Random crash when casting a magic spell

[Eagleman]

So i've been using STEP Extended with 2k textures where possible. After that i began using Vividian ENB with COT, ESS ELFX and RCRN.
 
Then when i started playing at random times my game crashes when starting to cast a magic spell.
 
I am not sure if i had this issue before using Vividian becuase i only started playing after installing Vividian.
 
This is my load order list:
 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
ADS.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Rainbows.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
BFSEffects.esp
Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Point The Way.esp
HearthfireChimneys.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
IHSS.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
Beards.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
SkyUI.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
Footprints.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Brows.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Paralyze.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
ShootingStars.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
Soul Gems Differ.esp
Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
Vividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
rcrnShaders.esp
AOS2_RCRN_AE_Patch.esp
ESS Patch for CoT DG Patch.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
RCRNdgdb.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
RCRNvolumetric.esp
iHUD.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
randomthunder.esp
Vividian - Diverse Weathers - RCRN + COT + AOS.esp
Vividian - RCRN Weather patch.esp
Vividian - Windy Clouds - RCRN.esp
Vividian - Extended Weathers - CoT.esp
STEP Extended Patch.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

Edited December 24, 2014 by Eagleman

[hishutup]

you can confirm these correct?

[hishutup]

instead of putting the mod list as a block of code can you use spoilers

 

 

[spoiler]
text
[/spoiler]

 

 

 

First, lets check the memory stuff

Download and install Memory Blocks Log then cause your game to crash (however you want) and then go to the overwrite folder/skse/plugins and share the text that is in the memoryblockslog.log

 

I doubt Im going to see anything on that one but I might as well make sure.

 

You dont need the following plugins because of the STEP patch

 

 

SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp

SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp

SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp

SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

 

 

 

I think I can also see that you are missing various Meta rules for loot. Did you check to see if you got all of them.

[Eagleman]

I removed the plugins you suggested to remove.

 

https://wiki.step-project.com/Bashed_Patch#Recommendations

 

I did add all those meta rules to loot, also meta rules with this notice:

 

Notice: STEP:Extended users: Please DISREGARD the following LOOT Meta Rules at this time. They pertain to interactions between this mod other mods installed downstream in STEP:Extended, so these rules cannot be implemented until those mods are installed. Those mod pages also contain similar LOOT Meta Rule instructions that can be applied later on.

 

I am now going to test the Memory Blocks Log.

 

I first ran LOOT to order the plugins then i rebuild the Bash patch becuase i installed the Memory Blocks Log plugin and ran LOOT. Should i re run loot after making the bash patch?

Edited December 24, 2014 by Eagleman

[hishutup]

Memory blocks log is an skse DLL. There i s no need to rebuild any patch and /or run loot

[Eagleman]

It just crashed when i was fighting the snow troll at the thousand steps, after switching over to fire destruction (i didnt caste it yet) and after leveling up my game crashed, forcing me to end it with task manager.

 

Windows did complain a few times in the background that i was running low on RAM but on max usage i only had 6.1GB of ram in use of the 8GB.

 

 

 

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
Block1 Block2
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EDIT

 

One of the last crashed also had this error about running low on RAM with windows, the windows error came at the same time as the game crash itself.

Edited December 24, 2014 by Eagleman

[hishutup]

well, found the problem... the skse memory tweaks are not working or are not existing in the skse.ini.

The memory blocks log should be like the following

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
Block1 Block2
512MB    256MB

replace your skse.ini with the following 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

If it looks like what is posted above then in the Mo executable arguments

-forcesteamloader 

[Eagleman]

I have that in my config, with the MO executable arguments you mean in SKSE and then as an Argument?

Edited December 24, 2014 by Eagleman

[hishutup]

[Eagleman]

So what does it do?

 

I do have the steam version of Skyrim, is it somehow not loaded when using SKSE with MO?

[hishutup]

the memory block log that you shared showed that Block1 size is 256 which shouldn't be the case because the memory patch increases it to 512 which reduces crashes almost completely. 

 

In other words, you are not using the memory patch because it isn't working. One way that is known to fix it for some people it to add the -forcesteamloader argument. 

Why? I don't know but it works.

 

Just do what I suggested and try to cause it to crash. I will be surprised if you succeed in causing it to crash 

[Mangaclub]

can assure you its no cause of vividian enb. More or less a memory problem it is.

[Eagleman]

It crashed after 2 hours of playing:

 

 

 

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
Block1 Block2
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This is my in S:\Utilities\Mod Organizer\mods\SKSE\skse.ini file

 

 

 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

 

 

Looks like it is still not using the 512mb memory blocks.

 

Also when trying to load any of my save game it is stuck on the loading screen and after a few seconds task manager says Skyrim is not responding. The game never loads.

 

A new game seems to work, but i want to be able to play with my save games, I am not going to start over becuase of some silly crash.

 

EDIT, recovered with the quicksave.ess.bak. However it still crashes when I am in riften, it has something to do with the vampires attacking, when I get near my game crashes.

Edited December 25, 2014 by Eagleman

[hishutup]

Did you add the argument that I said to add?

 

Actually place your skse.INI file into the data\skse folder

 

I don't know why STEP has people do it in MO, it just seems silly to me

[Eagleman]

Yes i did add the argument.

 

I now placed the SKSE from the mod folder in: S:\Skyrim\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\SKSE

[hishutup]

I guess the next thing to ask is can you start your game, load up into the world and then close out and share the memoryblockslog log