Civil War Overhaul - Whiterun guards bug

[VirtuousParagon]

Hello Everyone,

 

I apologize if this is in the wrong thread. I thought about posting in the Mods section but reading through there it was more of a STEP suggestion area rather than a support area.

 

I have an issue where starting a brand new game, all of the male whiterun guards are wearing their default yellow armor, but all of the female guards are wearing stormcloak blue armor. I know it's not a texture replacer issue because I've tested it with multiple replacers and the stormcloak blues are still showing they're just HD now.

 

I believe this to be a scripting bug either due to Civil War Overhaul or Diverse Guards Skyrim.

I think it's more probable that it's CWO because I don't think Diverse Guards touches factions as much as it deals with the size of the guard NPC pool. But Diverse Guards does add many more female guards so that might explain why only the female guards are affected.

 

I'm going to be doing some more testing when I get home from work; probably will drop both mods from MO and start another new game to see if the bug persists. I just wanted to see if anyone else has encountered something similar.

 

Thank you all.

[Greg]

I've never used either of these mods, but I'm curious if you looked at the guards with Mfg Console? This will at least give you the FormIDs of the guards and the name of the mod the guards come from and the name of the last mod that modifies the guards. Perhaps that might give you a starting point for the investigation.

[Teabag86]

With CWO only installed all the Whiterun guards began with the yellow default armor. After Battle for Whiterun the guard armor changed accordingly.

[VirtuousParagon]

I'm sorry I'm not familiar with Mfg console. I was wondering if there was any way in TES5Edit that I could see if any of my mods are affecting guard factions which might alter what outfits they are wearing. It's a really weird bug because I've dropped both CWO and Diverse Guards, started a new game, ran to whiterun and any female guards are wearing stormcloak instead of whiterun yellow. I don't think I have any other mods that would affect factions but here is my load order: [spoiler=Load Order] 0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
8 8 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
9 9 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
10 a WM Flora Fixes.esp
11 b WinterholdDestruction.esm
12 c Campfire.esm
13 d Inn Girls Resources.esm
14 e GeneralStores.esm
15 f ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
16 10 Cutting Room Floor.esp
tobuscusweapons.esp
17 11 Enhanced Lights and FX - Merged.esp
18 12 RaceMenu.esp
19 13 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
20 14 SkyUI.esp
STEP DLC Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
STEP Vanilla Optimized Textures - Standard.esp
21 15 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp
22 16 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
23 17 Unique Region Names - Merged.esp
24 18 WetandCold.esp
25 19 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
26 1a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
27 1b Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
28 1c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
29 1d ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
30 1e SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
31 1f SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
32 20 Footprints.esp
33 21 Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
34 22 Beards.esp
35 23 Brows.esp
36 24 AOS.esp
37 25 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
38 26 EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
39 27 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
40 28 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
41 29 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
42 2a Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
43 2b Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
44 2c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
45 2d Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
46 2e Paralyze.esp
47 2f Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
48 30 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
49 31 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
50 32 Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
51 33 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
52 34 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
53 35 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
54 36 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
55 37 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
56 38 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
57 39 ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
58 3a MoreBanditCamps(Original-Edition).esp
59 3b RealShelter.esp
60 3c Complete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
61 3d TheChoiceIsYours.esp
62 3e Book Covers Skyrim.esp
63 3f SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
64 40 Wenches - Merged.esp
65 41 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
66 42 Immersive Wenches.esp
67 43 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
68 44 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
69 45 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
70 46 hearthfireextended.esp
71 47 JKs LITE - Merged.esp
72 48 Holidays.esp
73 49 RBB Long Boats.esp
74 4a Armors - Merged.esp
75 4b TGLNordArmor.esp
76 4c Point The Way.esp
77 4d UI - Merged.esp
78 4e FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
79 4f Creatures - Merged.esp
80 50 Weapons - Merged.esp
81 51 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
82 52 Differently Ebony.esp
83 53 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
84 54 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
85 55 BFSEffects.esp
86 56 FireAndIceOverhaul.esp
87 57 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
88 58 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
89 59 LeftHandRings.esp
90 5a imp_helm_legend.esp
91 5b Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
92 5c dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
93 5d dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
94 5e WondersofWeather.esp
95 5f ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
96 60 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
97 61 TrueStorms.esp
98 62 TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
99 63 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
100 64 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
101 65 AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp
102 66 AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
103 67 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp
104 68 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
105 69 DragonShoutVoice.esp
106 6a Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
107 6b Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
108 6c Traps Make Noise.esp
109 6d BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
110 6e BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp
111 6f BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
112 70 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
113 71 FNIS.esp
114 72 VioLens.esp
115 73 MortalEnemiesv1.2.esp
116 74 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
117 75 MovementandStaminaOverhaul.esp
118 76 GuardAnimationsGDO.esp
119 77 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
120 78 LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp
121 79 BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp
122 7a vSCM_SmarterCombatMusic.esp
123 7b RealisticHuskySounds.esp
124 7c ISCompendium AOS Patch.esp
125 7d ISCompendium CCO Patch.esp
126 7e ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp
127 7f Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp
128 80 LC2013.esp
129 81 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
130 82 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
131 83 Immersive Wenches -Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul Patch-.esp
132 84 Run For Your Lives.esp
133 85 RBB Large Boats.esp
134 86 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
135 87 Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp
136 88 Immersive Patrols II.esp
137 89 BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
138 8a AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
139 8b Dead Body Collision.esp
140 8c NonEssentialChildren.esp
141 8d BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp
142 8e BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
143 8f AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
144 90 Better Eagle Eye Redux.esp
145 91 Better Vampires.esp
146 92 CACO_AlternateNames.esp
147 93 Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0 non glow.esp
148 94 CACO_Campfire_Patch.esp
149 95 CACO_CCOR_Patch.esp
150 96 HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp
151 97 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
152 98 CACO_CoinReplacer_Patch.esp
153 99 Destructible_bottles.esp
154 9a Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp
155 9b CACO_UniqueBooze_Patch.esp
156 9c CACO_USLEEP_Patch.esp
157 9d WM Trap Fixes.esp
158 9e Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp
159 9f High Level Enemies - SIC.esp
160 a0 Mortal Enemies - SIC DLC2.esp
161 a1 Mortal Enemies - SIC.esp
162 a2 NPC Knockout Overhaul.esp
163 a3 SimpleMagicOverhaul.esp
164 a4 SimplyKnock.esp
165 a5 Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
166 a6 TradeBarter.esp
167 a7 CombatDramaOverhaul.esp
168 a8 Command Dragon.esp
169 a9 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
170 aa Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
171 ab Werewolf Loot- Dawnguard version.esp
172 ac RBB Row Boats.esp
173 ad SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RSPatch.esp
174 ae Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp
175 af When Vampires Attack.esp
176 b0 YOT - Better Vampires.esp
177 b1 getSnowy.esp
178 b2 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
179 b3 Antennaria.esp
180 b4 nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp
181 b5 RBB Long Boats - NSUtR.esp
182 b6 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
183 b7 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
184 b8 FarmhouseChimneys.esp
185 b9 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
186 ba RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
187 bb RealShelter USLEEP Patch.esp
188 bc LegendaryCompanionPerk.esp
189 bd Frostfall.esp
190 be Bijin Compilation.esp
191 bf TimingIsEverything.esp
192 c0 WATER Plants.esp
193 c1 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp
194 c2 LIAT - Sounds.esp
195 c3 LIAT - Less NPCs.esp
196 c4 LIAT - NPCs.esp
197 c5 JessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp
198 c6 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
199 c7 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
200 c8 PilgrimsDelight.esp
201 c9 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
202 ca HoldBorderBanners.esp
203 cb Argonian Access.esp
204 cc BlockSparkles.esp
205 cd Gildergreen Regrown.esp
206 ce RBB Row Boats - NSUtR.esp
207 cf GopherVision - Merged.esp
208 d0 Equipping Overhaul.esp
209 d1 My Home Is Your Home.esp
210 d2 Jaxonz - Merged.esp
211 d3 Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
212 d4 RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp
No_stretching.esp
Thundering Shouts.esp
213 d5 AOS2_IWIE Patch.esp
214 d6 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
215 d7 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
216 d8 YOT - Frostfall Module 3.0.esp
217 d9 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
218 da Inconsequential NPCs - EEO patch.esp
219 db FA Guard Helmet.esp
220 dc Headtracking.esp
221 dd TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
222 de argonianraptor.esp
223 df BCS - CCOR Patch.esp
224 e0 TCIY-BCS Patch.esp
225 e1 MoonGlow.esp
226 e2 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp
227 e3 KWTelescope.esp
228 e4 GuessDistance.esp
229 e5 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
230 e6 HarvestOverhaul.esp
231 e7 WM Flora Fixes HO Patch.esp
232 e8 WMFF Clams Drop Pearls Patch.esp
233 e9 ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp
234 ea OCR-Fixes.esp
235 eb No Twitching Or Spinning Death Animations - Merged.esp
236 ec Draconic Dragon Aspect - Merged.esp
237 ed 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
238 ee UnreadBooksGlow.esp
239 ef ABT - Merged.esp
240 f0 ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
241 f1 RelightingSkyrim_Legendary.esp
242 f2 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
243 f3 Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp
244 f4 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
245 f5 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
246 f6 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
247 f7 FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
248 f8 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
249 f9 XPMSE.esp
250 fa DynDOLOD.esp

 

 

Except for this visual glitch, I've almost got the game completely stable with all the mods I want. I appreciate any advice. Thanks :)

Edited March 15, 2016 by VirtuousParagon