Bad looking shrubs/thickets after lod generation

[xbk123]

Some tips please how to fix that - photo enclosed. Never had problem like that. Using cathedral 3d pine shrubs but same result without it. Checked those shrubs with xedit, records not altered by anything else than skyrim.esm. Already tried running texgen/dyndolod like 4 times with different settings and always the same result.

[sheson]

Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD logs and debug logs to upload when making posts.

Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make useful screenshots with more informative console.

https://dyndolod.info/Generation-Instructions#Prerequisites
Do not install any 3rd party tree LOD billboards. Use TexGen to generate all desired LOD billboards.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/Tree-Grass-LOD-Billboards#3rd-Party-LOD-Billboards
Do not install 3rd party LOD billboards. Use TexGen to generate them.
All LOD billboards files are in ..\Textures\Terrain\LODGen\*.*.

That means, if a mod contains them, hide/remove those billboards.

https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen#Tree-Grass-LOD-Billboards
https://dyndolod.info/Help/TexGen-Configuration#Tree-Grass-LOD-Billboards

By default TexGen does not generate billboards for small shrubs and bushes.

[xbk123]

Hi. Thanks. Checked everything, whole mod list. No third party lods. Tought I had it because I found NoTWL mod in my list with hidden plugin but there were some loose files in addition to main bsa. But no, thats not it becuse I disabled it and the same result after another lod generation. Here are my logs, can you check them? Thanks.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/slxjwk6huq7rvwtqqo8g8/logs.rar?rlkey=o3g80bw38oilyk08ff11yaxie&dl=0

click download button next to log in button to download archive because looks like those files are too big to be displayed directly on the site

Edited October 27, 2023 by xbk123

[sheson]

9 hours ago, xbk123 said:

Hi. Thanks. Checked everything, whole mod list. No third party lods. Tought I had it because I found NoTWL mod in my list with hidden plugin but there were some loose files in addition to main bsa. But no, thats not it becuse I disabled it and the same result after another lod generation. Here are my logs, can you check them? Thanks.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/slxjwk6huq7rvwtqqo8g8/logs.rar?rlkey=o3g80bw38oilyk08ff11yaxie&dl=0

click download button next to log in button to download archive because looks like those files are too big to be displayed directly on the site

Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make a useful screenshots of a full model of a shrub with such LODs with more informative console.

[xbk123]

@Fixed

It was HD Lods mod, bsa packed with esp. Thanks.

[sheson]

https://dyndolod.info/Mods/Useful-3rd-Party-Mods
HD LODs Textures SE - install the DynDOLOD version. Overwrite any textures from DynDOLOD Resources SE but not the textures generated by TexGen. Adjust Max tile size on advanced options to match the downloaded resolution or use it to shrink higher resolution back down to lower resolution automatically while the atlas is created. Do not install / remove any tree LOD billboards. Use TexGen to generate all desired billboards.

Install the DynDOLOD version as explained, so the textures and billboards are loose files.

[Soulmancer]

Those Tundra bushes are god awful no matter what mesh+texture you're using.  I installed a mod that blanks the full model meshes so they are removed in game though I am still having the bill boards added.  I should just set a rule for all shrubs and bushes? none for all levels and unchanged?  I image no shrubs and bushes have anything other than billboards?

 

 

 

[sheson]

12 hours ago, Soulmancer said:

Those Tundra bushes are god awful no matter what mesh+texture you're using.  I installed a mod that blanks the full model meshes so they are removed in game though I am still having the bill boards added.  I should just set a rule for all shrubs and bushes? none for all levels and unchanged?  I image no shrubs and bushes have anything other than billboards?

Read https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#Post-Logs which TexGen and DynDOLOD log and debug log to upload when making posts.

See https://dyndolod.info/Official-DynDOLOD-Support-Forum#In-Game-Screenshots how to make a useful screenshot of an affected full model with more informative console and a close up of the LOD model.

https://dyndolod.info/Installation-Instructions
Do not install any 3rd party tree LOD billboards. Use TexGen to generate all desired LOD billboards.

Follow https://dyndolod.info/Generation-Instructions

[Soulmancer]

Wasn't so much a question to solve an issue, I just didn't want them to have lods at all. 

Primary cause though was custom texgen/dyndolod rules added DynDOLOD The Little Things were conflicting with my personal Dyndolod preset rules.  In my experience, Texgen bushes and shrubs billboards never look good regardless of meshes/textures installed... they are small enough objects to not really notice when they don't have lods, but minor bush/shrub billboards really standout when alongside 3d hybrid/hd trees in the scene.

My preferred solution is to just not have lods for em  ... unless someone makes proper lod meshes for them!

[sheson]

7 hours ago, Soulmancer said:

Wasn't so much a question to solve an issue, I just didn't want them to have lods at all. 

Primary cause though was custom texgen/dyndolod rules added DynDOLOD The Little Things were conflicting with my personal Dyndolod preset rules.  In my experience, Texgen bushes and shrubs billboards never look good regardless of meshes/textures installed... they are small enough objects to not really notice when they don't have lods, but minor bush/shrub billboards really standout when alongside 3d hybrid/hd trees in the scene.

My preferred solution is to just not have lods for em  ... unless someone makes proper lod meshes for them!

Requested logs were not provided.

By default TexGen does not generate billboard textures for bushes and shrubs, so by default DynDOLOD does not generate LOD for them.

If you manually force billboard generation for shrubs and bushes with TexGen but the full models are blank, TexGen should still not generate any billboards because all pixels of the billboard textures would be transparent. Even if you somehow managed to generate fully transparent billboard textures, transparent LOD would still not be visible.