After weeks of research, learning and careful setup I am at the end of creating my modded Skyrim with only about 10 more mods I need to add, and find I am getting random CTDs in exterior areas. I've been adding mods in slowly in groups of 5 or so and stress testing each batch using the fly around method, as well as dragging followers around getting in fights, spawning in tons of NPCs and starting massive brawls in Windhelm. I have never crashed or froze in any of these situations, but now when I'm just cruising around outside doing nothing stressful at all, I am occasionally experiencing CTD in random places all over the map for no reason I can pinpoint. I've been toting around Inigo, Vilja, and Duraz (interesting NPCs follower) for testing purposes, so they were present at the time of the CTDs. One CTD was in Riften, the others were in random wilderness areas and on the roads.
I am using Mod Organizer, running LOOT religiously, creating TES5 Merged Patches and Wyre Bash bashed patches as per the instructions given on the youtube gamer poets channel. I have the SKSE memory settings applied and memory blocks log enabled. At the time of my last CTD this is my memory blocks log:
logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
Block1 Block2
512MB256MB
With the final numbers in the log being:
332200
ENBoost is applied and I am running Vividian ENB
I am also using the Skyrim Mod Combiner for textures, which I added pretty early on in my build and have had no apparent problems with.
The only mod I ran into any real problems with happened in this last batch and was "Death Alternative - Your Money or your Life" which seemed to cause freezes during the post-combat bleedout recovery phase. I uninstalled it, started an entirely new game and all freezing disappeared.
After the CTDs began I enabled papyrus logging but of course have no idea what I'm looking at. Here are the last bunch of lines after the most recent CTD happened:
"CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.psc" Line 16
[02/25/2015 - 12:50:38PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"
stack:
[ (301CDD0B)].CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.OnCellLoad() - "CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.psc" Line 16
[02/25/2015 - 12:50:38PM] Error: Cannot call IsEnabled() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
[ (301CDD0A)].CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.OnCellLoad() - "CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.psc" Line 16
[02/25/2015 - 12:50:38PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp0"
stack:
[ (301CDD0A)].CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.OnCellLoad() - "CWFortSoldierWoundedScript.psc" Line 16
[02/25/2015 - 12:50:53PM] Error: (00085B0A): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.
stack:
[ (00085B0A)].lvlpredatorscript.Enable() - "<native>" Line ?
[ (00085B0A)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 40
[02/25/2015 - 12:50:54PM] Error: (00085B09): cannot disable an object with an enable state parent.
stack:
[ (00085B09)].lvlpredatorscript.Disable() - "<native>" Line ?
[ (00085B09)].lvlpredatorscript.OnCellLoad() - "LvlPredatorScript.psc" Line 38
[02/25/2015 - 12:54:23PM] Error: (00103122): cannot disable an object with an enable state parent.
stack:
[ (00103122)].ObjectReference.Disable() - "<native>" Line ?
[ (FF00159E)]._DE_Campfire_Lightable.OnInit() - "_DE_Campfire_Lightable.psc" Line 153
Here is my load order:
# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
MFVM.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
BlackHorseCourier.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
NoLeveledItemRewards.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
FISS.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
AOS.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
Guards Attack Hostiles.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
Beards.esp
Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp
FSP - Dragonborn Edition.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
ImprovedFrostyFrostSalts.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
ImprovedFireyFireSalts.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
3DNPC.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp
Patch - Interesting NPCs - RS kids.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
No_stretching.esp
Patch - Falskaar - RS kids.esp
Patch - Wyrm - RS kids.esp
RAIN.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Real Roads.esp
Skysan_Icicle.esp
Rainbows.esp
VioLens.esp
Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
SkyUI.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Thieves Guild Redone.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
Combat Evolved.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
RBB - Snow Merge.esp
Better Series - JK's Whiterun Outskirts Compatible.esp
OBIS.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
ScottishBanneredMare.esp
Improved Artifacts - Complete Collection.esp
OBISDB.esp
OBIS Loot.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
Inns and Taverns.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp
TakeNotes.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
Vividian - Diverse Weathers - AOS.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp
Vividian - Windy Clouds - CoT.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
WetandCold - Holidays.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
SkyrimSewers.esp
BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Inigo.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Animal Tweaks.esp
Animal Tweaks - OBIS Patch.esp
Animal Tweaks - SIC.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Cloaks.esp
TES5EditMerged.esp
CWINPCApachiiSkyHair.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp
WSCO - Better NPCs.esp
WSCO - OcciFemaleUNP.esp
WSCO - OcciBetterMale.esp
No Snow Under the Roof - JK's Skyrim.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
OBISCloaks&IA7.esp
Inconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Vivida ENB.esp
LPBards.esp
Thane Weapons Improved.esp
LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
FSP - Dawnguard Edition.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
Yield 2.0.esp
iHUD.esp
skycity3.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
WATER Plants.esp
Shortcuts.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
iNeed.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
And the most recent mods I added were:
Apachii hair
FISS (for using "Take Notes")
Bosmeric Huntsman
Scottish Bannered Mare
Take Notes
Immersive College of Winterhold
A Matter of Time
Inns and taverns
Shortcuts
Better Series (docks and entrances)
Inigo
Vilja
Out of this bunch I suppose I'm most suspicious of Immersive Winterhold, though I have no real reason to think there's any problem there. When I went to check it out I did however notice some potential issues with the lighting just outside at the bottom of the bridge where that elf stands guarding the entrance waiting to test you on arrival. There was some flickering that seemed wrong but I can't imagine that's the cause of my woes. Seemed more like a texture issue.
I also got 36 ITM records warning with Inigo, but apparently those are intentional, or so the various discussions seem to indicate.
I don't know what more information I can give here, that's all I know and I can't figure it out. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
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aaltair
After weeks of research, learning and careful setup I am at the end of creating my modded Skyrim with only about 10 more mods I need to add, and find I am getting random CTDs in exterior areas. I've been adding mods in slowly in groups of 5 or so and stress testing each batch using the fly around method, as well as dragging followers around getting in fights, spawning in tons of NPCs and starting massive brawls in Windhelm. I have never crashed or froze in any of these situations, but now when I'm just cruising around outside doing nothing stressful at all, I am occasionally experiencing CTD in random places all over the map for no reason I can pinpoint. I've been toting around Inigo, Vilja, and Duraz (interesting NPCs follower) for testing purposes, so they were present at the time of the CTDs. One CTD was in Riften, the others were in random wilderness areas and on the roads.
I am using Mod Organizer, running LOOT religiously, creating TES5 Merged Patches and Wyre Bash bashed patches as per the instructions given on the youtube gamer poets channel. I have the SKSE memory settings applied and memory blocks log enabled. At the time of my last CTD this is my memory blocks log:
[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uExterior Cell Buffer=36
[Display]
fSunShadowUpdateTime=1.00
fSunUpdateThreshold=0.500
fDecalLifetime=256.000
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1
[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0
[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
bDrawShaderGrass=1
bGrassPointLighting=1
b30GrassVS=1
iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=15
iMinGrassSize=90
[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Invalidation.bsa, Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
SInvalidationFile=
[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectSky=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
skyrimprefs.ini:
[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
fDefaultFOV=100
[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=1
[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=3
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=4000.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=512
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=1024
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=0
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=5000.0000
fGamma=1.2400
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=3005.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=0
iShadowMode=4
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bDrawLandShadows=1
bShadowsOnGrass=1
bDeferredShadows=1
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=10000000.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=10000000.0000
iScreenShotIndex=2
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=250
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=800
bFloatPointRenderTarget=1
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 (192-bit)"
bFXAAEnabled=0
iShadowMapResolution=2048
fShadowBiasScale=0.2500
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=0
iShadowFilter=3
bDrawShadows=1
[Grass]
b30GrassVS=0
iGrassCellRadius=2
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=0
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=0
bSaveOnWait=0
bSaveOnRest=0
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=4
[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bShowCompass=1
[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=1
bUseKinect=0
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=1510155800
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=1510154422
fVal5=0.8500
uID5=3954
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=587618417
fVal3=0.7000
uID3=94881
fVal2=0.5500
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8000
uID0=1007612
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=250000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=150000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=40000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.1000
bShowLODInEditor=0
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20
[Decals]
uMaxDecals=250
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=50
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=40
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=7.5000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=4.5000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3
[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1
[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0
[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=2048
iWaterReflectWidth=2048
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
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