CTD by Scrolling through items a few times

[colorfuel]

Hi,

 

 

1. My system specs:

 

i5 3570K @ 4.5Ghz

7950 @ 1140/1625 3GB VRAM

16GB RAM / 1600 Mhz

 

2. Using ModManager

 

3. BOSS Load order:

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

Summary

SKSE Plugins

Recognised Plugins

Log Feature Support

Display Settings

Filters

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

    Skyrim.esm Active

    Update.esm Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}

    Dawnguard.esm Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev, Stats}}

    HearthFires.esm Active

    Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

    Dragonborn.esm Active

    Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Stats}}

    ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active

    SPIKE.esm Active

    HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

    HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

    HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

    Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active

    Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Stats}}

    ADS.esp Active

    BWS.esp Active

    ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp Active

    DragonShoutVoice.esp Active

    IHSS.esp Active

    Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active

    StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

    StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active

    TradeBarter.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active

    ClamsDropPearls.esp Active

    Dead Body Collision.esp Active

    fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Active

    Moss Rocks.esp Active

    ORM-Arvak.esp Active

    Point The Way.esp Active

    Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

    Traps Make Noise.esp Active

    DEAsprint&jump.esp Active

        Note: Won't work if sprint/jump key is remapped to mouse button.

    RaceMenu.esp Active

    RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active

        Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

    SkyUI.esp Active

    ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp Active

    hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

    imp_helm.esp Active

    imp_helm_imp.esp Active

    imp_helm_dawn.esp Active

    imp_guard_helm.esp Active

    Dr_Bandolier.esp Active

    SkyRe_Main.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}

        Note: If lockpicking is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'.

        Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.

        Note: To make aiming easier add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:

        Note: [Actor]

        Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

        Note: [Combat]

        Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

        Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

        Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

        Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

    SkyRe_Combat.esp Active

    SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Active

    SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active

    SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}

    SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Active

    Gildergreen Regrown.esp Active

    Run For Your Lives.esp Active

    When Vampires Attack.esp Active

    The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

    Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Active

    DiversePriests.esp Active

    DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

        Error: Bring Out Your Dead.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.

    FSS-No pause between lines.esp Active

    Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

        Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.

    dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp Active

    SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.esp Active

    Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Active

    aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active

    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Active

    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp Active

    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp Active

    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp Active

    Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp Active

    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active

    ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active

    ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

        Incompatible with: Realistic Lighting Overhaul

    MidasSkyrim.esp Active

    ArcheryDummyXP.esp Active

    Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active

    Enhanced Soul Trap.esp Active

    Soul Gems Differ - E.esp Active

    dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp Active

    Beards.esp Active

    Brows.esp Active

    3DNPC.esp Active

    Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active

    moveitLWT.esp Active

    NonEssentialChildren.esp Active

        Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

    AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active

    SkyRe_Races.esp Active

    SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Active

        Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.

    ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active

    EEO patch.esp Active

    DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp Active

    WATER.esp Active

    WATER Plants.esp Active

    WATER DG.esp Active

    WATER DB Waves.esp Active

    DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp Active

    ReProccer.esp Active

 

 

Both

 

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

 

are not active

 

 

4. Using STEP 2.2.7 Core

 

5. I followed the instructions to the letter, I suppose. I did it twice even.

 

6. I include other mods aswell

 

 

XCE

XCE Dawnguard

Dimonized UNPfemale body

NEW skin XCE for UNP

UNP Armor version

UNP Dawnguard Armors for Base body

UNP Dragonborn Armors

Etheral Elven Overhaul

Etheral Elven Overhaul Patches Dragonborn/Dawnguard/Jenessa Ireleth

Etheral Elven Overhaul Patches Interesting NPCs

Etheral Elven Overhaul Patches Interesting NPCs fix

Etheral Elven Overhaul Sky-re Compatibility patch

 

Project Reality - Climates of Tamriel-V3

COT- Dawnguard patch

COT- Dragonbotn patch

COT - Sounds

Midas Magic Spells for Skyirim FIXED

Realistic Lighting Overhaul

Training Dummies and Targets V

3DNPC - Inetersting NPCs

Bandolier - Bags and pouches

Sprint and Jump with Boost

Amazing Follower tweaks

T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

ReProccer - Automated SkyRe patch generator

 

I use RealVision ENB V2.0b.233 FULL with a few minor tweaks to Dof and Contrast.

 

 

7. I cleaned the mods using TES5Edit and ran BOSS several times

 

 

My issues are CTDs. I started playing with a new char. Wood Elf, Marksmanship etc, killed a few Bandits, went to the first village, got the golden claw quest, went up to Bleak Falls, killed a first bandit on the outside near the entrance to bleak falls and bam! CTD.

 

Then, I reload, went inside the Bleak Falls, and got several CTDs afterwards. At this point however I saw that always came about when I used the items menu. Then I tried in the normal menu, and somehow I can reproduce the crash, only by scrolling back and forwards through the items, maybe the torches or the gems, I cant really say exactly (I tried without HDTorches, but that didnt make any difference). But it doesnt happen right away. The items display normally, but after a few scollings up and down, it crashes.

 

I hope I gave all the necessary info.

[rootsrat]

You use quite a few mods that are not in STEP. The texture, weather and RLO mods should be fine, all the other ones are most likely culprits. First of - SkyRe is a very conflicting overhaul, especially if you use all the modules. I would start off with a smaller modlist (you can include SkyRe if you want) and got rid of the following:

 

Midas Magic Spells for Skyirim FIXED

Training Dummies and Targets V

3DNPC - Inetersting NPCs

Bandolier - Bags and pouches

Sprint and Jump with Boost

Amazing Follower tweaks

 

Start up Skyrim, and from main menu type "coc bleakfallsbarrow01" in console. This will make a default character and place you inside Bleak Falls Barrow. Make a test run and report back.

 

Oh, do you use Safety Load?

[colorfuel]

Hi,

 

Thank you for your suport. I dont use safety Load, but I will as of now.

 

I'll try your suggestions tomorrow, when I get back from work and report back asap.

[rootsrat]

Safety Load is the cause of CTD's when opening menus - that was the reason I asked :) So unless you're experiencing game freezes and ILS's (see here for more info) I wouldn't install it.

 

Read the mod's description carefully.

[phazer11]

You should follow Iroha's Skyrim Revisited + SkyRe guide it's in need of updating but should help you sort out your problems (especially after you read through the original Skyrim Revisited Guide)

 

I'd ditch Amazing Follower Tweaks for Enhanced Follower Framework and probably the others rootsrat mentioned though I think Mida's magic and Interesting NPC's should be ok if done right. Key words done right. Iroha's guide features a bit of a magic sytem overhaul in addition to the portions included in SkyRe so yeah. I'd post more but I'm running on no sleep it's been fun over here at my cousin's house for Thanksgiving.

[colorfuel]

Hi,

 

 

I just did what rootsrat suggested, removed said mods, ran BOSS, but the problem persisted. So I removed SkyRe and its patches. The problem was still there.

 

 

I will now read through Skyrim Revisited for further research. Thanks rootsrat, for the tip with the "coc" command, that makes testing alot easier. :)

[rootsrat]

Not sure what to suggest now to be honest.

 

If you want to, you can try wiping your install and redoing everything from scratch, but stick to STEP only this time and then test. When you've got it working, you can start adding mods one by one and keep testing.

 

The other possibility is that you have something wrong in your INI files, but I can't really think of any specific entries... It's a strange one.

[colorfuel]

Well yes, I think thats exactly what I will do. :)

 

I just tested with my CPU/GPU @ stock speeds, but that wasnt the problem either. (They were always stable in everything else, but you never know.)

[Quahogs]

@rootsrat - you mentioned Bandolier - Bags and pouches to remove, any issues in particular or maybe just a squirrelly mod in your experience ?

[rootsrat]

I used to use it before and I'm considering using it again, but mods that add A LOT of items to crafting menus are known to cause CTD's when crafting menus are opened. Another reason is that this mod is not in STEP, so I wanted to exclude as many conflict-prone non-STEP mods as possible in this particular case.

 

I don't think it caused me any issues last time I was using it, but it was quite a long time ago and I learned great deal since then, so I will be reassesing this mod at some point in future :)

 

Let's not get this thread off-track though.

[colorfuel]

So, before reinstalling all of it, I went through every single mod using the "coc" method and it turns out who the culprit was. ->Me.

 

The game crashed with the mod New thinner torches.

 

I had installed New Thinner torches using "Smoking Torches and Ultimate HD Torch Compatible-6950-1-0", instead of "Ultimate HD Torch by rheadude compatible".

 

So it was really my mistake.

 

I am Sorry for bothering everyone. But I still learned quite some things in the process.

[rootsrat]

No need to apologise, we all make mistakes :)

 

If it was also a learning experience, it's only in plus. Glad you got it sorted!

 

Marking as solved and moving the thread.