freeze ups i mean the screen just freezes and i have to alt,tab,delete out to shut it down. Yeah i noticed an improvement when i wasnt running skyrim performance monitor. I always wanted to try open cities will consider your suggestions tho. As far as the Cot Interior and RLO interior plugins....good question il look into it and see if i can remove one or what not. Ive been seriously considering removing the autosave manager and latency checker as ive been noticing weird behaviors with the auto save manager. Thanks for your suggestions.