STEP:Core Proposal/H

Bellyache's Creature Pack

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla textures using the default option Techangel85 (talk) 10:27, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

I am not convinced that this mod is better than vanilla (anyone care to counter with screenshots? ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Template:Yes (a little better than vanilla) Kelmych (talk)

101 Bugs

Votes

HD improvement of vanilla texures; however, adds new bugs and ingredients not found in vanilla Techangel85 (talk) 10:30, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 17:20, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Thecompiler (talk) 06:22, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

(I like it, but it isn't really vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 20:46, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Neovalen

Antz in my Pantz

Votes

Fixes what I believe to be a development oversight. The ants are placed in the game; however, during development they seemed to have been forgotten about. Adds new locations and makes them harvest-able like many other vanilla insects. Adds new content/ingredients to the game besides the ants.(I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 10:40, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Thecompiler (talk) 06:19, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 16:22, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:46, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Neovalen

Realistic Hair

Votes

Template:Yes HQ improvement of vanilla textures Techangel85 (talk) 10:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Need compare with the new HD Lore Friendly hair. Neovalen

Template:Yes (but we might want to have a partial replacement in some of the future packs) Kelmych (talk)

AOF Believable Hair

Votes

Adds new hair textures Techangel85 (talk) 10:45, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes HQ improvement over vanilla. Still, if Superior Lore Friendly Hair wins out, then this can be dropped. WilliamImm (talk) 11:00, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:23, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Need compare with the new HD Lore Friendly hair. Neovalen

Beards

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla textures. Unlocks beards that were already present in Skyrim; however, weren't include in the vanilla game for whatever reason. Not new content, just unlocked content. Techangel85 (talk) 10:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:48, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Bellyache's Dragons

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement and fixes of vanilla dragons Techangel85 (talk) 10:53, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Again, are Bellyache's textures really better than vanilla? I have never been a big fan ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:47, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Better Beast Races

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla textures Techangel85 (talk) 10:53, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:47, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Better Freckles

Votes

Template:Yes Removes red "splotches" of vanilla textures and improves freckles Techangel85 (talk) 10:55, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Birds & Flocks

Votes

Adds a ton of spawning points to vanilla as well as adding bats to the game Techangel85 (talk) 10:58, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Thecompiler (talk) 06:19, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:48, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 20:26, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Neovalen

Birds of Skyrim

Votes

Adds new spawn points to vanilla. Adds new seagull sounds (that possibly conflicts with the other sound mod we have). Introduces new textures. Techangel85 (talk) 11:03, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Thecompiler (talk) 06:20, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:49, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 20:27, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

In fact, remove this... so immersion breaking. Neovalen

Breathing Idles

Votes

Template:Yes Fixes a vanilla oversight Thecompiler (talk) 01:21, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 11:05, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:47, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Brows

Votes

HQ retexture of vanilla brow textures. From same author as Beards so they fit perfectly together. Adds new brow sytles. (I could go either way on this one. Are the added brows worth not including this?) Techangel85 (talk) 11:08, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes If you install the mod and don't activate the .esp, won't you get the improved textures without the additional styles? (same for Beards). (if the new styles are a problem, let's just recommend that the .esp not be used) Kryptopyr (talk) 10:51, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I think even new styles are innocuous enough not to fret over. Same with beards and hair. ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:49, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Cover Khajiits

Votes

Template:Yes Very detailed textures, and a strong improvement over vanilla. WilliamImm (talk) 11:02, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 11:09, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:49, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Dawnguard Rewritten-Arvak

Votes

Template:Yes Arvark in vanilla looked like a Poundland action figure and not like it was made of bone. WilliamImm (talk) 11:03, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes There is a improved version of the vanilla texture included as well. Techangel85 (talk) 11:09, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Vanilla replacer only. ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:54, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:28, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes May wish to consider adding CH Alsvid patch if keeping CH. Neovalen

Diverse Priests

Votes

Template:Yes Vanilla oversight IMO...or just laziness. Thecompiler (talk) 21:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I seem to recall a potential compat issue with this one ... ? ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:54, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

The only thing that keeps me from voting a solid 'yes' on this mod is the differing outfits in the Temple of the Divines. This somehow makes it seem like the least organized of the temples, when I feel it should be the most organized and cohesive. This one detail tends to make me aware of the presence of the mod and breaks immersion. Overall, though, I do really like this mod, and it was easy enough to alter it to fit my preference. But I'm just not sure that I feel the default mod is really vanilla enough for Core. Kryptopyr (talk) 21:23, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 10:37, June 29, 2013 (MDT)

Female Vampires Have Fangs

Votes

Template:Yes Vanilla fix Thecompiler (talk) 21:21, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 11:33, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:24, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:50, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Frost Atronach HD

Votes

Template:Yes HQ replacement of Vanilla textures Techangel85 (talk) 11:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:24, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (a little better than vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 20:52, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Ice Wraith

Votes

Template:Yes HQ replacement of Vanilla textures Techangel85 (talk) 11:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:24, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

I never saw this one as an improvement. Just different. ~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

(better to have it in the new pack) Kelmych (talk) 20:52, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Same as Krypt, not really an improvement imo. Neovalen

Improved Foot Wraps

Votes

Should not even be in STEP now. Requires an additional mod to work properly. Only female mesh is covered Techangel85 (talk) 11:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:53, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Better Male Feet only covers the male mesh, so I don't see what the difference is there. I'm unclear if FemFeet is actually still needed for this mod, given that FemFeet states in it's description that the latest version is included in XCE (this is assuming of course that XCE gets included in Core). If it is still needed, then this mod should only be accepted if we also add FemFeet to Core. Kryptopyr (talk) 21:09, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Neovalen

More Village Animals

Votes

Adds more spawn points for animals. Various issues exist Techangel85 (talk) 11:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 11:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:55, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 20:30, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Neovalen

New Children

Votes

Template:Yes Mesh correction for some children models Techangel85 (talk) 11:39, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:53, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:31, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Pond Fish

Votes

Is an improvement over vanilla. Changes texture colors. (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 11:41, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

While the vanilla mesh does seem to suggest a guppy, the bright coloration of these fish just feels out of place in the cold climate of Skyrim. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:30, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Thecompiler (talk) 06:21, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:53, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Rabbits Plus

Votes

Adds multiple rabbit textures to the game. Add new content the to game. Techangel85 (talk) 22:52, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Apparently buggy and the ESP can be replicated by using this Automatic Variants pack (with only rabbits). WilliamImm (talk) 09:17, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

If we're just wanting a texture replacement this author provides these textures in a separate mod that is strictly a retexture. Thecompiler (talk) 06:22, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Kryptopyr (talk) 16:24, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Textures only, not the plugin. ~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Kelmych (talk) 20:51, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

If you want variation, use AV. Plus this adds a rabbit farm. :) Neovalen

Xenius Character Enhancement

• Changed two votes based off "if" statements

Votes

Template:No I changed my vote based off Core. Packs should include their own character replacers and body mods. These type of mods should not be in Core for compatibility reasons with packs. Techangel85 (talk) 22:59, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Seems to me it doesn't use the HQDLC textures as a base Thecompiler (talk) 06:24, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Only if there is no other alternative. What does SR use? ~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes If you are wondering, SR doesn't use this mod, mainly because other mods in it (All-In-One Face, Mature Skin, Better Males, Better Makeup, among others) overwrite it, and SR uses a high-res warpaint replacer from the same author as XCE to replace warpaints. Still, considering that AIO Face and Mature Skin require UNP or another female body replacer, and that Better Males is a body replacer, there's reason to keep this mod. WilliamImm (talk) 21:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:32, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Unless we are going to replace these elements with what we're doing in SR Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

On the fence here, XCE is very good vanilla replacer but if core is going to be a base for packs... I know for SR I got rid of it. Neovalen

Kelmych (talk)

XCE-Dawnguard

• Changed two votes based off "if" statements

Votes

Same reasons as I stated for XCE above. Techangel85 (talk) 23:01, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Seems to me it doesn't use the HQDLC textures as a base Thecompiler (talk) 06:24, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Only if there is no other alternative. What does SR use? ~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 20:33, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Unless we are going to replace these elements with what we're doing in SR Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Vampire eyes are covered by the dawnguard optional of Eyes of Beauty, and Neo basically copies over the vanilla head textures for the vampire head because of personal preference. Falmer eyes were replaced as well, but the mod that did it (Improved Eyes Skyrim) was taken down. And really, that would be the only thing that we'd use if we follow more of Neo's guide. WilliamImm (talk) 21:46, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

On the fence here, XCE is very good vanilla replacer but if core is going to be a base for packs... I know for SR I got rid of it. Neovalen

(agree with Neo) Kelmych (talk)

Better Male Feet

Votes

Same reason as XCE above and Neo below. Techangel85 (talk) 23:05, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 16:25, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:50, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Prefer to keep body mesh modification out of core. Neovalen

Natural Eyes

Votes

HQ improvement of vanilla textures. Adds a few new textures. (for me, this is a yes; however, there are other eye mods out there so we may want to put it in the pack for compatibly purposes) Techangel85 (talk) 23:17, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 15:22, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Indifferent. Solist (talk) 21:05, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Template:Yes Lives up to the name. WilliamImm (talk) 15:41, June 28, 2013 (MDT)