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Found it. TexGen fired up and is running as it should. The xedit log messages pointed me right to it. I think I realize now how I messed up. I had made one single change to the Ayleid Aquarium plugin using the creation kit AFTER I flagged the esp as an esl using xedit. That one change gave me a bad form id. (Or an un-compacted form id?) I have several of what they call 'twinkle lights' scattered about the interior and I remember adding one more 'twinkle light' after flagging as an esl. My solution here was to (1)unflag the esp. (2)Resave it without the esl flag. (3)Close xedit. (4)Reopen xedit. (5)Recompact the form id's and reflag the plugin as esl. That eliminated the error in xedit and TexGen fired up and is running proper. I'll come back if there's anything else worth reporting, or if you have any questions about my ramblings. Have a great one you holy cow you! Thanks for the help!

Will do. Be back in a few with a report. Thanks!

I have permission from Betalille to upload my version to Nexus so if I've made a mistake now would be a perfect time to catch it. I could copy it to my google drive and drop a link to it if you want to have a look see.

Ayleid Aquarium is a modified version of The Dragonborn's Aquarium by Betalille. I made quite a few changes so it's entirely possible that I'm the culprit here. LoL! I don't have a discord but I'll sign up and snag the experimental version if need be. I have my load order opened up in xedit 4.0.4 now. It opened up without a hitch.

Hello. Hope everyone is doing well. Here's one that I don't understand. An "assertion failure." It just happened as I started re-running TexGen from Dyn 3 Alpha 83. Alpha 82 ran through fine, but I'm not sure what to do about this one. No hurries or worries, modkin. Here's a look at the debug file. https://paste.ee/p/rw8SG

Since I had the same problem last night, I'll throw my two cent solution out here. I was overlooking the error inside 'Dyndolod/logs/TexGen_SSE_log.txt'.. I literally overlooked the error at least 5 times before I FINALLY went back one last time to check the log and the error was right there, staring me in the face the whole time.. TexGen_SSE_log.txt is where your error will be located, modkin. As well as an idea of what to do to remedy it. Scroll through the log (slowly) and you will most likely see an error pointing you to the mod giving you grief. I hope that helps, xxIon3wolf13xx. Cheers everyone !

Hello again, good sir ! Apologies for taking so long to return. I was going to drop by on the day that S.T.E.P went offline and report back. I was going to tell you how I had my issue narrowed down to the Large Reference Fix. When I tested with the Large Ref fix disabled, the windows were fine. The good news is, we no longer have to suffer thru my ramblings because whatever fixes you've made between version 2.44 and version 2.47 fixed this right up for me. I just finished testing out the latest version of DynDOLOD (2.47) and the windows are now perfect. Just wanted to drop in and let you know. Thanks once again for everything you do here, man ! Cheers, Sheson !

Gotcha. Man, I'll refrain from coming back with any more ramblings until sometime next week. You enjoy your weekend, you holy cow you. Thank you a million times over for humoring me ! I'm going to do myself a favor (and you) and re-read the funtastic manual again. I haven't read it since the very beginning of all this DynDOLOD greatness and I see now a refresher course is definitely in order. I'll RTFM later on and get back testing proper throughout the weekend. Thanks again, man !

I'm going to attempt the quote thing.. DynDOLOD SkyUI MCM Main page. Thanks. Sounds simple enough. I'll try that and see what happens in just a bit. DynDOLOD plugins. The EditorID of these references contains the plugin filename and form id for the reference of the building these windows belong to. For example Skyrimesm_0CA730_DynDOLOD_GLOWLOD Yessir. Both models are referenced by the DynDOLOD plugins and nothing else. Those are the models that are giving me the double windows. They are all added in from the Skyrim.esm. No other plugin besides BDS makes any changes to them. No loose files overwriting the originals. They are.. WinterholdExtTowerRing01.nif - Form ID 00105567 - BDS changes the snow material. Referenced by DynDOLOD and ICOW. WinterholExtTower01.nif - Form ID 0015569 - BDS changes the snow material. Referenced by DynDOLOD, Falskaar, and ICOW. SFarmhouse01.nif - Form ID 000b11ac - Referenced by Falskaar only. SFarmhouse02.nif - Form ID 000b11b8 - No changes or references from any plugin. SFarmhouseSilo.nif - Form ID 0009936f - Referenced by Relighting Skyrim only. DynDOLOD Resources SE version are used. Everything I'm testing and reporting on has come about by starting a new game for each version of DynDOLOD. I have my saves separate so i know which saves come from v2.43 and which saves come from v2.44. That way when I switch between the versions for in game testing, I know that the saves match up to the version of DynDOLOD that they were started with. Not sure how to check if all of the scripts are used.. skse\plugins\StorageUtilData\DynDOLOD_Tamriel_Objects.json and you should find a lines like DynDOLOD_Tamriel_Objects.json from v2.44 does indeed show "WinterholdExtTower01:10" and "WinterholdExtTowerRing01:10". It names quite a few models this way. DynDOLOD_Tamriel_Objects.json from v2.43 doesn't show any of the model names like in the .json from v2.44, but I do find the 'decimal' of 'WinterholdExtTower01' and 'WinterholdExtTowerRing01' in both files. On the exact same lines, actually. So, yes, both files from both versions appear to be the same. Here's where in game testing gets interesting.. Using DynDOLOD v2.43 everything works correct. The transition from LOD to full model works as it should and the windows are loaded in perfect. I can 'tcl' from the cliff across the way and do a walk around of the college and all of the windows are properly loaded. No doubles. Using DynDOLOD v2.44 however, results are a bit erratic. I have a save where I'm right across from the college standing near the cliff. When I load the save, the windows around the 'WinterholdExtTowerRing01' are doubled up, but the 'WinterholdExtTower01' windows are correct. When I 'tcl' and walk over towards the college, the windows on the 'WinterholdExtTower01' double up when I make it to the backside of the college. When this happens, the windows on the 'WinterholdExtTowerRing01' models correct themselves. I can keep circling the college and this cycle repeats itself. I have a few things to do so i won't be able to get much testing done till later, but I'll load up the saves using Dyn v2.44 and see about disabling the Large Reference Fix and test. Just in case it matters, I'm using skse64 v2.0.7 and Papyrus Util v3.4b for all of this. Not sure if that is relevant but I feel I should mention it just in case that's an issue. Thanks yet again for helping me try to sort this out. It's much appreciated, man. Once I've managed to do some testing with the Large Reference fix disabled, I'll wander back though. Cheers ! EDIT - Well, the quote thing almost worked.. Lol

Hello again, Dragon King. I wanted to come back and give up some more information since I've made quite a bit of progress. Nothing super definitive, but progress nonetheless. I'll do my best to get straight to the point as to avoid rambling. :) I've followed all of your advice. (All except the 'disable large reference and test' part.. I'm not exactly sure how to go about that, honestly..) -Everything in the DynDOLOD MCM seems to be fine. -I enabled papyrus logging, but I'm not finding any errors from any script starting with 'sheson.' (I assume that's what I should be looking for there.) Nothing else that I can see in the papyrus log seems relevant to the issue at hand. -I checked the 'DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt file and the only lines I could find that looked anywhere near relevant looked like this. (I'm only going to post a few lines instead of the entire section. I saved the logs this time in case I need to refer back to them.) [00:02:38.318] disabled NeverFade, replaced by static LOD for CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp [REFR:000CA6DE] (places WinterholdExtRing01 [sTAT:00105564] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00000D74] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C]) at 28,27) There are several more lines just like that referencing different 'WinterholdExt' models. Models like 'WinterholdExtTower01.nif', 'WinterholdExtTowerRing01.nif', etc, etc.. Towards the end of the 'DynDOLOD_SSE_log.txt, under the part that says [00:13:14.427] Checking for plugins causing texture z-fighting flicker because of large references bugs. I found a few lines like this [00:13:17.228] CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp [REFR:000CA6EA] (places WinterholdExtTower01 [sTAT:00105569] in GRUP Cell Persistent Children of [CELL:00000D74] (in Tamriel "Skyrim" [WRLD:0000003C]) at 28,27) for no good reason. Remove overwrite from CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Like before, the other lines like this reference different 'WinterholdExt' models. -I checked in the cache folder in the 'DynDOLOD_SSE_alt_textures_tamriel.txt' file for any overwrites and I didn't find any at all pertaining to this. (I'm assuming this is the file you were suggesting to find the overwrites in.) -I located the form id's of the architecture pieces giving me the double windows (The windows giving me grief are all built in to architecture models.) and then loaded my entire load order in xEdit. The only mod that alters them in any way is Better Dynamic Snow. BDS only changes them to have BDS snow material instead of the vanilla one. The only mods I have installed that reference these models are Falskaar, ICOW, DynDOLOD, and Relighting Skyrim. (For what it's worth I took notes, so I can be specific as to which models are referenced by which mods. I also have the form id's of five of the models giving me grief if needed.) -I scoured through my entire mod list looking for models that overwrite anything in the 'meshes\architecture\winterhold' folder and the only mod that adds to that location is ICOW. It adds in some 'winterholdtowerintwall' models only. ( I only checked for loose files. I didn't go so far as to extract any bsa's. I will though. :) ) -The only texture mods I use that effect windows for Winterhold are Noble Skyrim and RUSTIC Windows. I also found out that if I leave the area where I find these double windows, when I return they are normal.. (All except for the windows on the 'winterholdexttower01.nif' and the 'winterholdexttowerring01.nif'. Those windows stay doubled up no matter what I try. ) O.k so, after I dug all of that info up I decided to experiment again.. I found that if I use DyDOLOD v2.43 instead and tick the 'high' button, all of the windows are fine. No other changes except for reverting back to DynDOLOD v2.43. I've repeated this a couple of times (switching back and forth between v2.43 and v2.44, I mean.) so I can say for sure that I only encounter this with DynDOLOD v2.44. This is what prompted me to return and give you all of this info. In other words, I still have no idea why DynDOLOD v2.44 gives me double windows but v2.43 works perfectly. Once I found myself at a loss again, I decided to come back and report. If I'm missing something or if I've looked in the wrong place(s) for any of that information please give me hell about it and I'll dive back in. I don't really play Skyrim so much as just mod it, so I'm all for trying something else. (or being scolded for doing something wrong. :( ) Mega thanks once again for humoring me, man. If you knew how hard it was for me to get this far with Bethesda modding you'd know that it's nothing short of a miracle that I'm able to convey any of this to you. My formal education ended in the middle of the tenth grade and I've been winging it ever since ! Cheers yet again, man !

Hey, man. I just wanted to drop back by to apologize for being short with my last response. And to let you know that I am pressing forward with your advice. I'm back to digging instead of speculating. Just wanted you to know that I'm not ignoring your advice and moving on to something else. So, your time spent on me won't go to waste. I already dug up the form id's of the 'winterholdexterior' pieces that the windows are embedded in and my next step is to go through xEdit and see what I can find. I will be seeing this through to a solution. Thanks again, modkin Cheers

I won't take up anymore of your time, man. Thanks for the info and suggestions.

O.k. so, I found a few more double windows in game.. This got me to thinking real hard about what I've changed lately. I really haven't changed much at all in my load order in quite a while so I'm thinking surely I would have noticed these double windows by now. Then it hit me. When I updated to DynDOLOD v2.44, I did something new. I ticked the box labeled 'High', the setting for windows to react to sunlight. Up until now I've had it unchecked. I only checked it because the hint popped up explaining what that setting was for and I remembered ticking it back in Oldrim. Now that I'm thinking about it, didn't you mention a while back to not check that box in Special Edition ? I might be mistaken, but it seems like I've read somewhere to leave it unchecked. Anyway. Once I remembered that I had ticked that box, I reran Dyn again with 'High' unchecked and everything was right as rain again. The College windows, the double windows I found after I posted, all of them were perfect. Just to make super sure that this might be what I'd done differently, I reran Dyn yet again but with the 'High' box checked and the double windows were back. I then ran Dyn one more time with the box unchecked and sure enough, the windows were all perfect again. All of this was tested by starting a new game each time, so I'm pretty sure that the 'High' setting is what is disagreeing with my setup. (Or maybe not functioning proper in SE ?) I think I'll leave it here for now, it's been a long day. I'll wait and see what you think about this new nugget of info before I continue testing and rambling. Cheers, man

I got a little sidetracked with getting my son off to school. It's early morning where I am. Yessir. I'm using DynDOLOD v2.44 and ICOW v5.2, same as you. Before the morning rush here, I was able to do a quick run around in game and so far the rest of the windows look o.k. I wasn't able to check ALL of the windows in game, but everywhere I did check they all looked fine. It would seem that my 'double windows' are only at the Winterhold College. I also tried re-running DynDOLOD with ICOW installed but I unchecked the esp file when running TexGen and LODGen. That fixed all of the windows on the main central tower of the college. Image 2 above shows one of the tall windows from the main central tower. Unchecking the ICOW esp file seemed to 'fix' those windows. But the shorter towers (image 1 above) to the left and right of the gate as you enter the courtyard were still doubled.. Weird. I'll come back later on after I do some more checking and testing. I'm going to run DynDOLOD again and get myself back to exactly how I was when I posted. That way I can go through and check my logs proper and find the definitive answer to what's giving me grief here. (Like I said, I got a bit sidetracked after I posted here..) Thanks for pointing me in the right direction ! (I now owe you my second born ! Lol !) Once I've gone through the logs and double check everything, I'll wander back and report. Thanks again, Sheson !

Seems the edit button has disappeared, so I'll add one more post before I run off to Tamriel again for testing. I also just found the "I've done something weird with DynDOLOD and windows in Solitude world - They are not disabling and are doubled up" thread and I feel that solution is going to be what helps me out. (I swear I looked though the forum before posting. I just looked through it too fast) Apologies for adding yet another "Double Window" thread. LoL ! I'll come back later on with more info to wrap this lunacy up. Cheers again, man !