isn't winning the conflict.

 

Let's say you install Mod A and Mod B. Both of these mods include a particular rock texture and the game is currently using the rock texture from Mod B, but you think the rock texture from Mod A is better. In this case you go into the file tree for Mod B and hide this rock texture so the game uses the rock texture from Mod A instead.

[DMCbr]

Tkx, nice explanation. So i will leave the duplicated textures out there... maybe the game loads same things twice, but is so hard to clean this duplications since MO reset the entire file tree every time i hide something, making this taks impossible.

[GrantSP]

Tkx, nice explanation. So i will leave the duplicated textures out there... maybe the game loads same things twice, but is so hard to clean this duplications since MO reset the entire file tree every time i hide something, making this taks impossible.

Only the 'winning' game assets (textures, sounds, scripts, etc.) are loaded into the game. There will never be any duplication of anything if two or more mods provide the same file.

If you want to use an asset from Mod A, instead of hiding it via the 'Data' tab, open the mod in the left-hand pane and hide the files there. repeat this for all mods that have files you want to hide.

However, there is no need to hide anything if the correct order in the left-hand pane is provided. The mod with the higher priority number provides the assets to the game.

[DMCbr]

Ok, I finished to install everything again, well not everything but my custom setup (95% core, 30% extended and a few other mods for future compatibility):
 

Unmanaged: Bashed Patch, 0
Unmanaged: Dawnguard
Unmanaged: Dragonborn
Unmanaged: HearthFires
Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
PapyrusUtil - 58705 (3.2)
skse_1_07_03
Appropriately Attired Jarls - 23793 (1.1.1)
Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition - 24020 (1.0)
CCO - WAF True Weapons Patch - 49791 (1.6)
Clothing and Clutter Fixes - 43053 (1.6)
Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade - 49791 (1.7)
Consistent Older People All NPCs - 19730 (3.0a)
Cutting Room Floor - Legendary Edition - 47327 (2.0.1)
Dead Body Collision - 30947 (1.0)
ELE_Lite_v0_95c_Only IL - 59733 (0.9.5c)
Enchantment Reload Fix - 52717 (1.2)
Fast Respawns And Rich Merchants - 15574 (1.1)
Fuz Ro Doh - 14884 (6.0)
Guard Dialogue Overhaul - 23390 (1.4)
Improved Closefaced Helmets Legendary Edition - 15927 (1.57)
Invisibility Eyes Fix - 23916 (2.0)
NARC - Dawnguard and Dragonborn - 68125 (1.11)
Paralyze - 34108 (1)
Realistic Force - 601 (1.9)
Relighting Skyrim - No JIT - 17609 (4.0.1)
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version - 32505 (1.6)
Smart Souls - 14559 (9)
STEP Optimized Vanilla Textures - 11 (1.2)
Unofficial High Resolution Patch - 31255 (1.2.0)
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch - 71214 (3.0.2b)
Update - Male corundrum Dragon Priest mask texture fix - 15927 (1.57a)
Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - 68000 (3.84)
Disease Descriptions for the Immersive Adventurer - 31202 (1.3)
HQ3DMap - Meshes Hi-Res - 4817 (2.0)
HQ3DMap - Normals Original - 4817 (2.0)
Lore-Based Loading Screens - 21265 (1.1)
Main Font Replacement - Tara Type - 95 (2)
Race Menu - 29624 (3.4.5)
SSIRT - 62238 (2.0)
Viewable Faction Ranks Dawnguard and Dragonborn - 58057 (1.1.7)
HQ FOOD INGREDIENTS Performance Repack - 1192 (1.6)
SkyFalls and SkyMills FOMOD-BAIN Installer-40564-3-3-1
Skyrim HD COMPLETE LITE - 607 (1.7)
Static Mesh Improvement Mod
Tobes Highres Textures 1_2 1024-1123-1-2
Tobes Highres Textures 1_2b SMIM Patch-1123-1-2
Ultimate HD Candle Flames Add-on - 28642 (1.9)
Ultimate HD Fire Effects Medium Resolution - 28642 (1.9)
aMidianBorn Caves and Mines 1k - 39190 (3)
aMidianBorn Farmhouse 1k - 49040 (1)
aMidianBorn Solstheim Land 1K - 50013 (1)
Dragonborn addon - 141 (0.2)
Embers HD - 62425 (1.32)
Enhanced Night Skyrim Low Stars - 85 (0.4)
Farmhouse Chimneys - 51330 (2.6)
HD Dark Brotherhood Door - No glowing eyes version - 53059 (1)
Hd Enhanced Terrain and Map snow 1024 - 29782 (8)
HQ Snow Texture 1024 - 743 (2.7.1)
HQLODs - Meshes Med-Res - 4834 (2.1)
Hybrids Hires Plant and Herb Retexture - 1546 (4)
Improved Vanilla Mountains HD - 40922 (1.0)
Point The Way - 33393 (1.0.8)
Re-Defined Dungeons 1024 - 3147 (1.0)
Real Wood Textures - Farmhouses No Green Moss (S.T.E.P.) - 50595 (1)
Realistic Water Two - 41076 (1.11)
Skyrim Flora Overhaul Basic Edition - 141 (1.87a)
Skyrim Improved Puddles BAIN NMM FOMOD - 33335 (1.1b)
The Ruffled Feather - 13268 (4.2.2)
The Ruffled Feather - Enhanced Distant Terrain -13268 (1.1)
Trees HD Skyrim variation HIGH NEW - 3812 (1.6)
Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised yellow 1024 - 43221 (1.4)
Whitrun Trellis Texture 1024 - 1647 (1.1)
83Willows 101BUGs LQ - 4955 (4.1)
Better Beast Races Lite - 944 (2.0L)
Better Freckles - 4502 (1.0.1)
Birds - Hearthfire Edition Cleaned - 11555
Breads Normal Res - 28363 (2.0)
Brows Standard Resolution - 30411 (3.1)
cover khajiits 1024 - 5941 (1.0)
Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak - 24019 (1.1.1)
Female Vampires Have Fangs - 22522 (0.1)
Giant 2k - 66428 (1.0)
Hagraven 2k - 67075 (1.0)
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul - 65013 (0.2.5.1)
Male Faces - GeonoxFaces - 2488 (1.2)
Male Underwear - Slip - 2488 (2.3.2)
More Realistic Hair - 3397 (1.0)
New children dirt skin - 6172 (2)
PondFish and Salmon Replacer - 38440 (1.2)
SLF Hair - Rough Hair - Lite 1K - 36510 (2.0)
Troll 2k - 68131 (1.0)
Wispmother 2x1k - 67525 (1.0)
WM Critter Fixes - 54485 (1.06)
XCE - 2356 (1.13)
XCED - 21839 (1.0)
aMidianBorn - Content Addon - 24909 (1.9)
aMidianBorn Blade of Woe - 51130 (1.1)
aMidianBorn book of silence ARMORS - 24909 (1.9)
aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
aMidianBorn book of silence DRAGONBORN DLC - 24909 (1.9)
aMidianBorn book of silence UNIQUE ITEMS - 24909 (1.9)
aMidianBorn book of silence WEAPONS - 24909 (1.9)
aMidianBorn Imperial Light 2k - 50887 (1.1)
aMidianBorn Stormcloak officer - 45692 (1)
Elemental Staffs 1K Main Cleaned - 15152 (1.16)
Gemling Queen Jewelry - All In One Installer - 52266 (4.1c)
Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux - 27178 (2.7.4b)
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul - MOTO - SoM - USLEEP and CCF Compatible - 69289
New Thinner Torche and Ultimate HD Torch Compatible - 6950 (1.0)
Nightingale Prime HD - Leather Version - 28899 (Final)
Not Really HD Mask -Wrecked Version - 3375 (0.9a)
Skyrim Weapon DeLARPification Project Dawnguard - 16072
Skyrim Weapon DeLARPification Project Dragonborn - 16072 (1.0.2)
Skyrim Weapon DeLARPification Project - 16072 (1.0.5)
Staff of Magnus Hotfix - 24909 (1.9)
TND Vampire Armor Retexture - 55640 (1.0)
Ultimate HD Torch -less glowing cloth- MedRes 1024 - 28060
Ultimate HD Torch MedRes - 1024 - 28060 (1.3)
animated clutter - 48287 (1.9)
Better Turn Animation Only One Pose - 8080 (1.1)
Breathing - Female without BBB and Male Breathing Idles - 7093 (0.1)
D13 Faster Get up Stand up animation - 17491 (2.0)
Dawnguard Rune Weapons FXS Replacer - 29735 (1.0)
Deadly Spells Impact Low Res - 2947 (1.6.1)
DROPS x512 - 63991 (3.0)
Enhanced Blood Textures - 60 (3.6c)
Fix Crossed Swords and Turn with Leg move - 8080 (1.1)
Improved Weapon Impact - 10445 (1.1)
Barenziahs Glory - 63902 (2.1)
Detailing the Eldrich - Higher-Res Riekling Architecture - 46741
Dragon Claws SOLID with REFRACTIONS - 51769 (3.0)
Enchanting Candles Improved - 53638 (1.1)
HD Keys With Normal Maps - 2875 (1)
HD Linens - 2979 (1.0)
HD Ore And Ingots with manager - 9912 (1)
Horncandles 2k-1k - 66185 (1.1)
HQ Paper - 5988 (2.3)
N-R HD Display Case Smudged Glass Version - 3693 (0.9a)
Pilgrims Delight - Legacy - 10940 (1.1)
Realistic HD Baskets xPERFORMANCE - 66008 (1.1)
Rens HD Shrines - Ultimate - 50327 (2.0)
RUSTIC DRAGON CORPSE 2K - 65663 (1.0)
RUSTIC POTIONS and POISONS 1K - 62701 (1.0)
Skeleton.and.Human.Bones.2k - 67871 (1.1)
Skyrim Redesigned - 8954
SLOD Wine Cellar Full Pack - 4260
Soul Gems Differ - All-In-One - 6335 (1.5.6)
Super Realistic Ore Textures - 3794 (1)
Sweet Mother HD - 4947 (2.0)
Tenets Restored - Standard Edition - 31087 (1.3)
White Phial Replacer - All In One Installer - 54078 (1.2)
AOS - Audio Overhaul for Skyrim - 43773 (2.5.1)
Better Weapon Swing Sounds - 17903 (1.1)
Dragons Shout with Voice - LOOSE - 35286 (1.1)
Dragons Shout with Voice from location - 35286 (1.0)
Improved Combat Sounds - 5289 (2.2)
Improved Horse step Sounds - 31039 (2.1)
Lower Volume Thieves Door - 1826 (1)
Smooth draw and Sheathe sfx - Full options - 1117 (2.3)
Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot sound - 27208 (1)
Auto Unequip Ammo - 10753 (5.0)
Better Stealth AI for Followers - 16531 (3.4)
Clams Drop Pearls - 9037 (1.0)
Convenient Horses - 14950 (5)
Drop Lit Torches - 10394 (3.0)
Even Better Quest Objectives - 32695 (1.5.6)
Follower Trap Safety - 11609 (1.3)
Gildergreen Regrown - 12254 (1.2.6)
Hearthfire Extended - All DLCs (Legendary Edition) - 66783 (1.0.3)
Oblivion Gates Skyrim and Dawnguard - 22369 (3.2)
Skyrim Community Uncapper - 1175 (1.15.2.0)
The Paarthurnax Dilemma - 18465 (1.2.9)
Thieves Guild Requirements - 14157 (2.1)
Traps Make Noise - Follower Safety Patch - 31799 (2.1)
Traps Make Noise and are Dangerous - 31799 (2.1)
Wiseman303's Trap Fixes - 55100 (2.0b)
TERA Weapons - 27463 (1.1)
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul - 14037 (1.2i)
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Dawnguard Add-on - 14037 (1.0b)
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Dragonborn Add-on - 14037 (1.1)
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul Heartfire Add-on - 14037 (1.0a)
Wyrmstooth Isle - 25704 (1.16)
SkyUI
Dual Sheath Output
FNIS Output
Wrye Bash Output
A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads
Alternate Start - Live Another Life - 9557 (3.1.2)
Falskaar Isle - 37994 (1.2.1 final)
Better-Shaped Weapons - 39870 (2.0.05)
Dual Sheath Redux - 34155 (1.7.3)
FNIS Behavior - 11811 (6.2)
FNIS Sexy Move - 54521 (6.1)
FNIS Spells Add-on for the spells -11811 (5.0.1)
STEP Compilation Installer - Normal Res - 11 (2.2.9.2i)
DynDOLOD - 59721 (1.49)
DynDOLOD Gen textures
DynDOLOD World textures

* The correct mod order MO fails to export, so i sorted a bit.
 
And here are my FRAPS Benchmarks from "Bethesda software presents..." until the 1st auto save at Helgen, 225 seconds long tests:

 
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.
6245    224203    22    41    27854        2D
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
6144    224000    22    41    27429        2E
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5696    224000    7    38    25429        2F
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5583    224000    4    36    24924        2G
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5566    224000    18    36    24848        2H
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5589    224000    4    37    24951        2I
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5591    225000    19    37    24849        2J
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5558    225000    3    36    24702        2K
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5534    225000    4    36    24596        2L
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5541    225000    4    36    24627        2M
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5570    225000    4    36    24756        2N without DynDOLOD
                        
Frames    Time     Min    Max    Avg            S.T.E.P.        
5441    225000    6    36    24182        2N with DynDOLOD

From "STEP 2.F" and above, i got a 0.5~1 second freeze when the carriage is turning the last corner (maybe the soldiers were loading), before it stops. Thats why i got a minimum fps that low, but the average fps is basically the same all the time after 2.F was installed.
I don't think DynDOLOD is a useful or necessary mod, but since it doesn't slow down my game, ill leave it there (maybe).
Now i just need to tweak my ini files to increase the fps a bit and install my other 135 mods (9GB) to complete my mod collection.
I'll post more tests after that...

Edited April 14, 2016 by Greg
Added spoiler tags

[DMCbr]

Final results after 322 mods on left pane of MO, 224 mods on LOOT:

 

2x AA + FXAA:

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg

6246    231532     0    40   26977

> half second freeze here and there but playable FPS

 

no AA + no FXAA:

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg

7442    240188     0    48   30984

> half second freeze here and there but playable FPS

 

no AA + no FXAA + Shadow Fix (mod 74888):

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg

5446    222234     19  37   24506

> no freezes and playable FPS

 

Thats all for tests for now.

Edited April 15, 2016 by DMCbr