i do have SSE Engine Fixes. i tried it with MemoryManager enabled, no change. if i load an old save, it CTDs almost immediately. if i start a new game, ILS. if i disable either DynDOLOD or Dreamborne, everything is fine. lots of these esps are esl-ified https://modwat.ch/u/poop4/plugins i'm not a huge fan of Loot, but i ran it just to see... no change. i really appreciate your time, thank you