Out of VRAM?

Roflcat · February 23, 2013

Hey all,

Let me first say that I'm a huge fan of STEP! Â :DÂ I got into it at the 2.2.0 release. Â I did a fresh install for the 2.2.1 version and everything went very smoothly. Â However usually after ~1hr of play some of the textures in my game turn blue/purple or black, and eventually it CTDs. Normally I would assume I have too many high-res textures loaded (I went all 2048x), but is that really the case? Â I don't get frequent stuttering. Â Why does the corruption only build up over time? Â Doesn't Skyrim unload resources it doesn't need anymore? Â Why didn't this happen on my 2.2.0 based installation? Â What can I do to troubleshoot the issue? Â

Here is my setup and other info:

PC specs:

-win 7 64-bit

-i5-3970k @4.2Ghz

-8GB Ram (can't remember the specs of this sorry)

-Gigabyte GTX 670 OC'ed to some degree

-p8z77-v pro mobo

-750W corsair power supply

-The game is running on a HDD but my OS is running on an SSD

Game Specs:

-1920x1080 @ ultra all draw distances max no FXAA no AA no AF

-filtering LOD bias set to clamp in NVcontrol panel, all other settings default (texture filtering is high quality globally)

-installed S.T.E.P. version 2.2.1 from a clean game + some other mods not included in STEP (see list below), used texture pack combiner + 90% of optional texture mods supported by the combiner, always choosing up to 2048x where possible

-INI is default + S.T.E.P. tweaks

-Running Phinix ENB which uses an SMAA hook and handles AF

Mod list:

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Realistic Lighting, non-leveled items and the divine punishment mod are disabled everything else is enabled.

torminater · February 23, 2013

This is really interesting since I'm experiencing the exact same thing with my gaming rig. I cannot tell you what exactly the problem is, but would you mind posting your system specs here?

I suspect that somehow textures get lost when moved from System RAM to VRAM and that causes the artifacts...

Roflcat · February 23, 2013

No problem:

win 7 64-bit

i5-3970k @4.2Ghz

8GB Ram (can't remember the specs of this sorry)

Gigabyte GTX 670 OC'ed to some degree

p8z77-v pro mobo

750W corsair power supply

The game is running on a HDD but my OS is running on an SSD

Should also add I used the Texture Pack Combiner to do most of my textures. Won't be able to check on this thread for several hours so I'll be back soon.

Besidilo · February 23, 2013

Why does nobody EVER post the screen resolution and AA method used when creating these threads?

torminater · February 23, 2013

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Why does nobody EVER post the screen resolution and AA method used when creating these threads?

That would be a great idea to add to this forum:

Anybody who posts an issue has to include in the OP:

-> rig specs

-> STEP version & extra mods

-> screen resolution

-> driver settings

-> Skyrim settings (Medium/High/Ultra plus user tweaks that affect performance)

-> general mod resolution options (always highest, mixture of 1k & 2k only 1k)

-> installing method

If this information isn't given -> no help can be expexted.

Farlo · February 23, 2013

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Why does nobody EVER post the screen resolution and AA method used when creating these threads?
That would be a great idea to add to this forum:
Anybody who posts an issue has to include in the OP:
-> rig specs
-> STEP version & extra mods
-> screen resolution
-> driver settings
-> Skyrim settings (Medium/High/Ultra plus user tweaks that affect performance)
-> general mod resolution options (always highest, mixture of 1k & 2k only 1k)
-> installing method

If this information isn't given -> no help can be expexted.

I've just added this as a header to the Support forum, let me know if I missed anything.

torminater · February 23, 2013

Great! I'll try to think of something to add...

Thc002 · February 23, 2013

I can confirm that Skyrim Starts crashing for me, the moment it hits 3gb vram usage.

Roflcat · February 23, 2013

Sorry about the lack of info, I will update the OP with all my specs and as much information as I can provide.

NiennaNenmacil · February 25, 2013

I have the exact same issue. After a while I get the missing textures/meshes popping up, usually when I load an interior. Reloading the game brings them back, but sure enough the problem resurfaces eventually.

torminater · February 25, 2013

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I have the exact same issue. After a while I get the missing textures/meshes popping up, usually when I load an interior. Reloading the game brings them back, but sure enough the problem resurfaces eventually.

Please tell us your:

System Specs - Including model and clock rate of the CPU and GPU, whether you use an HDD or SSD, and screen resolution
Graphics driver version and settings
Skyrim launcher settings
STEP version and any additional mods used
Texture/quality resolution options - "highest available", "only 1k", etc
Installation method - Wrye Bash, Mod Organizer, NMM, or manual

Braddertt · February 25, 2013

Hey there. I've had this problem crop up a number of times in my current playthrough.

System Specs
GPU: Nvidia GTX 570 with 2.5GB VRAM
CPU: Intel i7-3770k @ 3.5GHz
RAM: 12GB DDR3 @ 660 MHz
MOBO: Asrock Z77 Extreme6
PSU: 860 watt Corsair
Skyrim is installed on an SSD
Graphics driver version and settings - 314.07 (Latest). Default factory settings except for some colour balancing.
Skyrim launcher settings - Maxed with shadows on high and AA on 4x, ini settings on shadows unchanged from what the launcher generated
STEP version and any additional mods used - STEP v2.2.1 with SkyRe (Races module and [Encounter Zones?] disabled), Frostfall, RCRN, and No Kill Moves
Texture/quality resolution options - 2048x
Installation method - Mod Organizer

From starting a new character I can usually get to Riverwood without any purple/black textures. I've gone as far as Bleak Falls Barrow to as short as the 3 Standing Stones before I notice purple/black textures and the soon inevitable crash. The 3 standing stones I noticed some purple moss. I examined it for about 5 seconds and then I crashed. The one in which I reached Bleak Falls Barrow, once the interior was loaded, a large amount of the ground was black, as was a lot of armor on the dead bandits in the initial room. I opened my inventory and a lot of the models of clothing and armor were purple. Then I crashed. Quite bizarre.

Once purple textures, black textures and crashes started cropping up I reinstalled STEP according to Baseline and didn't have the problem. It's really unfortunate since I'm fairly sure my box can handle 2048x with only a bit of stuttering while loading worldspaces but that doesn't seem to be the case. With the 2048x setup I get a consistent 60FPS throughout the entire game with the exception of swamp areas around Morthal which drop to about 45-50.

I've decided to try an installation with Wrye Bash with my 2048x settings. I doubt it will change much, however I will get back to you with results and it will be good practice to familiarize myself with Wrye Bash.

NiennaNenmacil · February 25, 2013

My apologies for not providing information. I did read the thread, but I didn't have time when I posted to provide my specs, and I hoped there would be some additional discussion based on the OP's information.Â

OS: Windows 7 64-bit

Processor: Intel i5-3570k @ 3.4GHz

RAM: 8GbGPU: AMD Radeon HD 7800 (1.7 Gb VRAM)

Resolution: 1920x1080

And Skyrim is installed on my SSD, as well as my OS

Driver Version 9.12.0 with default settings. I applied the S.T.E.P. recommendations as best I could, but there were settings I couldn't seem to find. AA method is multisampling, samples is 4x.
Skyrim launcher settings are set to Ultra

I have Extreme S.T.E.P. 2.2.1 installed excluding these mods:

Fast Travel Timescale Fix

Fuz Ro D'oh

Keyboard Tweaks

Lockpicking Interface

No Boring Sleep Wait Menu

No Menu Loading Smoke

Windmills Resized

Better Freckles

Birds & Flocks

Female Vampires Have Fangs

Improved Footwraps

New Children

Better Turn Animation + Fix Crossed Swords and Turn with Leg Move

Get Snowy

Skyrim Performance Plus

Activate Fail Noise Removal

Dark Brotherhood to Misc

Death Cam

Drop Lot Torches

Dynamic Fires

Non Essential Children

More Interactive Items

Move It Dammit

Skyrim Coin Replacer

I have these mods installed in addition:

Texture Pack Combiner (Used this instead of the individual graphic mods in STEP)

Rain and Snow Clipping

Bigger Trees (Skyrim & Riften)

Morning Fogs

Wet and Cold

Climates of Tamriel

Ethereal Elven Overhaul

Inhabitants of Skyrim Character Presets

UNP Body Replacement

Coverwomen

Geonox HighRes Dirtmaps

Cloaks of Skyrim

Winter is Coming

Immersive Armors + Immersive Armors for NPCs

Bandolier

Immersive Weapons

Menu Shouts in Dragon and English

Achieve That!

Atlas Map Markers

Silent Killer

Underwater SFX Fix

Improved Reverb

Remove Mirmulnir Audio

Extensible Follower Framework

Diverse Priests

Immersive Patrols

Brynjolf Dialogue Fix

Unlimited Bookshelves

Beast Skeletons

Harvest Overhaul

Unread Books Glow

Training Dummies and Archery Targets

Craftable Cloud Storage

SkyVoice? (Plugin is called Way of the Voice, mod name is different. It's a voice command shout mod)

Frostfall

Ishs Souls to Perks

Economics of Skyrim

Realistic Room Rental Enhanced

Become a Bard

Realistic Needs and Diseases

Realistic Humanoid Speed

Edit: I am also running Project ENB

When choosing textures I always chose the highest resolution, and I used Wrye Bash to install everything.

I can play for anywhere between about 45min to 1h20min without experiencing issues. After ~1hr my game will either crash, or I will start seeing the purple/black textures and then crash soon after. The textures tend to appear on items in inventories and on NPCs.

I would also like to note that I am testing out this memory leak fixÂ https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32363

It hasn't appeared to have affected my stability.

I hope it's not a case of having too many HD textures. The game looks so great, and still runs really well for the hour or so that it can.

torminater · February 25, 2013

Really interesting:

Skyrim is almost in all of the cases installed on a SSD. At least somewhere is an SSD directly involved...

Maybe a sign of data leaks?

NiennaNenmacil · February 25, 2013

I previously had my Skyrim installed on my HDD, and I moved it to my SSD using Steam Mover. I've since had numerous problems with programs (including Steam) trying to figure out where my game or my mods were installed, so I've just now moved it back.

I've had this missing textures problem regardless of where my game was installed. Moving it to my SSD was an attempt at gaining more stability.

Edit: This isn't to say you aren't right, just trying to provide more info.

MontyMM · February 25, 2013

I'd be very surprised indeed if SSDs were to blame. Is everyone also using Mod Organizer? I'd be curious to know whether switching to Wrye Bash improves this.

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