James_Richards

A complete fresh Windows 10 install, setup Steam, installed Skyrim to C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim. Mod Organizer 1.3.11 installed to C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\ModOrganizer. LOOT (latest installer) installed to C:\Games\LOOT Ran Skyrim from Steam for first time, setup all dependencies, Let Skyrim Launcher detect my hardware Played through the game into until I could open the menu and closed to desktop. Opened LOOT from the start menu, Skyrim is detected and it sorts the official DLC and plugins. Close LOOT Opened ModOrganizer, answered yes to associating nexus links. Selected LOOT from the executable drop-down and clicked run. Box pops up that MO is locked while loot runs. After a few seconds, goes right back to ModOrganizer, No LOOT window and no sorting. It should be noted that there are NO antivirus or security softwares installed yet. I have gone through and turned off the firewall and windows defender that comes with Windows 10. I have done this also running the executables as admin. The version of ModOrganizer and LOOT that is currently installed has been working fine before. Either part of Windows 10 updated, making this setup no longer work, or part of the OS gets moved tot he new install that has changed borking this. The only significant change that I know I instigated, was installing Enderal. But what in the nine hells could move from install to install related to this? Does anyone have any ideas? I would like to play Skytrim again, with mods and some fo the new ones, but so far that is not happening.

So...running LOOT from Mod Organizer in a "Skyim" folder doesn't work, but running LOOT from Mod Organizer in an any other DOES work. I am able to run LOOT from the Skyrim-Enderal folder without a problem... Anyone have any ideas?

My want to play Skyrim came last week, so I downloaded from steam my Legendary copy, did the normal run for a few minutes to ensure all my settings and configurations were in place. I then set out to setup Mod Organizer, LOOT had already been installed for Fallout 4, and that was no problem. I made sure it detected Skyrim outside of Loot, and again in Loot. Nothing was wrong. I then Installed STEP Extended 2.2.9.2. Everything was fine. LOOT ran without issue, I was able to edit Metadata and sorting rules. I then found Enderal. I was interested, but did not want to wreck my Skyrim I was working on. So I renamed my Skyrim folder to Skyrim-bak, renamed my Skyrim documents folder (ini's and saves) to Skyrim-bak. Downloaded a fresh copy. Installed MO into it, ran it once, LOOT opened just fine. Went through the install process and played for 5 minutes to ensure Enderal loaded. Renamed Skyrim to Skyrim-Enderal and tested it. Still loaded. MO still loads, LOOT loads from within MO. Happy. Renamed Skyrim-bak to Skyrim. Same here. MO loads fine. LOOT does its thing, I finish setting up STEP Extended and run for a few minutes testing out some things. Open LOOT a couple times to adjust load order of a couple plugins I installed outside of STEP (s handful of small utility mods I always play with) I then decided to try doing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74LjT96pr0 I followed Gopher's advanced video to have one install directory and LOOT has been borked since. The problem: I open MO from "Skyrim\ModOrganizer" and try to run LOOT. I get the 'locked' message from MO for a couple seconds, it then disappears. No LOOT window and no more sorting! I go into "Skyrim-Enderal\ModOrganizer" and run MO, good so far. Run LOOT from MO and it does what it is supposed to. What I have tried: Complete removal of LOOT (I use RevoUninstaller, so it finds all those little things left behind by installers) and I even deleted the local appdata folder for loot, reinstalled that from loot from scratch, downloaded a new Skyrim, went through fresh setup steps, running it for a few minutes, put a newly downloaded MO folder into my fresh, clean Skyrim folder. MO loads fine, and will still not open LOOT. I have run LOOT outside of MO, which runs fine outside of MO and still runs fine in my "Skyrim-Enderal" folder, to turn on debugging to make sense of the issue. I have no clue. Short of reinstalling Windows, I thought I would probe the community first. I have attached logs from these two programs under "Skyrim" Keep in mind, I have removed files in ".../appdata/local/LOOT" and ".../appdata/local/Skyrim" before attempting a fresh install to try and get LOOT to run in MO. If there are more files somewhere, none of my searches find them. Thanks for the time! CEFDebugLog.txt LOOTDebugLog.txt

OK. So. Leather Backpack is in Project Nevada already. Verified on the nexus page, so this will be a bit redundant. If there are special values (will look into it further) maybe I'll make my own PN patch or just modify those values directly to the PN Equipment module. I have received feedback on Bottle That Water, and just as oqhansoloqo pointed out, it's a bit much and unbalancing. I will probably make two setups, and see how my water supplies last in a playthrough. Sorry Audley, you are right. It'll be difficult to integrate the no peep site version of the repeater. Maybe I'll look into modifying the meshes and textures on WRP/WMX and see if that'll work, but I don't really have the steam to modify the modding of Fallout. I just want to play. RWD is definitely out. My own 30 minute testing shows that even though it's a good idea...it's not implemented very well. I am looking into finding an alternative. One thing I am curious about on the Manual Reload... How about Realistic Reloading? (nexus link) Many mods I add or want to use must be updated to at least 2013... Still looking into reducing load order to minimize instability. Any advice on what might be mergeable? I know with Skyrim there were some strict rules like mods that have scripts, reference scripts or script fragments should not be merged, unless you want to resolve conflicts by hand.

Yeah. I went back and watched a couple videos and have noticed it. I guess I'll just play around with difficulty and other settings. These were just some mods I played with before I started going with this mod list. I think before I add anything, I'll need to optimize my textures. I have an R9 290 and get barely above 30 fps while recording at least.

Has anyone ventured into further decreasing the load order by merging more of the mods in the current F&L NV list? I'm considering adding a small handful of mods and I've already removed some I really don't want and will be testing the reduced setup soon. Right now, I have 138 esp/esm, 128 active after the removal of some things. Here's my plan: Roleplayers Alternative Start Fallout New VegasModified: Tutorial Killer - reinstalled to not have Roleplayers Alternative Start compatibilityAfterschool SpecialTales form the Burning SandsSortomatic for Tales of the Burning SandsModified: Fallout Character Overhaul - FCO - Afterschool Special.esp Planned addition:Realistic Weapon DamagesWMR for WMX and PNCowboy Perk Complete - New Vegas BountiesBottle That Water and Bottle That Water PN patchLeather BackpackMissing Ammo RecipesCowboy Repeater without Peep SightWild Wasteland IntegratedManual Reload There are others I may add, but these I consider priority. Any thoughts?

@politemaster Wrye Bash will not really merge mods, but mostly leveled lists and such. It is not a true merge. As Nozzer66 pointed out, Tes5Edit is used to merge plugins. An example is this: Realistic Water, when fully implemented with as many mods as possible yields: RealisticWaterTwo.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp You can use Tes5Edit to merge:RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp Leaving you with the main esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp and another esp with the other 5 esp in one. Wrye Bash does not do this. I cannot explain what it actually does, but only say it's for conflict resolution and leveled list merging...

The number of active esp/esms is 255, hex FF. I'm glad Mod Organizer lets us know this. I believe, as I haven't attempted it yet, the game will CTD if more than that are active.

To start off, I have installed STEP Extended (2.2.9) as outlined in the guide and optimized the textures as suggested also.I then installed all of Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim (as of 02/10/2015, ver 4.0.3)Then Immersive Survival. I am requesting critiques, things I may have missed or just general advice to make sure it all works as intended. Changes to STEP Since I am using Realistic Needs and Disease, and I am using the STEP Extended patch... do I need to install Disease Descriptions? Even Better Quest Objectives optional selected:Do I need to get the Realistic Room Rental optional if I am installing all of REGS? Realistic Water two: did this instead:Options:1. Resolution - Medium2. Compatability - Realistic Needs and Diseas3. Combination - Legendary4. New Lands - unckeck Dawnguard and Dragonborn, check Wyrmstooth and Falskaar5. Waves - uncheck Skyrim + Dragonborn and Dawnguard, check Wyrmstooth and Flaskaar6. Other - bobbing Longboats Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2Same as STEP, selected Traps are Dangerous Skyfalls and skymillsyes on Dawnguard, Dragonborn, Falskaar and WyrmstoothLOD Compatability "I am using SDO"Optional Small Waterfalls - NoneOptional Patches - none Windmill sail Size - 1.5x vanilla (Default)Waterfall meshes - Realistic Water Two (Default) Cloaks of Skyrim, Cloaks of Skyrim Dawnguard and Winter is Coming all also have their CCO replacements as well. I am wondering if I missed anything. I am about to read the descriptions and run through the installers of ALL the mods so far to see if any missing optional files are needed, but the documentation for REGS is quite minimal when it comes to adding in those optional files. I am also thinking of freeing up some eps/esm slots. With evertyhing activated (to be conservative, I am still keeping "dummy" esps active for now), I am sitting at 214 active esp/esm. I would like to free some since I am still going to be working on this load out. Is it OK to merge the following: Cloaks.esp + Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp = Cloaks.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp + RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp + RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp + RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp + RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp + RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp = RealisticWaterTwo.espThis could free up at least 6 slots. Are there any others that you guys suggest merging? Current Load Order:[spoiler=Load Order]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Falskaar.esm Wyrmstooth.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm ORS_MorthalPain.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm mannyDragonhead.esm mannyBlackRock.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Moss Rocks.esp Footprints.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp ORM-Arvak.esp DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp ClamsDropPearls.esp Animated Weapon Enchants.esp ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp Footprints - Ash.esp Soul Gems Differ.esp Brows.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp RaceMenu.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Convenient Horses.esp BFSEffects.esp Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp BWS.esp Elemental Staves.esp Moss Rocks_DB.esp Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp Beards.esp Lock Overhaul.esp Paralyze.esp SkyUI.esp TradeBarter.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp ShootingStars.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp ADS.esp ORS_DremoraUpdate.esp Rainbows.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp Helgen Reborn.esp DawnofRiften.esp 3DNPC.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp Distant DetailHF.esp REGS - Better Docks.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp RBB - REGS Merge.esp ETaC - Complete EWDR Patch.esp Bring Out Your Dead.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp Thieves Guild Requirements.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp MoonAndStar_MAS.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp ETaC - Complete NoSnow Patch.esp Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp JKs Windhelm.esp NerniesCityandVillageExpansion.esp JKs Solitude.esp Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp BetterDGEntrance.esp BirdsHFclean.esp BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp JKs Whiterun.esp SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp Point The Way.esp FarmhouseChimneys.esp FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp SMDropLitTorch.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp WetandCold.esp AOS.esp IHSS.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Traps Are Dangerous.esp AOS2_TAD Patch.esp WM Trap Fixes.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp When Vampires Attack.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp Nightingale Hall.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Understone Keep Repair.esp Cloaks.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Dead Body Collision.esp Run For Your Lives.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp JKs Markarth.esp UniqueBorderGates-All.esp RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp iHUD.esp imp_helm_legend.esp mintylightningmod.esp quest_nomercy.esp ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp CWINPCImprovements.esp SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp tos_laintardale_hf.esp KhalSpellmakingMod.esp randomthunder.esp quest_seaofghosts.esp tos_amber_guard.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp tos_granitehall.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp FarmhouseChimneysWyrmstooth.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp quest_pitfighter.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Better City Entrances - No Whiterun.esp Snowbound Acres.esp REGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp ETaC - Complete ORS Patch.esp REGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp UniqueBorderGates-All-BetterDGEntrance.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp REGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp PilgrimsDelight.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp REGS Patch - STEP Extended.esp FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp Windhelm Lighthouse.esp MzarkWonders.esp PP_OgmundsTomb.esp high hrothgar overhaul.esp BlockSparkles.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp Aethernautics.esp Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.esp Apple garden.esp PP_WindcallerPass.esp quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp Chesko_Step418_SN.esp RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp STEP Extended Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Current Modlist:[spoiler=Modlist]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. +Imm Surv Dual Sheath Redux Output +ImmSurv Bash Patch +ImmSurv Wearable Lanterns -ImmSurv Winter Is Coming - Cloaks CCO +ImmSurv Winter Is Coming - Cloaks -ImmSurv Cloaks of Skyrim CCO +ImmSurv Cloaks of Skyrim +ImmSurv Bandolier - Dawnguard +ImmSurv Bandolier - Bags and Pouches -====Survival Clothing and Equipment +ImmSurv Wiseman303's Trap Fixes -ImmSurv - Traps Are More Dangerous, Mining Makes Noise, Mining Makes Noise CCO +ImMSurv Harvest Overhaul +ImmSurv Hunterborn +ImmSurv Realistic Needs and Diseases +ImmSurv Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival -====Survival Gameplay -====Survival -REGS Dual Sheath Redux Output -REGS Bash Patch +REGS A Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim - Patches +REGS Even Better Quest Objectives Patches -REGS Realistic Water Two Installed -====REGS Patches +REGS Spellmaking in Skyrim - The Last Altar +REGS Spectraverse - Magic of the Magna-Ge +REGS Aethernautics- A Space Travel Mod -====REGS - World Additions - Gameplay-Affecting Quests +REGS Windcallers Pass +REGS The Temple of Black Rock +REGS The Shadow of Meresis +REGS The Secret of Dragonhead +REGS The Lost Wonders of Mzark +REGS The Oblivion Realms Serie - Morthal Pain +REGS The Oblivion Realms Serie - The Gate of Solitude +RESG Quest - Sea Of Ghosts +REGS Ogmunds Tomb +RESG Quest - No Mercy +REGS The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.) +REGS Moon and Star +REGS Helgen Reborn +REGS Quest - And the Realms of Daedra -====REGS - World Additions - New Quests and Adventures +REGS Interesting NPCs +REGS Inconsequential NPCs -====REGS - World Additions - New NPCs +REGS Snowbound Acres +REGS Provincial Courier Service +REGS Places - Laintar Dale-Hearthfire Edition +REGS Places - Granitehall -REGS Cutting Room Floor installed +REGS Apple garden_Il giardino delle mele +REGS Places - Amber Guard -====REGS - World Additions - New Locations and Settlements +REGS Wyrmstooth +REGS Falskaar +REGS Faction - Pit Fighter Travels Add-On +REGS Faction - Pit Fighter -====REGS - World Additions - New Lands -====REGS - World Additions +REGS Realistic Boat Bobbing +REGS No Snow Under The Roof -REGS Lanterns of Skyrim installed +REGS Farmhouse Chimneys Patches +REGS Better Fast Travel - Carriages and Ships - Overhauled -====REGS - World Improvements - Enhancements +REGS Unique Border Gates +REGS Sky Haven Temple Merchants and More +REGS RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced +REGS Nightingale Hall Restored - Karliah as a Follower +REGS More Immersive Dawnguard Entrance +REGS Immersive College of Winterhold +REGS High Hrothgar Overhaul -====REGS - World Improvements - Locations +REGS Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File +REGS Expanded Winterhold Destruction Ruins -====REGS - World Improvements - Settlements +REGS Windhelm Lighthouse +REGS Nernies City and Village Expansion +REGS Better Docks +REGS Better City Entrances -====REGS - World Improvements - Outskirts +REGS Understone Keep Fountains and Rubble +REGS JKs Windhelm +REGS JKs Whiterun +REGS JKs Solitude +REGS JKs Markarth +REGS Dawn of Riften -====REGS - World Improvements - Cities -====REGS - World Improvements +STEP FNIS Output +STEP Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS +STEP LeanWolf's Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer -STEP Dual Sheath Redux Output +STEP Dual Sheath Redux -STEP Bash Patch +STEP - Skyrim Total Enhancement Project -====STEP 2.N - Patches +STEP Even Better Quest Objectives +STEP When Vampires Attack +STEP Wet and Cold - Ashes +STEP Wet and Cold +STEP Traps Make Noise +STEP Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf +STEP The Paarthurnax Dilemma +STEP The Choice is Yours - Fewer Forced Quests - Improved Dialogue Options +STEP Skyrim -Community- Uncapper +STEP Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux +STEP SM Drop Lit Torches +STEP Run For Your Lives +STEP Oblivion Gates +STEP Non-Essential Children +STEP Lock Overhaul +STEP Gildergreen Regrown +STEP Follower Trap Safety +STEP Dual Wield Parrying +STEP Convenient Horses +STEP Come together N Out of the way - Nausicaa-S Tweaker +STEP ClamsDropPearls +STEP Bring Out Your Dead +STEP Auto Unequip Ammo -====STEP 2.M - Gameplay +STEP Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds +STEP Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds +STEP Thundering shouts +STEP Smooth blades draw and sheath +STEP Realistic wolf howls +STEP Lower Sounding Thieves Guild Door +STEP Improved Combat Sounds +STEP Immersive Skyrim Thunder V6 +STEP IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds +STEP Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul +STEP Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2 +STEP Better Weapon Swing Sounds +STEP Better Horse Pain Sounds +STEP Better Animal Footsteps -====STEP 2.L - Sound +STEP White Phial Replacer +STEP Sweet Mother - the Night Mother Improvement +STEP Super Realistic Ore Textures +STEP Soul Gems Differ +STEP Skyrim Redesigned +STEP Silly Level of Detail - Wine Cellar -- SLOD WC +STEP Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons -- SLOD PnP +STEP Septim HD +STEP Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel +STEP Realistic Instruments - Flute Lute and Drum HQ +STEP Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons HD +STEP Pilgrims Delight - High Hrothgar Shrine Retextures +STEP Not Really HD Keys +STEP N-R HD Display Case +STEP Intricate Spider Webs +STEP HQ Paper +STEP HD Sacks Retexture +STEP HD Ore And Ingots +STEP HD Linens +STEP HD Baskets Retex +STEP Gemling Queen Dragon Claws +STEP Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 1k v1.6a +STEP Enchanting Candle Meshes Improved +STEP Detailed Rugs +STEP Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored - Performance Edition +STEP Better Shadowmarks +STEP Better Bones +STEP The 418th Step -====STEP 2.K - Clutter and Miscellaneous +STEP Skyrim Performance PLUS +STEP Shooting Stars +STEP Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear +STEP Running with your Bow Replacer +STEP Rainbows +STEP NoMaaM Breathing Idles BBB +STEP Lightning during Thunder Storms +STEP Improved Weapon Impact EFFECTS Correct Metal +STEP Finer Dust +STEP Enhanced Blood Textures +STEP Enchantment Effect Replacer +STEP Dual Wield Blocking Animations +STEP Deadly Spell Impacts +STEP Dawnguard Rune Weapons FXS Replacer +STEP Burn Freeze Shock Effects +STEP Better Turn Animation only One pose +STEP Animated Weapon Enchants +STEP Animated Clutter -====STEP 2.J - Animation and Effects +STEP Ultimate HD Torch +STEP Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile +STEP Nightingale Prime HD +STEP New Thinner Torch +STEP Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux +STEP Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project +STEP Gemling Queen Jewelry +STEP Elemental Staffs +STEP Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows +STEP Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized +STEP Better Circlets HQ V1o1 +STEP aMidianBorn stormcloak officer armour +STEP aMidianBorn imperial light and studded +STEP aMidianBorn Book of Silence +STEP aMidianBorn Blade of Woe +STEP Natural Eyes -====STEP 2.I - Clothing and Equipment +STEP Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles +STEP XCE - Dawnguard +STEP XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement +STEP Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak +STEP Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures +STEP PondFish and Salmon Replacer +STEP new children +STEP More Realistic Hair +STEP Improved Foot Wraps for females +STEP Frost Atronach HD Retex +STEP Female Vampires Have Fangs +STEP Cover Khajiits +STEP Brows +STEP Birds and Flocks +STEP Better Freckles +STEP Better Beast Races v2 +STEP Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack +STEP Beards +STEP 83Willows 101BugsHD +STEP Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack -====STEP 2.H - Characters and Creatures +STEP Whiterun Trellis Redesigned and HQ +STEP Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised +STEP Visible Windows +STEP TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation +STEP The Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons +STEP Terrain Bump +STEP Stalhrim of Skyrim +STEP Skyrim Improved Puddles +STEP Distant Detail Hearthfire Edition +STEP Realistic Water Two +STEP Re-Defined Dungeons WIP +STEP Real Wood Textures - Farmhouses +STEP Real Ice +STEP Point The Way +STEP Moss Rocks - Dragonborn DLC Addon +STEP Moss Rocks +STEP Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One +STEP Improved Vanilla Mountains HD +STEP Hybrids HD Plants and Herbs Retexture +STEP HQ Snow Texture +STEP HiRes Legible Road Signs +STEP High Quality LODs +STEP Farmhouse Chimneys +STEP Footprints +STEP Enhanced Night Skyrim +STEP Enhanced Distant Terrain +STEP HD Enhanced Terrain +STEP Dragon Glyphs HD +STEP Skyrim Flora Overhaul +STEP aMidianBorn Whiterun +STEP aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape +STEP aMidianBorn Farmhouse +STEP aMidianBorn Caves and Mines -====STEP 2.G - Landscape and Environment +STEP A Quality World Map +STEP Enhanced Distant Terrain 2 +STEP High Quality Food and Ingredients +STEP Tobes Highres Textures +STEP HD Misc +STEP Skyrim Realistic Overhaul +STEP Serious HD Retexture Skyrim +STEP Static Mesh Improvement Mod +STEP SkyFalls + SkyMills +STEP Ultimate HD Fire Effects -STEP The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.) +STEP Realistic Smoke and Embers +STEP Ruins Clutter Improved +STEP Bethesda Hi-Res DLC Optimized -====STEP 2.F - Conflicting Graphics +STEP Smaller Cursor +STEP SkyUI +STEP RaceMenu +STEP Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem +STEP Main Font Replacement +STEP Lore-Based Loading Screens +STEP Lockpicking interface retex +STEP KenMOD - Time on loading screen +STEP Immersive HUD - iHUD +STEP High Quality 3D Map +STEP Better MessageBox Controls +STEP Better Dialogue Controls -====STEP 2.E - Interface +STEP XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS +STEP Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade +STEP Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade +STEP Trade and Barter +STEP Smart Souls +STEP Skyrim Project Optimization +STEP SKSE -Elys- AltF4 +STEP Ragdoll Paralysis +STEP Improved closefaced helmets +STEP Guard Dialogue Overhaul +STEP Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice +STEP Fast travel timescale fix +STEP Double Cursor Fix +STEP Dead Body Collision Fix +STEP Cutting Room Floor +STEP Consistent Older People +STEP Clothing and Clutter Fixes +STEP Bowlegged jump animation Fix +STEP Appropriately Attired Jarls +Unofficial High Resolution Patch +High-Res DLC 3 Optimized Textures *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03 +High-Res DLC 2 Optimized Textures *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02 +High-Res DLC 1 Optimized Textures *Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01 +Unofficial Dragonborn Patch +Dragonborn Optimized Textures +Clean Dragonborn ESM *Unmanaged: Dragonborn +Unofficial Hearthfire Patch +Hearthfires Optimized Textures +Clean Hearthfires ESM *Unmanaged: HearthFires +Unofficial Dawnguard Patch +Dawnguard Optimized Textures +Clean Dawnguard ESM *Unmanaged: Dawnguard +Unofficial Skyrim Patch +STEP Distant Decal Fix +Skyrim Optimized Textures +Clean Update ESM +STEP Stable uGridsToLoad +STEP SKSE - 1.07.02 -====STEP 2.D - Fixes -====STEP 2.C - Extenders -====STEP 2.B - Cleaned and Vanilla

2. If you are installing a major modification and then optional files, I install with funtion MERGE or modification installed under another name?hard question to answer. It depends on your personal tastes and where you plan on going. During the Core install, some optionals are left out, but needed when going to Extended. Until you have a better grasp, I would suggest installing the mod from scratch, selecting the optionals you need, then rename it. Add "STEP Extended" to the end of it as example and then disable the previous version of the installed mod. To clarify, when i started installing STEP, i added to the end of all mods "STEP Core". Once I knew that was installed, complete and stable, I started from the top, found mods that had optionals for Extended, and renistalled those mods, making necessary adjustments and added "STEP Extended" to the end, deactivating the "STEP Core" version. I hope that makes sense. I just thought of something. If a mod has two files to install for a single mod, I would merge them. of course, this question would be best answered if I knew at least one of the mods you were having trouble or concern with.

The SR:LE guide has the instruction included to disable that warning. in fact, I left a lot of MO setup options that way when I started dabbling in SR:LE before abandoning it back to STEP. I say, add it in. It can't really hurt anything and may help the person who is less able to comprehend what is written in English.

I am going to go on ahead and call this thread answered. i am moving in a different direction until I understand more. Thanks for all your help!

Read, read, read seems to be the best advice you need at the moment. I have installed STEP many times int he past and yeah, I start screwing up by not paying attention and keep adding things left and right. Now, I am doing much better. As I install a mod from STEP, I read the mod's description form the Nexus. i pay attention to what mods might complement it later, or changes I may need to pay attention to for when I start using any of these packs. I have managed to get STEP Extended, Explorer's Guide, Immersive Survival and Weather and Lighting installed, hitting the mod limit and have a VERY stable experience. Don't get me wrong, I am very much as greedy as you probably. But I am forcing myself to stop and pay attention to what I am doing. For instance, I have stopped adding mods, but I have a spreadsheet and notepad open with notes I am keeping. Things like what esps might be mergable to free up more slots, what mods will actually conflict with others, (I've had to let go a couple must-have mods because of this), etc. As for your question Ok, so i use both guides but first start off with the STEP: 2.2.9 guide and then when i finish with that one i go to the second link you posted or i have to pick from one of the guides? I believe and I may be wrong here, STEP Core/Extended and Skyrim Revisited are two separate "bases" to start modding from. For now, until i understand more about conflict resolution and mod interaction, i am sticking with just STEP Extended. This might be the right advice for you. Pick one ;) Also in case i do not want one of the mods that have the green bar will the step core patch work or the mods with the green bar are imperative to be installed? Try it. Add all the mods into Mod organizer, activate the mods you want, keeping the ones you don't inactive and after applying the STEP Patch, see if through Wrye Bash if it complains it's missing a master. You have two choices then: 1) install the mod anyway. 2) Learn how to strip out the merged info from the STEP patch. 1) is the easy road 2) is the harder more rewarding road. Also i want to install SkyRe and Complete character overhaul. By what i have read about STEP and SkyRe and CCO i believe it should work together so should i install them, and other mods out of the guide, after i finish the step project?Correct. Make sure your STEP or Skyrim Redone (whichever you choose) install is as solid and stable as possible. Then start adding things. I can tell you form the past (long before the STEP 2.2.9 release) that SkyRe and CCO can work together with STEP (not sure about Skyrim Redone, I have not used it) I have done it before. Sorry for having so much questions, i just want to get this right. Sorry for the trouble and thanks for the help! ^^Shut your mouth! At least you are asking with some manners and tact. "oh noez my nstal not werking!HALP!" gets no one anywhere. It never hurts to ask a quesiton unless that quesiton ahs been answered hundreds of times or is explicitly stated in description and instructions. As a newbie, now willing to take your time and read what you are doing, you are afforded the "dumb" questions every now and again ;) Good luck!

@hishtup Yup. I am watching for that. Especially with STEP and REGS. Every step is being followed to the letter. For packs that don't have good descriptions and instructions will require some deeper research and paying attention to what they do. On another note, since I have followed the DDSOpt guide and optimized the HighRes DLC 1-3 textures, did that guide and batch files optimize ALL textures in the DLC BSAs? If so, I can remove the bsa and esp files from the data folder, further increasing the esp/esm slots I can use.

Thanks to both of you. @TechAngel85, yeah...I know. My thinking is this: Extracted or not, the mod's assets will be replacing the vanilla assets. Having "loose" versions of mods vs bsa versions of mods ensure the mod content overwrites the vanilla content. I am also doing that for myself as a base for modding the future. My plan is to install STEP Core/Extended, RGES, Weather and Lighting and Survival. Along the way each Pack will be tested to ensure it loads alone, then slowly integrate them till they are active and I can ensure they are stable. Then it'll be down to resolving any lasting conflicts, Look for mergable plug-ins then start adding any mods I would like to play with. I remember I had a mod setup using SkyRe and Character Creation Overhaul... I would like to try that again.

It's been a looooong time since I've played Skyrim and the mod folders have been trashed, so I am starting from scratch with STEP Core/Extended. Since I don't have a whole lot of time with being newly married and full time job, I cannot spend a lot of time on resolving issues on my own research. Well, I could... but sometimes I do get impatient. I don't need an answer on this right away, but if someone could help, that would be awesome. I am following STEP Core and Extended 2.2.9 to the letter. In the Core install, Brawl Bugs Patch is being used. During Mod Organizer's install of the mod, I have it set to un-archive the BSAs. There is nothing but scripts and Mod Organizer says it's a dummy anyway. So...I can free up a slot just by either removing the esp or putting it into the optionals folder, correct? There should be no issue since this BSA only had script files and the esp is a "dummy". I'll be opening it soon in TES5Edit, I just thought I'd ask. After playing for about 30 minutes on STEP Core, there doesn't seem to be any ill effects. Also, same thing happening with Better Weapon Swing Sounds. I am still in the middle of setting up Extended, so I can switch gears at any time. Thanks for your time!