Yet more ctds and freezing

[7hr08ik]

OK guys,

 

Fresh game (8 hours gameplay)

 

Mod lists

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

JSwords.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

moonpath.esm

SPIKE.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Rainbows.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

DSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

fantasy music overhaul.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

Auto Unequip Helmet.esp

Better Embers.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT Nights lvl 8.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp

Book Covers Skyrim.esp

Book Covers Dawnguard.esp

Book Covers Hearthfire.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Point The Way.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

ShootingStars.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp

SwiftPotion.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Destructible_bottles.esp

ORM Convenient Alsvid.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

towConversation.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

towPov.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp

Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

Glass Variants.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

imp_guard_helm.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Dr_BandolierDG.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe-USP Patch.esp

SkyRe-RUPPB Patch.esp

SkyRe Script Fix v1.2.esp

Beautiful Whiterun.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

RealisticWhiterun.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Headtracking.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp

Unique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Better Vampires.esp

Predator Vision.esp

WerewolfMastery.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightMasteryPatch.esp

WerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

vDynamicDifficulty.esp

GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

Blaze Of Eventide.esp

HousecarlWhiterun.esp

moveitLWT.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp

EEO patch.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

Atlas Blackreach.esp

Atlas Dawnguard.esp

Atlas Hearthfire.esp

Atlas Dragonborn.esp

Unique Region Names.esp

RUPPB-DBE Patch.esp

ICS-EBT Patch.esp

AS-GDO Patch.esp

AS-RLO Patch.esp

BV-RLO Patch.esp

WM-BOYD Patch.esp

WM-SkyRe Patch.esp

SOS-BOE Patch.esp

SOS-AMM Patch.esp

AS-SOS Patch.esp

AS-RLO-SOS Patch.esp

SOS-URN Patch.esp

AS-URN Patch.esp

WM-BOYD-IW Patch.esp

SkyRe-SkyTEST.esp

SkyRe-EBV Patch.esp

IW-BOYD Patch.esp

ASG-AWE-SkyRe.esp

AM-SkyTEST Patch.esp

AM-SMIM Patch.esp

General Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

PreASISPatchEEO.esp

ASIS.esp

PostASISPatch.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

ReProccer.esp

qotsafans Ars Metallica Patch.esp

qotsafans WIC-CraftOnly ReProccer Patch.esp

qotsafans CBC EN LL ReProccer Patch.esp

qotsafans EEO + BringOutYourDead Patch.esp

qotsafans Miscellaneous ReProccer + Destruction Tweak Atronach 50 Patch.esp

SkyRe-DB Patch.esp

BCS-SkyRe Patch.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

 

 

 

Ini

 

 

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iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=1

fSunShadowUpdateTime=0

fSunUpdateThreshold=2.0

fDefault1stPersonFOV=85.0

fDefaultWorldFOV=85.0

iPresentInterval=1

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fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

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[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

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iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

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[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.64

f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.64

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fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6

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bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

bReflectExplosions=0

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

[VATS]

fVATSCastingAfterKillDelay=1.2000

uVATSRangedPercentSneak=100

uVATSRangedPercentGlobal=100

bVATSIgnoreProjectileTest=0

bVATSAllowNoKill=0

bVATSMultipleCombatants=1

bVATSForceRanged=1

 

 

 

skyprefs.ini is only tweaked as far as SR recommends

 

PC

 

 

i5 2500k - @4.5GHz stable (recently checked and stressed0

8GB Corsair RAM

ASUS GTX 670 4GB - @stock speeds

60GB SSD (windows)

1TB HDD (progs + data)

 

 

 

Game

 

 

Running Skyrim Revisited

Full settings

All DDSopt`d most big texture mods at 1024x1024

Launching with SKSE (1.6.15)

papyrus logging - OFF

skyrim perf mon - OFF (only used to test settings)

Have tried ATTK, light and full version but still get ctds and freezing

 

 

 

Issue

Recently gone through the lists and removed a few random mods, and some that are too buggy to fix (3dNPC etc)

Removed Automatic Variants to help with RAM, and hopefully fix my issue.

 

The problem is outdoor CTD`s and freezing...it doesn`t happen at any specific point it seems to be totally random, but once i hit a point it can be reproduced (if that makes sense?) Randomly occurs but i can load a previous save and it will happen again.

 

From what i can tell it happens when NPCs/Creatures pop in at the edge of the loading area. (hence why i removed AV) Taking AV off seemed to help for a few hours but now its still happening. I`ve read a few posts with people saying that running around too fast can cause it, but that's stupid. Im not gonna start playing the game slowly so i dont crash.

 

The best example was the giant camp outside whiterun....i was doing the companion missions. I left whiterun, got on my horse, and went towards the camp to get to Dustmans Cairn. I spotted the fire pop in and as soon as the mamoths pop in to view....CTD. I get this at random points around skyrim, but this is the only time i`ve managed to nail down the reason.

 

What im wanting, is to find out what mods can be causing this glitch. I thought AV coz of the mamoths...took it off and it seemed to fix it. (From what i can tell AV is safe to remove) But what else can be causing this? It deffinately seems to be caused by new NPC`s/creatures poping in, as it only happens when im moving. If im just waddling around gathering, or fighting, nothing....only when running/riding around.

 

EDIT:

Sorted ini file, so you can read it now.

Yes i have some extra lines in papyrus, but these have helped my stability ALOT. Esspecially with random combat freezing etc.

[Freyrgjurd]

Makes sense, yes.

 

It's a massive FPS drop. With VSync ON, you can only acknowledge that if it falls beyond 60~50fps.

But since you are with VSync OFF, then you'll notice the full drop.

 

As said, your GPU must be swapping the VRAM, because it's full. Give Skyrim Perfomance Monitor (on nexus) a try and get your values for VRAM and System RAM. You should see if the vram is filled and if the stutter occurs while changing cells.

[phazer11]

That's the thing I have optimized the 1k versions of my landscape texture packs and am not even using half of my VRAM outdoors not even It's about 1480 on average (though it doesn't seem to matter if ENB is on or not). My RAM hovers around 1800 on average.

[Freyrgjurd]

ENB will tax if Ambient Occlusion and SkyLightning are on and with high settings. But more of the GPU than VRAM.

It's good to keep ENB of for tests, since it "eliminates" a possible culprit.

 

The synthoms are base of FPS drops, if not by VRAM swapping, maybe script failure ? As for testing purposes, you can eliminate HighRes Texture pack ONLY (and SFO), one by one and see if anything changes. The textures will simply revert to HRDLC / Vanilla, unaltering the gameplay / enhancement mods.

 

If you eliminate the VRAM theory, you are left with disk access times and script bloating, I think.

[phazer11]

Here's the performance monitor screenshot up until the last freeze.

[Freyrgjurd]

That's better.

 

1. I can see you use a GPU from a Notebook. Those 3Gb VRAM are dedicated or shared ?

2. In mid test you had a huge drop in VRAM/RAM. Alt + tabbed ? Or maybe just the loading screen for an interior cell.

3. You just crossed the 2Gb VRAM threshold right before the freeze.

4. Many drops in GPU/CPU use, while gaining fps. Prolly the loading screens.

 

My main point: Those 3Gb are dedicated or shared ? If 2Gb dedicated + 1Gb shared, would explain the freezes. Since after passing 2Gb and filling VRAM, you crash. Or 1Gb dedicated + 2Gb shared, wich explains the heavy fps drops you are having.

 

EDIT: You GPU values are all over the board. That's very odd. They should be more linear. If they happend during the stutters, is vram swaping. (Or just loading screens, since the second-half of the test is linear).

What is the model of you notebook ?

[phazer11]

3GB dedicated. My "note"book is an Asus G75VX-BHI7N11 with a Corsair Neutron GTX 240 GB SSD as the main drive with OS and Skyrim. That drop was probably me alt-tabbing and yes those gaining fps while dropping usage are loading screens. Here is the latest one.

 

Edit: Here are the Graphics Specs

NVIDIA System Information 06-11-2013 01-15-54.txt

[Freyrgjurd]

Pretty consistent all around.

 

No apparent causes for stutter or freezes. Just like me. And still, I too get CTD/Freezes, no apparent causes.

Which leads me to believe it's a mod with script errors. Well, that's where I can't help you with. I'm stuck there too. Currently fresh installing using MO.

 

If I find anything, I'll post here.

 

NOTE: Yeah, it's more of a "Fire"book. Pretty awesome *-*

[torminater]

In my experience freezing mid-game (not on loading screen) is a save game/mod related issue in 99% of the time as long as your gaming rig is fairly high-end and you didn't overdo it on the texture load or ini tweaks. As you said in advance: 3 GB RAM-issues usually lead to CTDs not freezes.

[7hr08ik]

OK, i left th epage for an evening and BOOM, 30 new posts.

 

Well quick update, i spent better part of a day and night (3AM) re-installing all my mods and getting everything updated.

I left the pc on overnight running a DDSopt sweep on the full folder at 2048x2048.

Im now just about to run *_n.dds sweep at 1024x1024 on everything. Then i will go through and DDSSopt a few of the mods at lower settings (armor, the big 3, etc)

 

Now to answer some of these questions. Im sorry if i seem blunt but some of these questions are stupid.

 

If it was my save file size then it wouldn`t be happening withing 5 minutes of a new game starting.....which i mentioned a few times i was doing over and over (16 odd times) trying to remove moids and find the culprit. Yes ive added the SKSE tweak to the game. A clean save procedure????? NEW GAME!!!!

For ref....the saves i have been getting are about 7~10mb (but i havnt managed to get past 15 hours fof Gplay in the last few months.

 

But anyways, got everything re-installed, just getting the textures sorted, then get my game fired up.

 

I have made a couple of changes to the load order, and found someone somewhere on the forum saying he swapped out DSI to the medium version and had alot less issues (its an idea) Going to be running armors and the big 3 landscapes at 1024 with half normals, and going to lower BFS, apocalypse, and DSI to 512/256......(The detail of the fire in the ground really doesn`t bother me, but these seem to have affected my freezing before so thinking lower them to lower their impact)

[Aiyen]

Guess I should share this little nugget with the rest of ya who are using MO.

Assuming you have extracted and optimized the vanilla and DLC textures from their BSA´s and have them as loose files at the start of your MO mod list.

Instead of deactivating every texture mod etc. Just move the optimized texture mods down to the bottom of the mod list.

 

That way EVERY texture is reverted back to vanilla, even from mods that have .esp´s as well. (exception is CoT and similar that uses different texture folder structures.)

It makes it a lot easier to test for memory issues due to texture size.

 

Do note that LOD trees will look rather funny since SFO uses a special LOD texture based on version... There might also be a few other textures, but that one is the largest and most noticeable one. I found it does not cause any instability... just looks horrible.

 

Also for testing ingame then you can increase your characters move speed in the console so you can actually get around in the world faster to force some cell swaps etc.

player.setav speedmult # where # is in percent, so 500 is 5x normal speed.

 

Do note that if you set it TOO high then the game will CTD/freeze due to the extreme swapping etc. However the faster you can go with this the more stable your game should logically be! At least memory wise.

 

This is what I normally do when I test and so far it works fine.

[7hr08ik]

Not a bad idea.

 

But for startes, im gonna start with my reproducable freeze, phazer11`s, if get them working then this could be a good way to test overall outdoor performance

[7hr08ik]

Well, i have finally finished re-installing all the mods.

 

Patches remade, all mods DDSopt`d, SUM ran, everything done.

 

Here`s my new mod list

 

 

 

"--" preceding the mod denotes NON-SR mod

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager

+-- SkyRe ReProccer Compatibility Patches - XML update

+-- SkyRe ReProccer Compatibility Patches

+-- Balbor-and-Steelsouls ReProccer Patch

+-- ReProccer

+-- Guard Dialogue Overhaul - SkyRe Compatibility Patch

+-- Etherial Elven Overhaul - Skyre Patch

+-- Dual Sheath Redux - SkyRe Patch

+-- Skill Interface Re-Texture - SkyRe Patch

+-- T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

+-- ASIS

+-- Apocalypse Spell Package

+-- Forgotten Magic Redone

+-- The Lost Wonders of Mzark

+-- Moonpath to Elsweyr 94 BETA

+-- Werewolf Perks Expanded 1_6

+-- Swift Potion Reborn

+-- No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu

+-- Improved Dragon Shouts

+-- Dynamic Difficulty 142

+-- Auto Unequip Helmet

+-- AutoSave Manager

+Werewolf Mastery - Moonlight Tales Compatible Version

+Trade and Barter

+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit

+Non-Essential Children with Inventory Tweaks

+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul

+Lock Overhaul

+-- AmazingFollowerTweaks

+Dual Wield Parrying

+SM Drop Lit Torches

+Convenient Horses

+Better Vampires

+Auto Unequip Ammo

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+Acquisitive Soul Gems

+Achieve That

+-- Sexy Lydia Voiceover

+Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds

+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds

+Thundering shouts

+Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization

+Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds

+Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons

+Smooth blade draw and Sheathe

+SILENT Skyrim - Quieter Interface - No More UI Cartoon Noises

+Realistic wolf howls

+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds

+Improved Combat Sounds

+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul

+DSAMG - Dragonborn Patches

+DSAMG - Dragon Soul Absorb More Glorious

+Clanking Armor

+Better Weapon Swing Sounds

+Better Horse Pain Sounds

+Better Bards

+Better Animal Footsteps

+Activate Fail Noise Removal

+Dual Sheath Redux - Skyrim De-LARP Project

+Dual Sheath Redux - Elemental Staffs

+Dual Sheath Redux - XMPS Sword on Back update

+Dual Sheath Redux

+-- Tribunal Robes by Zairaam Fix v1

+-- Tribunal Robes V2

+-- Remodeled Armor + Substitution

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Weapons

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Armors

+-- Immersive Armors

+-- Immersive Weapons

+-- JaySuS Swords

+-- Crossbow Basic Collection 1 1 2 EN LL

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades

+Wearable Lanterns SMIM Patch

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project

+Dark Nemesis Armor - Ebony Reincarnation

+Improved closefaced helmets + Dawnguard

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows

+Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - UNIQUE

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - WEAPONS

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - ARMORS

+Wearable Lanterns

+Virtus Imperii - Imperial Gear Re-mastered

+Shield_of_Ysgramor

+Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile

+Nightingale Prime HD

+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces

+Jester Outfit ReTexture -Standalone and Craftable-

+Hvergelmirs Shield Retexture - HSR

+Enchantment Effect Replacer

+Elven Weapons for Silence

+Elemental Staffs

+Deadly Serious Shrouded Armor

+Dawnguard Vampire Armors Retexture

+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized

+Cloaks of Skyrim - DawnGuard

+Cloaks of Skyrim

+Better Circlets HQ

+Bandolier - Dawnguard

+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches

+Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement

+-- Unique Dragon Preist Masks

+Animated Weapon Enchants

+Accingite Vos - Shields HQ Retextures

+When Vampires Attack

+Wet and Cold - Ashes

+Wet and Cold

+Run For Your Lives

+Player Headtracking

+No NPC Greetings - Slightly Reduced

+Move_it - Less Wait Time

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS

+Dual Wield Blocking Animations

+Running with a bow 3rd person

+No Spinning Death Animation

+Female BBB and Male Breathing Idles V0_1

+New Animation for magic cast v0-8 - NMM installer

+Immersive Animations

+FNIS Behavior V3 5 -- ALWAYS necessary

+Female Facial Animation

+Bowlegged Jump Animation Fix

+Better Turn Animation Only One Pose + Crossed Swords Fix

+Belt-Fastened Quivers

+Argonian Sneak Tail Twist Fix

+360WalkRunPlus

+XCE - Warpaint and Dirt

+No More Ugly Bronze Shine ver 1_3

+Brows

+Better Makeup

+-- Mature skin texture and body - CBBE

+-- All in One Face - CBBEv3

+-- Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

+Diverse Guards Skyrim

+Cover Khajiits Female

+Better Freckles

+Better Beast Races

+The Eyes Of Beauty Dawnguard Update

+Natural Eyes High Res

+-- Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures

+More Realistic Hair

+Better Vanilla Hair by kebrus v02b

+Beards

+Apachii SkyHair - Natural Retexture

+Apachii SkyHair

+-- Ethereal Elven Overhaul

+-- Dragon Combat Overhaul - Dragonborn

+Vampire Lord Armoured

+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures

+Grimoas Vampire Lord Vanilla Armour

+Fraost Atronach HD

+Deadly Dragons package v6-3-5

+Dawnguard Rewritten Arvak - Convenient Alsvid Patch

+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack

+Automatic Variants - Sounaipr

+Automatic Variants - Insanity Sorrow

+Automatic Variants - Bellyaches

+Automatic Variants

+-- Oblivion Gates

+-- Lydia Young Petite Coed Classic Look

+-- Glowing Ore Veins

+-- Beautiful Whiterun

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects

+Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons

+Realistic Mushrooms + Stew + Dragonborn

+Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE v2 NON GLOW

+TreesHD_Skyrim_variation

+Skyrim Redesigned

+HQ_FOOD-INGREDIENTS_1-6_CUMULATIVE_

+Tobes Highres Textures

+Hectrol CAVES DELUXE HighRes Retex 4K

+The Beauty of Skyrim - Caves and Mines

+Super Realistic Ore Textures

+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors for Dragonborn DLC

+Ruins_Clutter_Improved_v2-5 NMM Installation

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop

+Re-Defined Dungeons

+Realistic Smoke and Embers

+Detailed Rugs

+-- Unknown Enchants

+Windmills Resized

+Whitrun Trellis Texture

+Visible Windows High v1_2

+Vibrant Auroras 1_2

+Ultimate HD Torch HiRes - 2048x2048

+The Paarthurnax Dilemma

+Sweet Mother HD

+Soul Gems Differ - BAIN Wizard

+Snow and Rocks Textures HD - Caves Ultra Quality 4096px

+Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version

+Skyrim Improved Puddles - SIP

+Skyrim Coin Replacer

+Shooting Stars

+Septim HD

+Realistic tundra moss AOF yellow

+Realistic Force

+Realistic Paper DARK

+Realistic Instruments Pack

+Real Ice ALL-IN-ONE Installer by morpheas768

+Real Effect Candle

+Rainbows

+Quality SnowFlakes_Alternative V2

+PondFish Retexture

+Point The Way

+Pilgrims Delight - Zul Do Dov

+HD Keys With Normal Maps

+Not Really HD Display Case

+New Thinner Torch

+Mystery Modders Shrines HD

+Lightning During Thunderstorms - CoT Patch

+Lightning During Thunder Storms

+Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT V3.1 Level 8 Preset

+Lanterns of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard

+Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - MCM Special Edition

+Jeclredured - Standing Stones

+Jeclredured - Spell Tomes

+Intricate Spider Webs

+Improved Weapon Impact Effects

+Hybrids Hires Plant and Herb Retexture

+HQ Skyrim Maps - 2024x2048

+HQ 4k milky way galaxy v2

+HiRes Road Signs - Worn Text

+Higher-Poly Skyrim

+HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res

+HD Ivy - Original Green

+HDSacks - 14TypeBBig

+HDSacks - 14TypeBSmall

+HD Ore And Ingots

+HD Misc

+HD Linens

+Hd Enhanced Terrain and Map snow 2048X2048

+HD Baskets Fixed

+Footprints - Ash Supplemental

+Footprints

+Finer Dust

+Falmer Glow Retexture

+Enhanced Night Skyrim - Medium Stars

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Dragon Glyphs HD - Smooth

+Distant Detail Hearthfire Edition

+Detailed Chests - Washed Out Dirty - 2048

+Distant Decal Fix

+Destructible bottles

+Designs of The Nords - Banners

+Deadly Spell Impacts - Medium

+Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored

+Clams Drop Pearls

+Chimneys For Skyrim RW

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Dragonborn Dawnguard

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Loose

+Bumpy Inn and Shop Signs

+Book Covers Skyrim

+Bloody Dragon Bones 2k

+Blaze Of Eventide

+Better Shadowmarks

+Better Embers

+AOF Farmhouses

+AOF Detailed Mountains

+AIMP - Antz in my Pantz

+101 Bugs HD - LowRes

+Realistic Lighting Overhaul

+Climates Of Tamriel - Sounds

+Climates Of Tamriel - V3-1

+W.A.T.E.R. Compatibility Patch - ENB Particle Fix

+WATER Dragonborn 1 6c

+WATER 1 6c

+ULTIMATE LUSH OVERHAUL

+Skyrim Flora Overhaul

+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim

+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul 1.6 + Dawnguard

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures

+SMIM v1-43

+Better Dynamic Snow 2-20

+No stretching Full

+Categorized Favorites Menu Oni Edition Version 1_8b_Widescreen Version

+Unique Region Names - Dragonborn

+Unique Region Names

+Smaller Cursor

+SkyUI

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard - Werewolf Interface Patch

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard Retexture

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Main

+RaceMenu

+Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem

+Lore-Based Loading Screens

+Lockpicking Interface Retex

+Immersive HUD

+HQ3DMap

+Face to face conversation

+Even Better Quest Objectives

+Dungeon Quest Awareness_1-0

+Double Cursor Fix

+Categorized Favorites Menu v0_1_18

+Borderless Window

+BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions

+Better MessageBox Controls v1_2

+Better Dialogue Controls v1_2

+AutoPV - Auto changes view

+Ancient LoadScreens

+A Quality World Map Installer

+3D Load Screens

+Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge

+Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB

+Nitpick

+Multiple Lycanthropy Regift v1

+Fuz Ro Doh - Silent Voice

+Female Vampires Have Fangs

+Fast travel fimescale fix

+Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap

+Diverse Priests

+Dead Body Collision Fix - With Improved Fireball Spell

+Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition

+Argonian Decapitation Fix

+Appropriately Attired Jarls

+Ancient Nord Armor Fix

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

+Unofficial Skyrim Patch

+HRDLC3 Opt

+HRDLC2 Opt

+HRDLC1 Opt

+Dragonborn Opt

+Hearthfires Opt

+Dawnguard Opt

+Vanilla Opt

+Skyrim Script Extender

 

 

 

This is what i`ve done with my mods

 

 

All textures DDSopt`d at 2048x2048 with normals ran at

 

1024x1024

 

apart from the following:-

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Custom Sized (Default Settings) used 100% and 50% for normals in DDSopt

 

101 Bugs - 256x256

AIMP - 256x1024

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MODS TO DO AT 1024 + 512

 

AV Packages

Skyrim immersive creatures

SkyTEST

Apachii Aky Hair

Apachii Sky Hair Retexture

Elven Weapons For Silence

aMidianBorn

Immersive Armors

Immersive Weapons

JaySuS Swords

Crossbows Basic Collection

Serious HD

Skyrim HD 2K

Skyrim Realistic Overhaul

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MODS TO DO AT 512 + 256

 

Burn Freeze Shock Effects

Apocalypse

Deadly Spell Impacts

Glowing Ore Veins

 

 

 

Now time to run through the game, and test the 2 known freeze points

 

 

Known freezes:

 

1. Start in whiterun

2. Ride horse along roads to falkreath jail

3. Talk to the prisoner and get the ring

4. On foot, head out to the bridge just outside of town take the guards out with bow/crossbow

5. Kill white stag (continue with quest if poss, never got to the cave)

 

 

1. Using alternate start - property - Vlindrel Hall

2. Buy a horse - outside Markarth.

3. Ride left, along the river out from the stables.

4. Kill the forsworn at kolskegar mine and keep on going past Blind Cliff Cave and towards Karthwasten

5. Keep going past Karthwasten, there will be a bridge between there and Broken Tower Redoubt

 

 

[7hr08ik]

Well, good and bad news...

 

My mod install folder is down to 21Gb (WOW)

My in game RAM usage peaked at 2.1Gb, VRAM peaked at 1.8Gb

 

I loaded up the game and started with my Hircines quest freeze. Fresh game, left all the MCM mod settings on default, and i managed to get all the way through the quest and run back to whiterun......Eureka you might think......but no...

 

I started on phazer11`s markarth through Broken Tower Redoubt freeze. unfortunately as soon as i got to the other side of the bridge, the game froze. So now im going to have to start removing mods again and figuring out where the problem is.

[7hr08ik]

On a side note.....

 

I think we should start gathering up reproduceable freeze points....So far we have 2, if i didnt know about Broken Tower Redoubt freeze i would have thought my game was fine. and played through until i hit a freeze and then teddy would have left the cot!!!!

 

So, this far we have the following

 

 

Known freezes:

 

Hircines Freeze

1. Start in whiterun

2. Ride horse along roads to falkreath jail

3. Talk to the prisoner and get the ring

4. On foot, head out to the bridge just outside of town take the guards out with bow/crossbow

5. Kill white stag

 

Broken Tower Freeze

1. Using alternate start - property - Vlindrel Hall

2. Buy a horse - outside Markarth.

3. Ride left, along the river out from the stables.

4. Kill the forsworn at kolskegar mine and keep on going past Blind Cliff Cave and towards Karthwasten

5. Keep going past Karthwasten, there will be a bridge between there and Broken Tower Redoubt. Try and cross it and continue along the road

 

 

 

If anyone has anymore freeze points please let us know so wwe can add them to the list, and compile some sort of Stability Freeze Test list or something

[Freyrgjurd]

Recommend disabling environment mods first, like WATER.

 

Going to see if I can reproduce that on my test bed.

 

Tested it. No problems. Full Baseline STEP used.

 

From step 2 onwards. Didn't use Alternate Start. Used coc qasmoke at main menu, waited for all mods to load, coc MarkarthExterior10, bought the horse and so on.