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Help troubleshooting exterior cell CTDs


Fenric

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Hello,

 

I am occasionally getting a CTD mostly in exterior cells when fighting NPCs / near NPCs in combat.  If I reload and go back to the same spot, the crash doesn't happen again most of the time.  This makes me suspect it has something to do with ASIS because ASIS will redo it's increased spawn when you reload, and where there were 4 enemies there might only be 1 or 2 after.  I wonder if it could be caused by ASIS automatic perks or spell distribution for NPCs.  It could also be a problem with an enchantment on an item the NPC is wearing from Worlds Dawn, then when I reload the NPC doesn't spawn again.

 

I don't suppose anyone has experienced issues with ASIS, OBIS, and Worlds Dawn?  It could be something completely different as well, I'm just guessing really.

 

modlist.txt:

 

 

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I would appreciate any help / troubleshooting tips.  I've made it to level 40 so far so it definitely doesn't happen that often, but I never know if I'll get stuck in a CTD loop on my latest save.

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Have you used Memory Blocks Log to verify it's not a memory allocation issue?

Yeah, using the recommended 768/256 and it doesn't get close to that.  At one point I had a save that repeatedly crashed just after loading in to the game.  I was going up a switchback trail near Ivarstead I think and had heard spells above me, lighting type I think.  I saved and would take 2 or 3 more steps and crash.  I tested the memory blocks then.  I used tfc 1 and flew up there and there were 2 dead npcs and 2 bandits I believe running further up the path.  I tried to look at their active effects/spells but didn't know what to look for.

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