Sky is visible in a cave

[ram911]

I have an issue that I was hoping to get some help solving or pointed in the right direction. I have a profile using Mod Organizer 1.2.14 that includes STEP Extended + COT + ELFX + ELE + additional mods. I have taken some time to read up on ENB's and decided to load Vividian 6.30 with brighter nights and interiors, ELFX, ELE, COT weather patch, and vanilla patch. Two things made me unhappy on first load :

 

. Nights too dark

 

I found a thread that helps my concerns with the darker nights by adjusting settings in the ENB GUI which works well, but the culprit may be a mod I am not aware of yet.

 

. FPS took a big hit 25 exterior 45 interior

 

I read the ENB Wiki and used the setting in the enbseries.ini 

EnableDepthOfField=false and the FPS increased to 38-45 exterior and 48-60 

 

I decided to go to

Ruunvald Excavation

 

As I entered the cave My FPS increased while inside 48-60 and holding everything seemed to be running smoothly and the lighting was very good. Out of nowhere I approached another chamber and I noticed the sky showing through the top of the cave. I have included two images to indicate my issue. 

 

This is my mods list

Cleaned Update

Unofficial Skyrim Patch

Unmanaged: Dawnguard

Cleaned Dawngaurd

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

Unmanaged: HearthFires

Cleaned Hearthfires

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

Unmanaged: Dragonborn

Cleaned Dragonborn

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02

Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03

Unofficial High Resolution Patch

skse 1 07 01

Stable uGridsToLoad

Memory Blocks Log

Distant Decal Fix

Appropriately Attired Jarls

Bowlegged jump animation Fix

Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition

Clothing and Clutter Fixes - LEGENDARY

Consistent Older People BOYD

Dead Body Collision Fix

Fast travel timescale fix

Fuz Ro Doh

Guard Dialogue Overhaul

Improved Closefaced Helmets (Legendary Edition)

Paralyze

SKSE -Elys- AltF4

Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version

Smart Souls

Trade and Barter

Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade

XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS

Better Dialogue Controls v1_2

Better MessageBox Controls v1_2

High Quality 3D Map

Immersive HUD - iHUD

KenMOD - Time on loading screen

Lockpicking interface retex

Lore-Based Loading Screens

Main Font Replacement

Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem

RaceMenu v2-9

SkyUI

Smaller Cursor

Unknown Enchants - Wrye Bash Freindly

Ruins Clutter Improved

Realistic Smoke and Embers

The Skyrim Distance Overhaul Beta (S.D.O.)

Ultimate HD Fire Effects

SkyFalls + SkyMills

Static Mesh Improvement Mod

Serious HD Retexture LANDSCAPE 1024px

Serious HD Retexture RIFTEN 1024px

Skyrim Realistic Overhaul 1.6

HD Misc v1

Tobes Highres Textures

HQ FOOD-INGREDIENTS 1-6 PerformanceRepack

Enhanced Distant Terrain 2

A Quality World Map

aMidianBorn Caves and Mines

aMidianBorn Farmhouse 1k

aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape 1K

aMidianBorn Whiterun

Skyrim Flora Overhaul

Dragon Glyphs HD - Fixed

HD Enhanced Terrain PRO - Blended Version

Enhanced Distant Terrain

Enhanced Night Skyrim

Footprints

Hearthfire Chimneys for Skyrim

HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res

HiRes Legible Road Signs

HQ Snow Texture

Hybrids HD Plants and Herbs Retexture

Improved Vanilla Mountains HD

Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One

Moss Rocks

Moss Rocks - Dragonborn DLC Addon

Point The Way

Real Ice

Real Wood Textures - Farmhouses No Green Moss Version 1K

Realistic Mushrooms

Re-Defined Dungeons 1024x1024

Realistic Water Two

Skyrim Distant Detail Hearthfire Edition

Skyrim Improved Puddles - SIP

Stalhrim of Skyrim

Telvanni reborn

Terrain Bump

The Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons

TreesHD_Skyrim_Variation

Visible Windows

Vivid Landscapes - Tundra Moss Revised

Whiterun Trellis Redesigned and HQ

Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack

83Willows 101BUGs V4 1 LowerResolution

Beards

Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack

Better Beast Races v2

Better Freckles

Birds and Flocks

Brows

Cover Khajiits

Female Vampires Have Fangs

Frost Atronach HD Retex

Improved Foot Wraps for females

More Realistic Hair

new children

PondFish and Salmon Replacer - texture

Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures

Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement

XCE - Dawnguard

Faces - GeonoxFaces

Underwear - Default

Natural Eyes

aMidianBorn Blade of Woe

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC

Bonemold Hotfix

aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Add On

aMidianBorn imperial light and studded

aMidianBorn stormcloak officer armour

Better Circlets HQ V1o1

Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized

Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows

Elemental Staffs

Gemling Queen Jewelry

Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project

Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux

New Thinner Torch

Nightingale Prime HD

Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile

Ultimate HD Torch

Animated Clutter

Animated Weapon Enchants

Better Turn Animation only One pose

Dawnguard Rune Weapons FXS Replacer

Deadly Spell Impacts

Dual Wield Blocking Animations

Enchantment Effect Replacer

Enhanced Blood Textures

Finer Dust

Improved Weapon Impact EFFECTS

Lightning during Thunder Storms

Lightning during Thunder Storms - Climates of Tamriel - Patch

NoMaaM Breathing Idles BBB

Rainbows

Running with a bow 3rd person

Smaller Ice Spike and Ice Spear

Shooting Stars

Skyrim Performance PLUS

The 418th Step 1 2 - Snow Version

Better Bones

Better Shadowmarks

Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored - Standard Edition

Detailed Rugs

Enchanter Candle Meshes Improved

Enhanced HD Dragon Bones 1k v1.6a

Gemling Queen Dragon Claws

HD Baskets Retex

HD Linens

HD Ore And Ingots

HD Sacks Retexture

HQ Paper

Intricate Spider Webs

Mystery Modders Shrines HD

N-R HD Display Case

Not Really HD Keys

Pilgrims Delight - Legacy

Radiant and Unique Potions and Poisons HD

Realistic Instruments Pack

Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel

Septim HD

Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons -- SLOD PnP

Silly Level of Detail - Wine Cellar -- SLOD WC

Skyrim Redesigned

Soul Gems Differ

Super Realistic Ore Textures

Sweet Mother - the Night Mother Improvement

White Phial Replacer

Better Animal Footsteps

Better Horse Pain Sounds

Better Weapon Swing Sounds

Audio Overhaul for Skyrim 2

Dragons Shout with Voice

Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul

IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds

Immersive Skyrim Thunder V6

Improved Combat Sounds

Lower Sounding Thieves Guild Door

Realistic wolf howls

Smooth blades draw and sheath

Thundering shouts

Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds

Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds

Auto Unequip Ammo

Bring Out Your Dead

ClamsDropPearls

Come together N Out of the way - Nausicaa-S Tweaker

Convenient Horses v5_0

Dual Wield Parrying

Follower Trap Safety

Gildergreen Regrown

Lock Overhaul

Oblivion Gates

Run For Your Lives

SM Drop Lit Torches

Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux

Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

Wet and Cold

Wet and Cold - Ashes

Cutting Room Floor

When Vampires Attack

Even Better Quest Objectives

Thieves Guild Requirements

Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps

Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade

The Choice is Yours

The Paarthurnax Dilemma

Non-Essential Children

DYNAVISION - Dynamic Depth of Field

Glowing Ore Veins 300

Unread Books Glow

Book Covers Skyrim 2 9 7 LEGENDARY - Original

Bookshelves Updated SKSE Script

Redguard Knight Armor

Severin Manor Improvements

Severin Manor Guard for Dragonborn DLC

Windstad Manor Free Tenants

Windstad Manor - Master Bedroom Suite

Lakeview Basement Bedroom - Hearthfire

Sherzie'sLakeviewKitchen

Lakeview Manor Fish Hatchery

LakeViewManorUpgrades_V_1_10_EN

Lakeview with Main Hall Library

Manor Roads (Arthmoor)

Enhanced Lights and FX

Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard

Enhanced Lights and FX - Dragonborn

Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch

Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch

My Home Is Your Home v2.3

Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS

Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Spells

Fores New Idles in Skyrim - Creaures Pack

Dual Sheath Redux

FNIS Patch

DSR Patch

LeanWolf's Better Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer

Vividian ENB - Weather and Lighting Enhancement - Vivid Color Version

STEP Extended Patch 229

Climates Of Tamrial Bashed Patch

 

Load Order :

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[ram911]

I think the lighting included in this ENB is awesome I linked some screenshots of what I mean, but pictures do not come close to what I see on my monitor.

 

Here is a screenshot of Breezehome Vanilla

 

Here is a screenshot of Breezehome ENB

[Mangaclub]

greetings. Your load order looks ok. Please do not forget ot install the vividian vanilla weather patch. I highly recommend that one.

You might want to try out ELE + Relight skyrim . they are supposed to be most conflictless.

 

ohyes and since you like the interiors, have a loo kat the beta section on the modpage, there you can find the cozzy interors to test out ;)

[ram911]

Update :

@Mangaclub The load order is giving me some issue's to this point, I guess I needed to learn a little more about how Loot and Mod Organizer resolve conflicts. I did not forget to load the Vividian Vanilla Patch like you recommended previously, (I failed to include it in the paste bin link) I am amazed how you are able to keep all those .ini files for your ENB organized it is tough to keep my different load orders in check. Great call on the Relighting Skyrim and ELE, it does have less conflicting issues. I have your cozy interiors folder downloaded and will try them out and give some feed back. 

 

My thoughts on ELFX :

Pros : Great ambiance within interior cells,

          The lighting gives off more FX especially in dungeons.

 

Cons : Too many plugins

           Load order alongside ELE creates some conflicts 

           

 

My thoughts on Relighting Skyrim :

Pros : The light sources are more realistic,

          Light sources that previously did not light their area do now.

          Better compatibility,

 

Cons : Less striking effects, (but still really looks good) 

 

Here is my current load order in case anyone needs something to look at while setting these mods.

Load Order

           

I will post some pictures as soon as I work out the FPS, I am currently running 32-60 fps. My goal is to achieve 40-60 if that is even possible with my hardware. If any one has some suggestions let me know. I am currently using the 4 cores 8 threads .ini files from the support files. (Pictures really do not compare to what I am seeing on my monitor)

 

Thanks for everyone who helped me to think out load and get back to my play through. 

[JawZ]

The issue you posted in the pics are caused by improper Rommarker and Portalmarker setups. Judging by how things are missing, if it was missing textures from meshes it would all be purple, not just gone from the image.

It can also be an Occlusion Plane that causes it.

Both roommarker/rommbounds and occlusion planes does the same thing, hides objects that does need to be viewed because the player aren't looking at them.

 

I don't edit roommarkers in any way that would cause such issues. I only remove Roommarkers own imagespace and lighting templates values so it won't overwrite the ELE imagespaces and lighting templates. And I don't touch portalmarkers at all.

I have discontinued updating the ELE - Interior Lighting found at the ENBDev forum, because ELE - Lite is now the direct replacment of that. And that has no such error with it, and comes with multiple merged versions that have been thouroghly tested for any possible issue, none so far.

Edited January 25, 2015 by JawZ

[Mangaclub]

yes the next update on the vanilla version will include ele light. Thanks for granting me this jawz!

 

ram: glad you found your suiting gaming environment now ;)

[ram911]

@JawZ Great Mod, ELE adds a very clean light to the game improving my interiors tremendously. I took a look at your files for the LITE version. Within the Vividian install files we have the options to load ELE :

 

ELE - FX Effects - Interior

         Interiors

         Interiors - Legendary

         Relight Skyrim Color Patch

 

I have all of the above installed along with COT + Relighting Skyrim + Vividian. Are you saying that the LITE version is more current then the separate modules included with Vividian ENB?

 

One more question, Everything seems to be running and looking good, BUT I have this Vignette that appears during cloudy rain or clear weather. I have enclosed a pic below. Is this an effect of the ENB that can be adjusted or some deeper issue.

 

Vignette IMG

 

Vignete IMG II

[Mangaclub]

ram: yes thats reported quiet often latley, something messes up with the lens shaders. I sadly cannot repoducethat and it makes totally no sense for me it just apepars randomly or on some weathers (lens effects are set to global). You can disable this by settings the Lens effects to false in the enbseries.ini for now until i find out whats going on there.

[ram911]

Mangaclub : Cool. Thanks for your response, I looked in the ENB settings (shift + enter) and noticed Vignette was disabled so I slightly gave some thought to my card (ASUS GTX 760) being taxed beyond it's capabilities.

 

I am not happy to see the problem, but I am pleased that it is a known issue. 

So I set :

              EnableLens=false

 

and the effect has gone away. 

 

Thanks for your help through this issue, I usually just read the post for information, but I am glad Mangaclub and JawZ as MOD Authors contribute to the resolution of issue's that may effect our play through while using your mods. I will endorse both mods if I haven't already....